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FLASH on NEXUS ONE looks awesome and works perfectly

Shenaniganz08 said:
yeah lets sue everyone so that phone's are crippled by lawsuits !

:rolleyes:

all these lawsuits betwen nokia, apple, palm, etc means that if there is a good idea on one phone, it will never be available on another platform

I can't believe you think that's a good thing
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Of course that's a good thing. If intellectual patents can't be protected, whoever spends the most on R&D are suckers. It hinders innovation, it doesn't help it.

If we reward innovation, we will have better products. Ideas can't be patented, only the implementation of those ideas. There's nothing stopping Android from coming up with BETTER ways to do everything the iPhone OS does. That's exactly what they should do, instead of just ripping off the iPhone's UI patents.
 
NT1440 said:
No offense, but do you understand anything about software? 3.0 brought a ton of new functionality to users, especially via apps.
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LOL, the PNS is total trash for a number of reasons and The in-app purchase function was also bungled since it still didn't allow for properly paid software upgrades which forced Atebits to charge a full upgrade to Tweetie 2.0. The new iPod scrubbing controls I'm sure were very rarely used and virtually no one uses the new functionality via the dock connector.

About the only truly useful feature in 3.0 has been spotlight. Even with that they could have added much more features. The Pre was doing many more interesting things in that regard.

Also look at what's happene since then. The iPhone has received no real major feature upgrade while there have been a slew of updates for Android putting it, featurewise, ahead of the iPhone.
 
Don't want Flash.
Not on my Mac (get ClickToFlash, it's heaven).
Definitely don't want Flash on iPhone.
It just annoys me.
And there are better ways to play videos on the internet.

Nexus One can have all the Flash it wants. iPhone integrates and syncs with my Mac the way I like and that's good enough for me.

As long as the Nexus One causes Apple to raise their game and we get a better iPhone, IT'S ALL GOOD.

Jobs spent a week explaining to print publishers -face-to-face- (so they knew he was serious) that Flash will NEVER be on iPad and not to build Flash products for iPad. Presumably he's hoping customer pressure will cause Adobe to make an iPad compatible solution. It's a big dream, but I like the way Jobs is thinking at the moment. And if Adobe folds, again, IT'S ALL GOOD.

I'm not expecting Flash on any Apple mobile products ever. Don't get your hopes up.
 
I don't care about the Nexus because there's no AT&T 3G version. There IS, however, a new Motorola Android phone from AT&T itself called Backflip. It's small and runs Android 1.5 at the moment but it's from AT&T, it's getting great reviews, it does what it's meant to do very well and it's the first in a small line of Android phones AT&T is due to release in the first half of the year. Finally something worth running Flash.

Per Flash...this thread is pretty much identical to the threads about GPS, MMS, Cut/Copy/Paste and whatever else where all those forward thinking types lined up and stated that since THEY didn't see a use for it, it sucks and NO ONE needs it. Ever. Period. Lo and behold the iPhone starts supporting these things and...well, obviously none of them actually learned a damn thing. Too bad. The only real point to this thread is for a chuckle and it has certainly served that purpose!

That reminds me, I use my iPhone almost every day for turn-by-turn voice directions and it works great! Yeah man, some of you were right, that feature totally sucks! No wonder you're the all knowing oracles of all things Apple now and forever! :rolleyes:
 
Only problem is the N1 doesn't fully work on AT&T and I will not go back to Verizon also I hat the fact that VZ puts their dumb boot screen on all their phones, to me it make me think about buying a really expensive phone and how they will dumb it up with that slow stupid boot screen. I will wait and see if it hits AT&T in 2010, if I decide not to go with the new iPhone.
 
There has been a FCC filing for a AT&T 3G Nexus One, probably be out before year's end I imagine.
 
str1f3 said:
LOL, the PNS is total trash for a number of reasons and The in-app purchase function was also bungled since it still didn't allow for properly paid software upgrades which forced Atebits to charge a full upgrade to Tweetie 2.0. The new iPod scrubbing controls I'm sure were very rarely used and virtually no one uses the new functionality via the dock connector.

About the only truly useful feature in 3.0 has been spotlight. Even with that they could have added much more features. The Pre was doing many more interesting things in that regard.

Also look at what's happene since then. The iPhone has received no real major feature upgrade while there have been a slew of updates for Android putting it, featurewise, ahead of the iPhone.
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There were thousands of upgrades to the API's, just because there isn't some new shiny thing slapping you in the face does not mean 3.0 didn't bring new opportunities to the platform.
 
Wicked1 said:
...also I hat the fact that VZ puts their dumb boot screen on all their phones, to me it make me think about buying a really expensive phone and how they will dumb it up with that slow stupid boot screen.
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New to cellphones? I've heard the same complaint about TMobile and ATT.

Every carrier puts their own custom boot images on most of their phones.

It doesn't slow down the boot by any meaningful amount, since it's just showing frames at each boot code section.

The whole idea is so that you can see something is happening.
 
This entire thread is a sham
All the anti-apple comments were removed because apparently, its OK to be biased and in denial on this forum, as long as its Pro-apple
( and apparently OCD is OK as long as its apple related as well :/ )

Flash runs perfectly on my computer, those people claiming that as an excuse for not wanting flash on their iPhones, need to either fix or upgrade their systems

Buggy Flash is better than no flash support at all, but yeah I guess this post will be deleted too for not being apple loving

It's funny how one of the top complaints about the iPhone is that it doesn't support flash, and when a competitor comes out that does support flash, suddenly all the avid fans come out of the woodwork claiming they don't want the feature
 
anjinhamarota said:
Is not about policing, it's just that reading a post like yours with absolutely no punctuation requires a lot more effort on our part to understand what you're trying to say. Most people try to make their posts legible and easy to understand, a little effort on everyone's part goes a long way.
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One poster's demonstration of text to speech without punctuation is not a big deal. This is just nitpicking or more like sour grapes.
 
