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I thought the Droid was going to be really cool until I saw this picture:

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That keyboard looks impossible difficult to manage for someone with even moderately large-ish hands, and what's with the little mouse/joystick/trackpad on the right?

Android 2 looks great, but this hardware looks...lame.

The Moto Droid also has virtual keyboards in portrait and landscape, in addition to the slider. Best of all worlds, yes?
 
I just don't know how anyone can switch to a phone that isn't out yet. I do think the Droid is a cool phone from what I saw, but who knows how it will be in real life situations. It may even feel cheap, or the touch screen is bad.
I just don't get it at all
 
I just don't know how anyone can switch to a phone that isn't out yet. I do think the Droid is a cool phone from what I saw, but who knows how it will be in real life situations. It may even feel cheap, or the touch screen is bad.
I just don't get it at all

People like to try and make a fuss and act like their leaving a product actually matters.

The fact is that Droid as advertised by motorola is a CDMA device, meaning said switcher would need to not only ditch their iPhone (which is on a 2 year contract) but also pay an ETF and transition to Verizon and start a new service contract with them requiring a 90 day waiting period before AT&T releases their previous number.

The plan is so flawed its not even funny.
 
I just don't know how anyone can switch to a phone that isn't out yet. I do think the Droid is a cool phone from what I saw, but who knows how it will be in real life situations. It may even feel cheap, or the touch screen is bad.
I just don't get it at all

iPhone users switched from some other device, probably even some other carrier. It's going to happen. Plus, potential iPhone buyers also get an earful about AT&T and issues with the iPhone, so let's not pretend that it's all "greener" on this side of the fence. ;)
 
People like to try and make a fuss and act like their leaving a product actually matters.

The fact is that Droid as advertised by motorola is a CDMA device, meaning said switcher would need to not only ditch their iPhone (which is on a 2 year contract) but also pay an ETF and transition to Verizon and start a new service contract with them requiring a 90 day waiting period before AT&T releases their previous number.

The plan is so flawed its not even funny.
Sorry for asking this, why a 90 day period? I switched from Verizon and paid an ETF without waiting 90 days (well I did get out of paying the ETF) and had no problem porting my number to at&t or and I not understanding this correctly?
 
It's just another new thing. There are going to be people that are willing to try something different for a change. People are fickle, and it will all balance out in the end.

That's not to say Android 2.0 isn't awesome... Finally there's something else out there to compete with iPhone OS.

However, There's going to have to be a much more compelling hardware change to make Android the leading mobile phone solution. (at least to make me switch phones)
 
Increased OS capabilities, larger pixel counts and other features are going to push processor speed and throughput . . . that's going to be the biggest effect for us, the consumers. Balancing processor power and battery life in a handset is the game.
 
It's great to have choices. Knock yourself out, as well as any others that don't like the iPhone. NO ONE is forcing you to use it. YOU SIGNED THE AT&T CONTRACT!!!! NO ONE FORCES YOU!

I'd say the "nobody forced you" comment is a LOT older. And more irritating.

As others have mentioned, leaving the iPhone is no easy task. I was able to stick with the change to Blackberry (Bold) for almost four days.
 
Sorry for asking this, why a 90 day period? I switched from Verizon and paid an ETF without waiting 90 days (well I did get out of paying the ETF) and had no problem porting my number to at&t or and I not understanding this correctly?

I think it talking out of that round hole on the lower half of his body there.
 
I just don't know how anyone can switch to a phone that isn't out yet. I do think the Droid is a cool phone from what I saw, but who knows how it will be in real life situations. It may even feel cheap, or the touch screen is bad.
I just don't get it at all

Well I suppose individual feelings will vary, but all the hands-on impressions I've seen from every tech site have been very, very positive. I guess we'll see what the long-term review is on it but early reports are pretty darn good. Add that to the apparent awesomeness of Eclair and you may have something. I've gotta say that while I don't see the need for Apple to innovate, I am getting a little tired of this platform after 2.5 years. I never would have seen myself saying that a couple months ago, but seeing what's on the near horizon and being underwhelmed by the apparently poor QC of 3.1.1 and 3.1.2, I'm just feeling like it may be time for a change. I personally am interested in the hd2, and if it can pull it all together I'll give it a shot in spite of WM. Just looking for a snappier safari of course right?
 
Droid will be just like the rest.... palm pre.... blackberry touch screen... all garbage. It's all a bad attempt to reinvent the wheel...
 
I love my iPhone. I really do. I've had an iPhone since July 2007 when the first iPhone was released. I even had OS 2.0 loaded with Super Monkey Ball in line the day of the 3G launch so I could play with it while I waited for my 3G.

Sadly, the iPhone is looking less and less shiny each day. It is a great device with solid hardware and a gorgeous interface. I think it is everything Macs are only in phone form, but even the greatest phone imaginable can't make up for at&t's crumbling network.

I've used my iPhone in three cities already putting up with dropped calls, 3G dropping back to EDGE constantly with 5 bars of service, and all this while friends with Verizon have been able to use their phones. It might work fine in your area where you are right now, but there is a reason for the complaints about at&t.

