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For those who think Apple is too expensive
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It really just depends on which mac you get. Some are on par, some are more, expensive and some are less. Case in point, right now the Macbooks are more expensive than many of their PC counterparts by $100-$400. Of course, it is Apples to Oranges because of OS X and most PCs being 15" at that price but nevertheless the low-end-Macbook is more expensive than its PC counterparts.
I would probably still pay the Apple tax but the Rev A problems (discoloration,random shutdown etc.) have me worried that I will be paying extra for something that I will have to send in for repair in a month because I am typically pretty hard on my computers (had two hard drives fail on my 12" Powerbook). So now, I am waiting for Rev B which will hopefully have many of these problems ironed out or I will have to get a PC if that takes too long....
I would probably still pay the Apple tax but the Rev A problems (discoloration,random shutdown etc.) have me worried that I will be paying extra for something that I will have to send in for repair in a month because I am typically pretty hard on my computers (had two hard drives fail on my 12" Powerbook). So now, I am waiting for Rev B which will hopefully have many of these problems ironed out or I will have to get a PC if that takes too long....
iDavidLeeRoth said:
I hope it is sooner than that...I don't know if I can wait that long. I need it for school...
I live in America's wang too! School hasn't started fro you yet? There is a crapload of traffic at schools nowadays.
i wouldn't consider apple too expensive because of what you get.
1.osx 10.4 doesn't have 114000 known viruses
2.you can have both windows and osx on same machine due to bootcamp
3.the pc equivalent is the same price or even more expensive.
just buy a mac
1.osx 10.4 doesn't have 114000 known viruses
2.you can have both windows and osx on same machine due to bootcamp
3.the pc equivalent is the same price or even more expensive.
just buy a mac
iDavidLeeRoth said:
Yeah, school already started but I have just been using the labs (shudder) until I decide what I want...
macman2790 said:
1. That is true, but people on this board make out XP to be alot worse than it is. In the last couple of years M$ has done a pretty good job of patching it up...Also, if you understand how to setup a firewall (hardware and software), get a couple of spyware checkers, and a good anti-virus program you are probably Ok.
2. This is a good point and iLife alone makes OSX much more useful over Windows.
3. As I said above, it depends on the model you pick...iMac and Mac Pro, Yes! Macbook or Macbook Pro not so much....
Enough flaming already !
I am an IT consultant (and a photographer) - I use both platforms and both have their advantages / disadvantages. With the power of CPUs and GPUs these days, who cares which machine runs faster, I use a G4 Powerbook on a regular basis for my photography business and other than Hard Drive space issues, it is still more than fast enough for all of my needs. My next purchase will be a 23" iMac (if rumours can be believed) and I am sure it will give me years of service. Unless you are running high-end games, the differences between machines is negligible !!!!!
suneohair said:
I am an IT consultant (and a photographer) - I use both platforms and both have their advantages / disadvantages. With the power of CPUs and GPUs these days, who cares which machine runs faster, I use a G4 Powerbook on a regular basis for my photography business and other than Hard Drive space issues, it is still more than fast enough for all of my needs. My next purchase will be a 23" iMac (if rumours can be believed) and I am sure it will give me years of service. Unless you are running high-end games, the differences between machines is negligible !!!!!
Scarlet Fever said:
But the Mac cannot run Solaris. I like Solaris.
It seems like for the complete gig, I would need a Mac and a Sun AMD box.
iDavidLeeRoth said:
It is slightly overpriced, but ignoring that it has some build quality issues. I may be overblowing these but I don't want to have to send mine back 2 or 3 times to get it to stop randomly shutting down or replace the palm rest because it turned yellow. I have read estimates that say that anywhere between 1% to 20% of Macbooks have these problems but nobody really knows. I would say that those who have had to send theirs in for repair most likely wouldn't say that they are a good value.
ajbrehm said:
Halarious! What are you an Oracle programmer?