Shenaniganz08 said:
This entire thread is a sham
All the anti-apple comments were removed because apparently, its OK to be biased and in denial on this forum, as long as its Pro-apple
( and apparently OCD is OK as long as its apple related as well :/ )
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Don't know why you say that

Shenaniganz08 said:
Flash runs perfectly on my computer, those people claiming that as an excuse for not wanting flash on their iPhones, need to either fix or upgrade their system
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No comment

Shenaniganz08 said:
Buggy Flash is better than no flash support at all, but yeah I guess this post will be deleted too for not being apple loving
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Your not helping the flash cause here. There is no good excuse for buggy software, be it on a Mac, PC or Iphone. No WinPC fanboy, Mac fanboy wants to run buggy software.

Shenaniganz08 said:
It's funny how one of the top complaints about the iPhone is that it doesn't support flash, and when a competitor comes out that does support flash, suddenly all the avid fans come out of the woodwork claiming they don't want the feature
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This is true of any fans of a particular thing. Yes it is funny, it's human nature.
 
NT1440 said:
There were thousands of upgrades to the API's, just because there isn't some new shiny thing slapping you in the face does not mean 3.0 didn't bring new opportunities to the platform.
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Then you totally missed the point of the of my original post. I am talking about the improvements/features on user end. I don't develop apps for the iPhone so I could care less about new APIs or APIs that were once private that now is public.
 
Shenaniganz08 said:
It's funny how one of the top complaints about the iPhone is that it doesn't support flash, and when a competitor comes out that does support flash, suddenly all the avid fans come out of the woodwork claiming they don't want the feature
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couldn't agree with u MORE
THAT'S soo true
 
I think I'll switch to the Nexus so I can see all those advertisements :rolleyes:

The only use for Flash in my world is HULU.

NYT, USAToday, & Yahoo! News all have dedicated apps that deliver video and the news. I don't need it to slow down and heat up my mobile device by putting trash flash on it.

Apple is doing the right thing by NOT allowing one of the most popular phones in the world to be held back by Flash. Something new that doesn't overheat and slow down my phone is welcome.

Keep holding out Apple...
 
Gurtz said:
Around 3:15 and 3:55 there was definitely lag, just saying
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Well from 0:00 to infinity my iPhone lags. Takes about 10-20 seconds to open sms. A full minute to start up/shut down, sometimes two. More than half the time I press the home button it doesnt do the nice animation, the home screen just "appears". Oh, and there is no flash, so the internet is crippled.

Sorry for attacking lol, I do realize you were just saying.
 
Shenaniganz08 said:
This entire thread is a sham
All the anti-apple comments were removed because apparently, its OK to be biased and in denial on this forum, as long as its Pro-apple
( and apparently OCD is OK as long as its apple related as well :/ )

Flash runs perfectly on my computer, those people claiming that as an excuse for not wanting flash on their iPhones, need to either fix or upgrade their systems

Buggy Flash is better than no flash support at all, but yeah I guess this post will be deleted too for not being apple loving

It's funny how one of the top complaints about the iPhone is that it doesn't support flash, and when a competitor comes out that does support flash, suddenly all the avid fans come out of the woodwork claiming they don't want the feature
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I agree^^

Just like when everyone didnt want cut/paste or MMS

This video pretty sums of most of this thread haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
 
archipellago said:
lol... incorrect.

anyway..

HP/MS had a touchscreen pda/phone in 1998/1999.

Apple don't innovate, they refine exisiting ideas.


the Nexus One is a really great device.
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if by 'touchscreen' you mean 'stylus' and by 'phone' you mean device larger than a shoe, then yes, they did. I had one, it was an ipaq with a cell radio sleeve... it was horrible. I also had one of the palm phones... also large... also mostly useless.

not disagreeing with your sentiment, I just still have angst about those nightmarish devices. The only device I had that was close to what we have today was a cell radio (data only) palm addon.
 
Deadman64 said:
I agree^^

Just like when everyone didnt want cut/paste or MMS

This video pretty sums of most of this thread haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
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flash is a flaming piece of **** used by 12 year old girls to play my little pony games and by advertisers to annoy the living **** out of people. The 'mobile flash' is so hosed down that content has to be specifically made for it. Jobs was right to have the balls to say 'k done, you've had 10 years to make flash not suck'.

Android is decent.. I have one as well as a 3GS (I develop for both), so it's not really an apple vs whoever thing for me...

but flash? blows dog... it's bloated, slow, buggy, insecure, annoying and adobe has already proven that they don't really care about changing it.

I turned flash off around 6 years ago, never looked back.
 
str1f3 said:
Then you totally missed the point of the of my original post. I am talking about the improvements/features on user end. I don't develop apps for the iPhone so I could care less about new APIs or APIs that were once private that now is public.
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Don't you use apps? The new APIs opened up a lot of new functionality for apps.

Chevenowner said:
couldn't agree with u MORE
THAT'S soo true
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Actually no, the people that didn't want flash before probably don't want it now, and the people that do want flash probably always wanted it.

Deadman64 said:
I agree^^

Just like when everyone didnt want cut/paste or MMS

This video pretty sums of most of this thread haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
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Are you serious? The lack of copy and paste and MMS was ALWAYS one of the biggest complaints about the iPhone, just because a few people (the minority) said they didn't want it doesn't mean they're the same that were happy when those features were added, most likely they didn't care.
 
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