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Ghost31

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You’re talking about a 2 gig ram upgrade after two years, do you realize how minute of an upgrade after that long of a period is?
And the biggest downer of them all: by the time the extra 2 gigs of ram is actually fully utilized, (years down the line) you’ll probably be jonesing for a new ipad at that point anyway.

I remember going through the same thing years back. “If i buy this, its kinda future proof right?” Then i buy it totally intending to keep it forever. Or until it decides to poop out on me. But it took only next generation for their to be a big reason to upgrade iPads again and i upgraded. So buying for the sake of being future proof is kinda silly in this day and age. You can keep a 2018 iPad Pro for a long time if you have basic needs and an extra 2 gigs of ram isnt going to change your life. But if you just like tech and like cool stuff, next year or the year after you’ll probably end up upgrading anyway
 

petvas

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Jul 20, 2006
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I went from the 11" 2018 model to the 12,9" 2020 model. To be honest, I didn't need to, but I wanted to get the bigger display and of course I wanted to have the latest iPad. If I was short on money I wouldn't do that though..
There is almost no reason to upgrade, unless you are a tech enthusiast and want to have the latest gear..
 

aevan

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There's no reason anyone should unless they have more money (or sense) to throw away. Anyone claiming it's for more RAM is just justifying in a way that makes their purchase "valid" so to say. By the time the actual 6GB of RAM is utilized, new iPad models will be out and, once again, these people will sell this version to upgrade AGAIN. Ironically, if it was for the AR tech that's fine, but I noticed no one actually said that lol.

In the past, upgrading yearly was indeed beneficial because the technological leaps were significant. Nowadays it's incremental. Really this model was really to entice some of the other people still using older models, not for those with the 2018 model.

Exactly this. By the time this 6Gb is more useful (I say more, because it does have some benefits today, just not big ones) - there will be a shiny new iPad Pro, with a new CPU and who knows - maybe a new screen tech, maybe even something amazing like the taptic engine in an iPad somehow (yeah, I’m keeping this dream alive!) - and then people will want to upgrade to that. So, while people should buy what they want, for most people with 2018 iPad Pros, it is smart to skip and wait for the next one (unless they plan on buying every generation, I guess).

The RAM situation is not that simple. I do think iPad Pros would benefit from more, assuming the battery life stays the same (8.... heck, why not 16?) but in order for these to be actually useful, both Apple and developers need to utilize it in software. For example, even today, Procreate - one of the most popular apps on the platform and one that certainly needs RAM for multiple layers and file sizes - does not use the extra RAM on new iPad Pros. All of this will probably change one day, but today, the extra 2Gb of RAM are only good to save more apps in memory, while multitasking. Or to save more tabs in Safari. That’s it. And even then, iOS is agressive with shutting down apps, and there are no guarantees some of these won’t be closed because iOS de prioritized them for whatever reason.

It’s perfectly fine to upgrade, btw, if you feel like it and have the money. I mean, if I had much more money than I do, I’d buy it just because I love the iPad, and, you know - if nothing else - to get a new battery. And it’s not like the 2020 doesn’t have improvements - it’s just that they are small.

This is a refresh, iPad Pro has matured enough that it entered Mac territory, where refreshes happen from time to time, but they are not neccesarily intended as upgrades for previous users (though, certainly, Apple doesn’t mind if they do upgrade, lol) - but rather to have the latest and greatest for people who are buying at that moment. So the new iPad has the latest wifi, the latest camera tech, etc. It also has certain strategic updates like RAM, because this is probably how much iPad Pros are going to have for the next two or three years (and as much as I’d love 8Gb, people expecting it next year are too optimistic, I’d say).

In a way, it’s like 64bit. Apple will introduce more RAM to all devices and raise the upper limit for high-end devices, and at one point - they will actually start using it. My guess - it will slowly start to happen by the end of 2021. Of course, it’s just a guess.
 

The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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If i still had the 2018 model even me who upgrades everything would have stayed with 2018. That said I’m loving double the storage and more ram. I may keep this two years and then upgrade. I know rumours of mini LED in 2021 but if all the difference is the display I may just decide to wait...guess depends if the display is so much different which i don’t think it will be.
 

Adelphos33

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I am waiting for the alleged 2021 model - at that point the main point of the upgrade will still be for RAM and storage (I have 256G now, want to go to 1 TB). The goal would be to keep that model for three years.
 

Aluminum213

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I am waiting for the alleged 2021 model - at that point the main point of the upgrade will still be for RAM and storage (I have 256G now, want to go to 1 TB). The goal would be to keep that model for three years.

The next iPad I get will be the micro LED screen iPad, at least there will be some difference in that version
 
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EugW

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The biggest upgrade the iPad Pro has ever had IMO was the iPad Pro 9.7" to the iPad Pro 10.5", where it got a bigger screen, a proper sized keyboard, and twice the RAM.

The 2nd biggest upgrade the iPad Pro IMO was the change in form factor with the 3rd generation, with the addition of USB-C and Face ID.

The 3rd biggest upgrade in the iPad Pro IMO was the change in the base model with the 4th generation, where it got twice the storage and 50% more RAM, among other things.

That said, I wouldn't have upgraded from the 3rd generation to the 4th generation. I never upgrade after just one generation.

The next iPad I get will be the micro LED screen iPad, at least there will be some difference in that version
No it won't. Micro-LED is vapourware. If it ever comes to the iPad, it won't be for many, many years. You're probably confusing it with Mini-LED, which is a very different technology.
 

hotr32

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Dec 2, 2009
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Perhaps Apple’s target audience isn’t 2018 iPad users, but more so 10.5 Pro users, and even those 9.7 Pro users.
It’s no surprise that all the “techies” can immediately see the slight upgrade, and Apple knows this, they do it with iPhones all of the time, I hear and read about it every year, and yet Apple sells iPhones without any worry.
I love Apple, and their products and that’s why I continue to use them, but they are a business first, “hobby” company second.
I would say most 2018 users wouldn’t jump to upgrade because of the improvements, if I see a lot of, “my significant other/family member/child will be getting my old one, my employer require me to get a new one, I just have the money and want the newest.
At the end of the day, it’s that individuals prerogative if they buy it or not. I can tell you as a 10.5 Pro user, this upgrade makes more sense, if I had the 11 Pro, I’m sure the thought process would be more difficult.
 

ralphdaily

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Aug 18, 2008
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I upgraded my 12.9” iPad Pro because I always upgrade. But I couldn’t tell any meaningful difference so I returned the 2020 iPad Pro & kept the 2018. On a positive note I bought the 12.9” Magic Keyboard & the upgraded keyboard makes a huge difference. Tip: Get the new keyboard, not the new iPad Pro.
 
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stlredbird

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Feb 24, 2009
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I upgraded from the 2015 12.9 Pro, and honestly that old iPad was still kicking ass. But I needed a keyboard case and I thought getting a $150+ keyboard case for a 5 year old iPad was not the best idea. I would probably have just gotten the 2018 model but the extra 2 GB of RAM made it a no brainer for me. I'm convinced that 2015 model still ran like a champ b/c it had such a large amount of RAM (in iOS world) so I figure with 6 GB in this new one I'll get at least another 4-5 years out of it.
 

EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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I upgraded from the 2015 12.9 Pro, and honestly that old iPad was still kicking ass. But I needed a keyboard case and I thought getting a $150+ keyboard case for a 5 year old iPad was not the best idea. I would probably have just gotten the 2018 model but the extra 2 GB of RAM made it a no brainer for me. I'm convinced that 2015 model still ran like a champ b/c it had such a large amount of RAM (in iOS world) so I figure with 6 GB in this new one I'll get at least another 4-5 years out of it.
A9X of the original iPad Pro 12.9" is not bad. it's slower than the A10 in the iPad 7th gen 10.2" but definitely is still adequate for mainstream usage these days. Pair that with 4 GB RAM, and it's quite a decent machine.

I wouldn't say the same thing about the iPad Pro 9.7" though. It's OK, but the 2 GB RAM and inability to use a full sized keyboard are major downers IMO.
 