Haha what if I want to use Yellowdog? Does that mean I have to go back to PPC Macs?
davegoody said:
I agree with you here but it is still frustrating concerning the Macbook that a $200 less expensive PC laptop has a DVD burner and sometimes a dedicated graphics chip and larger hard drive.
GFLPraxis said:
The Dell has expandable PCIe slots... a feature you have to pay in excess of $2000 to get for the Mac "PRO" because in the mindset of Apple's marketoids you got to be a professional to even want to upgrade your computer!
The consumer i Computers are for kids only, not professionals! No, you can't use a non pro computer to do documents, work processing is a professional activity that generates revenue for you!
Apple's market segmentation sometimes annoys me. And to the OP, well, I don't really care much about your comparison since the Dell is in some ways better than the iMac, but what I do know is a friend's sister was after a laptop recently, so I got my friend to recommend her a Mac, after she did her own shopping she settled for a Samsung PC laptop. Not too sure about the exact specs, but it came with Core Duo and a 256mb graphics chip... that for $2000 (well local currency), to put that into perspective the 2Ghz CD Macbook costs $2600 and the MBP with the 256MB x1600Pro card (nothing fantastic I got to add) costs a whopping $3900.
Oh, I neglected to say the Samsung came with a nice magnesium case too, none of the bullcrap glossy plastic or easy dentable aluminium ****.
Macs cheap? Dream on.
We Mac users may be getting fleeced, but that's fine, it is our choice to be able to use MacOS. But do not ever, for a single moment, try to delude yourself that Macs are actually cheaper than their PC counterparts, it makes you way bigger an idiot that just any other Mac user.
It CAN (or WILL run Solaris)
As the Mac can run Windows, it is, in theory possible to run Solaris too (the Intel version). You may not be able to do it yet, directly but you will, mark my words ! - People have managed to get Vista running via bootcamp so Linux, Solaris etc should follow
ajbrehm said:
As the Mac can run Windows, it is, in theory possible to run Solaris too (the Intel version). You may not be able to do it yet, directly but you will, mark my words ! - People have managed to get Vista running via bootcamp so Linux, Solaris etc should follow
dejo said:The cheap keyboard you got with that cheap PC doesn't appear to be working properly. It's mixing up the letters.
I was typing on a macbook :| -- and it was 2 in the morning.
If you want to word process, for $400 you can get a very decent new DELL for internet surfing and word. Believe me i know Mac's are better you don't need to tell me that. But the bottom line is untill You can get a new mac for $400, mac will never be able to dethrone dell.
dejo said:
and whats the solution on Mac? pay another 150 for Word? sure iWork is like 70, but it still costs money -- and doesn't come with some essential things like a spreadsheat prog.
besides; if you have half a brain; openoffice works fine! and is free.
Neither does Word.ljump12 said:
True. You mighta wanted to reference OpenOffice instead of Word in the first place.ljump12 said:
You can limp along continually dealing with cheap crap or buy something that
works.
I know I can drive 36 miles each way to work in a $500.00 used Geo,
but life is too short for me to suffer that way.
My G5 has been running 24/7 for more than a year.
I've had to reboot a few times and I reformatted my drives, so that took a while, but otherwise, this machine has stayed on since I bought it May 2005.
That's what I expect from my Macs.
works.
I know I can drive 36 miles each way to work in a $500.00 used Geo,
but life is too short for me to suffer that way.
My G5 has been running 24/7 for more than a year.
I've had to reboot a few times and I reformatted my drives, so that took a while, but otherwise, this machine has stayed on since I bought it May 2005.
That's what I expect from my Macs.
Define properly set-up on a $500.00 P/C to average mom and pop user without an IT department in their kitchen.
What are you trying to accomplish? Seriously.ljump12 said:
We do not care what you think. This is MacRumors. We are Mac fans.
It's a shocker I know!
I agree. I have a samsung laptop, and couldn't be happier. Although my next laptop will be a mac since Samsung doesn't sell their computers in the USA and, comparativley, the MacBook is probably the average price right now, but yeah.. I'll bet she likes that Samsung a lot!matttrick said:
I'm sure you could find one here...ljump12 said: