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Aluminum213

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A .5 upgrade of a model if I have ever seen one, but barely constitute as even a .1 upgrade. Even if you have money to burn I don’t see anyone updating to this model. Unless you’re that one person who wanted the LIR camera
 

The Game 161

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I foolishly sold my 12.9 2018 last year so i upgraded because well I wanted to go back but yeah if i had the 2018 i likely wouldn’t have upgraded but i bought 2020 12.9 and love the fact i get double the storage at 128GB and 6GB of ram. I used the LILDAR the first day but not used it since. Will be far more useful on the iPhone than it is on the iPad
 

AutomaticApple

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A .5 upgrade of a model if I have ever seen one, but barely constitute as even a .1 upgrade. Even if you have money to burn I don’t see anyone updating to this model. Unless you’re that one person who wanted the LIR camera
I'm also upgrading for the significant improvement in RAM like everybody else.
 

KittyKatta

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Everyone is saying “RAM” but is that a legitimate game changer or just an upgrade justification.

I’m not criticizing because I honestly do not know what the use case is, but if someone is struggling with 4GB then is 6GB really solving their problem? It seems like we’re on the brink of getting an actual “Pro Apps” so if Xcode or Final Cut or Logic show up then neither 4 or 6GB will be enough for “power users” and they’ll have to upgrade again next year if configurable RAM options come out for Pro machines.
 
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Digitalguy

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Everyone is saying “RAM” but is that a legitimate game changer or just an upgrade justification.

I’m not criticizing because I honestly do not know what the use case is, but if someone is struggling with 4GB then is 6GB really solving their problem? It seems like we’re on the brink of getting an actual “Pro Apps” so if Xcode or Final Cut or Logic show up then neither 4 or 6GB will be enough for “power users” and they’ll have to upgrade again next year if configurable RAM options come out for Pro machines.

First, nobody is “struggling“ with 4GB now, it’s more like 6GB is a nicer experience with less refreshes of apps and tabs.

Second, many people upgrade every 1 or 2 year anyway, when they can still sell their current pro at a good price.

Third, there is no guarantee that in a year we’ll have a 8GB ipad. My guess is that if Apple upgrades the CPU and maybe the screen, they will leave RAM at 6GB for next gen pros and give at best 8GB for the 1TB version...

Fourth, many people are not ”pro users” (in the sense that most of what they do is using pro apps), but they still want a pro for all the benefits that it has (quad speakers, USB C, pencil 2, etc). Which does not mean that they don’t occasionally use more “pro” apps...

Finally, when it comes to pro apps, they will not be allowed to use more memory than current best ipad has and they will scale down to ipads with lower specs as they already do (less filters etc.) or will only work on some ipads. The real problem will be multitasking between them. But I guess this problem will be a big issue in a couple of years, once enough pro apps are ported to ARM and ipad (not just by Apple). By then Apple will have ipads with more RAM and core... and people will just sell and upgrade again...
 

Johnny Steps

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There's no reason anyone should unless they have more money (or sense) to throw away. Anyone claiming it's for more RAM is just justifying in a way that makes their purchase "valid" so to say. By the time the actual 6GB of RAM is utilized, new iPad models will be out and, once again, these people will sell this version to upgrade AGAIN. Ironically, if it was for the AR tech that's fine, but I noticed no one actually said that lol.

In the past, upgrading yearly was indeed beneficial because the technological leaps were significant. Nowadays it's incremental. Really this model was really to entice some of the other people still using older models, not for those with the 2018 model.
 

Digitalguy

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There's no reason anyone should unless they have more money (or sense) to throw away. Anyone claiming it's for more RAM is just justifying in a way that makes their purchase "valid" so to say. By the time the actual 6GB of RAM is utilized, new iPad models will be out and, once again, these people will sell this version to upgrade AGAIN. Ironically, if it was for the AR tech that's fine, but I noticed no one actually said that lol.

In the past, upgrading yearly was indeed beneficial because the technological leaps were significant. Nowadays it's incremental. Really this model was really to entice some of the other people still using older models, not for those with the 2018 model.
Actual RAM is already used today, people report much less refreshes and selling your previous ipad it's all a matter of how much you can get when you sell. Sometimes upgrading every one or 2 year can actually save more money compared to upgrading less frequently, it all depends...
 
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Johnny Steps

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Actual RAM is already used today, people report much less refreshes and selling your previous ipad it's all a matter of how much you can get when you sell. Sometimes upgrading every one or 2 year can actually save more money compared to upgrading less frequently, it all depends...
Saving money in that sense depends on perspective. Seeing that benchmarks report small differences between the 2018 and 2020 versions, you're not getting your money's worth. While you can argue that selling that iPad to fund the purchase of the next one lowers the difference being paid, you're still paying a difference and still tacking on to the overall purchase that was initially made.
 

Digitalguy

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Saving money in that sense depends on perspective. Seeing that benchmarks report small differences between the 2018 and 2020 versions, you're not getting your money's worth. While you can argue that selling that iPad to fund the purchase of the next one lowers the difference being paid, you're still paying a difference and still tacking on to the overall purchase that was initially made.
If I had to chose between A13X and 2 additional GBs of RAM, I would take the RAM anyday....anyday..
 

Johnny Steps

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If I had to chose between A13X and 2 additional GBs of RAM, I would take the RAM anyday....anyday..
Fair enough. I just think RAM isn’t good enough of a reason for it considering Apple as an ecosystem is quite efficient at managing its available resources. If this was the situation of the iPad 3 with Retina where it was screwed by its hardware I would understand upgrading to the iPad 4 that followed it months later. But spending a significant amount of funds for isolated upgrades isn’t a good idea especially since you basically have to buy an entire iPad.
 

Digitalguy

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Fair enough. I just think RAM isn’t good enough of a reason for it considering Apple as an ecosystem is quite efficient at managing its available resources. If this was the situation of the iPad 3 with Retina where it was screwed by its hardware I would understand upgrading to the iPad 4 that followed it months later. But spending a significant amount of funds for isolated upgrades isn’t a good idea especially since you basically have to buy an entire iPad.
Ipad needs even less processing power than it needs RAM. So again benchmark matter little when you have an A12X... Now I agree that it's not worth the hassle for many, but it's not like those upgrading are paying a ton of money... I have seen people selling their entry level 11 pro for over $600 and buying the 2020 for $800 with double the storage and 50% more RAM, for less $200... And not only that, when they upgrade in 2 years they'll get more money out of the 2020 than out of their 2018 so it's probably quite a bit less than $200 what they actually paid for the upgrade...
 

lyngo

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My upgrade was a company purchase. If I do not use it specific for this purchase, I lose it. It is a specific line item built into the company’s budget. The 50% increase in RAM is a welcomed addition.
 
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Digitalguy

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You’re talking about a 2 gig ram upgrade after two years, do you realize how minute of an upgrade after that long of a period is?
it's minute indeed if you compare to the upgrade from 2nd to 3rd gen, and I have said this elsewhere, but that's not what I am saying. I am just saying it's the main reason to upgrade, not that everyone should upgrade. You mentioned benchmarks, what I said is that between a CPU upgrade and a RAM upgrade, a RAM upgrade is more important... RAM upgrades by Apple are few and far between. It took not 2 but 4.5 years to move from 4 to 6GB RAM (excluding the 1TB 2018), which is sad.... And if the 2015 ipad pro is still relevant today almost 5 years later it's thanks to that jump in RAM...
 

dk001

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My other half likes my 2018 IPP 11 and her Mini 5 was having hardware issues.
So I got the 2020 and she got my 2018.

I have found the extra RAM does help however I wish they would fix the RAM Management ...
 

triangletechie

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My upgrades were through my company. Upgraded camera and extra ram are welcomed additions. If you have the funds and you want to upgrade every device every time, go for it.
 
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