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pdoherty

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Dec 30, 2014
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You’re talking about a 2 gig ram upgrade after two years, do you realize how minute of an upgrade after that long of a period is?

It’s a 50% upgrade. It’s also quite a bit more than that, in reality, since the OS is likely consuming roughly 1GB in both cases for core functions (leaving 3GB or 5GB available, respectively, for apps).
 

ct2k7

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Aug 29, 2008
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It’s a 50% upgrade. It’s also quite a bit more than that, in reality, since the OS is likely consuming roughly 1GB in both cases for core functions (leaving 3GB or 5GB available, respectively, for apps).

that extra 2GB of RAM is not allocatable to apps, it's kept to the OS.
 

Digitalguy

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There is a big point of confusion that needs to be made clear..
The fact that one single app cannot address more than 4GB RAM does NOT mean that the extra 2GB are not allocated to apps. They are just not allocated to ONE single app... And that’s a good thing. Because if a single app can take 5 GB more, there would be barely any RAM left for ipadOS to function smoothly, let alone for other apps to multitask. This would not lead to refreshes, but to freezes of the system, as it happens with old ipads...
 
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secretk

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There is a big point of confusion that needs to be made clear..
The fact that one single app cannot address more than 4GB RAM does NOT mean that the extra 2GB are not allocated to apps. They are just not allocated to ONE single app... And that’s a good thing. Because if a single app can take 5 GB more, there would be barely any RAM left for ipadOS to function smoothly, let alone for other apps to multitask. This would not lead to refreshes, but to freezes of the system, as it happens with old ipads...

Interesting interpretation. I did not understand it like that at all but it might be my mistake.

First I want to point out that this discussion was back in 2018 when only the 1 TB 2018 model had 6 GB RAM. I cannot say if it is still valid now that all 2020 iPads have 6 GB RAM.

That being said what I got from the posted link:

  1. Procreate decides based on the device's RAM how many layers are available to be created for certain canvas size. They have not hardcoded the value of layers, they calculate it based on the available RAM to them (which is a check I assume on iOS level)
  2. You can create the same number of layers on iPads with 4 GB and 6 GB RAM. In other words when it comes to Procreate there is no difference for the end user in terms of number of layers.
As we know that Procreate behaves the same with 2018 models with 4 GB RAM and 2018 models with 6 GB this means that the additional 2 GB RAM are not treated the same way as the other 4. There is complete lack of information on why those 2 GB RAM are added and what purpose they serve. So for me as an end user there is concrete proof or guarantee that those 2 GB RAM help me in any meaningful way.

I can potentially find something if I buy such device and decide to test but this is not what I would do. I expect Apple to provide information on that.
 

Digitalguy

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Interesting interpretation. I did not understand it like that at all but it might be my mistake.

First I want to point out that this discussion was back in 2018 when only the 1 TB 2018 model had 6 GB RAM. I cannot say if it is still valid now that all 2020 iPads have 6 GB RAM.

That being said what I got from the posted link:

  1. Procreate decides based on the device's RAM how many layers are available to be created for certain canvas size. They have not hardcoded the value of layers, they calculate it based on the available RAM to them (which is a check I assume on iOS level)
  2. You can create the same number of layers on iPads with 4 GB and 6 GB RAM. In other words when it comes to Procreate there is no difference for the end user in terms of number of layers.
As we know that Procreate behaves the same with 2018 models with 4 GB RAM and 2018 models with 6 GB this means that the additional 2 GB RAM are not treated the same way as the other 4. There is complete lack of information on why those 2 GB RAM are added and what purpose they serve. So for me as an end user there is concrete proof or guarantee that those 2 GB RAM help me in any meaningful way.

I can potentially find something if I buy such device and decide to test but this is not what I would do. I expect Apple to provide information on that.
It seams very clear to me "Apple has allocated this extra RAM to things like iOS Multitasking, so that the devices run faster and smoother when you're using more apps ". What's more tests have clearly shown the 6GB on that model holding more apps in RAM...
 
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