The Motorola Droid might not be an iPhone killer, but at&t sure could be. I'm looking at the Droid now when I have a 3GS. The reason: at&t

The defenders of the iPhone can talk about how great a device it is. I'll agree with every word they say, but all I have to say in reply is even the greatest phone can make up for a crumbling network. at&t might be fine in your area, but in many areas it is starting to degrade to the point of uselessness.
 
It might work fine in your area where you are right now, but there is a reason for the complaints about at&t.

The Motorola Droid might not be an iPhone killer, but at&t sure could be. I'm looking at the Droid now when I have a 3GS. The reason: at&t

The defenders of the iPhone can talk about how great a device it is. I'll agree with every word they say, but all I have to say in reply is even the greatest phone can make up for a crumbling network.
at&t might be fine in your area, but in many areas it is starting to degrade to the point of uselessness.

The same can be said about any service provider, it might be fine in your area but to other areas, no. Just realize that if and when you go to Verizon or Sprint or T-Mobile. They all have their share of bad coverage areas.
 
Try switching. Then let us know. We'll love to hear your complaints when you come back.

NOT. :rolleyes:
 
I love my iPhone. I really do. I've had an iPhone since July 2007 when the first iPhone was released. I even had OS 2.0 loaded with Super Monkey Ball in line the day of the 3G launch so I could play with it while I waited for my 3G.

Sadly, the iPhone is looking less and less shiny each day. It is a great device with solid hardware and a gorgeous interface. I think it is everything Macs are only in phone form, but even the greatest phone imaginable can't make up for at&t's crumbling network.

I've used my iPhone in three cities already putting up with dropped calls, 3G dropping back to EDGE constantly with 5 bars of service, and all this while friends with Verizon have been able to use their phones. It might work fine in your area where you are right now, but there is a reason for the complaints about at&t.

The Motorola Droid might not be an iPhone killer, but at&t sure could be. I'm looking at the Droid now when I have a 3GS. The reason: at&t

The defenders of the iPhone can talk about how great a device it is. I'll agree with every word they say, but all I have to say in reply is even the greatest phone can make up for a crumbling network. at&t might be fine in your area, but in many areas it is starting to degrade to the point of uselessness.

And there are reasons to complain about all carriers. Do you think any network could handle the load the iPhone has created? Very few could and have. Verizon would have crumbled as well.

And, as others have said in this thread, it all depends on region. I'm sitting in a half-basement right now with 5 bars of 3G on my iPhone - and I used to constantly switch between EDGE and 3G here - and, if lucky 2-3 bars on my CDMA BlackBerry but it drops with just a slide across a desk. I know that, in my region, the CDMA networks are awful. T-mobile is awful here. The only good network here, and the strongest I've seen out of all the providers here, is at&t. Few holes, great speed...
 
So what exactly will/does the OP use as cell phone after selling his iPhone & waiting for this new "wunder" phone to hit the steets? (yes I used wunder (German) instead of wonder (English) intentionally)
 
Creating just an equivalent would be easy. The hardware isn't unique, and the iPhone's UI is very simple, which is why it's popular.

But no one's tried to do that. Instead, they've all been trying to create something more powerful, but still easy to use, and that's been the stumbling block. (Although I think the Pre comes closest, if they'd just make the screen larger.)

Not entirely. Microsoft started with something powerful and has been trying to dumb it down to the iPhone level for two years with limited success. If the OS itself hadn't been so stylus oriented, the Sprint Touch would have been an excellent competitor to the iPhone. Or the other way around.
 
And there are reasons to complain about all carriers. Do you think any network could handle the load the iPhone has created? Very few could and have. Verizon would have crumbled as well.

Verizon might've run into some early congestion, but major pieces of the situation would've been radically different.

To begin with, Verizon had far, far greater 3G coverage at the time. No need to settle for EDGE.

So Verizon would have undoubtedly required the phone to have 3G from the start.

ATT is about stuff like rollover minutes. Verizon is all about the network and the old style 99.999% uptime. Remember the first activations, where they took all weekend? Then the next time, that repeated? No way that Verizon would've allowed delays twice, even if they had to put on another thousand servers.

And, as far as congestion goes, Verizon's been beefing up their backhaul for years in preparation for 4G. Instead of having to build out just 3G like ATT has, they would've spent their money and time on backhaul.

So no, I don't buy the whole "it would've been just as bad on Verizon" stuff. Or Sprint, for that matter.
 
I think it talking out of that round hole on the lower half of his body there.

I remember people saying here that AT&T can hold your number for 90 days before releasing it if you cancel your contract early. I can't confirm that, but I believe I read that here before.
 
I remember people saying here that AT&T can hold your number for 90 days before releasing it if you cancel your contract early. I can't confirm that, but I believe I read that here before.

Verizon didn't hold my number when I canceled to switch to the iPhone. It worked the same day (in less than 30 minutes if I recall correctly).
 
Verizon didn't hold my number when I canceled to switch to the iPhone. It worked the same day (in less than 30 minutes if I recall correctly).

Maybe its an AT&T ETF policy, or if you cancel your AT&T contract you can't rejoin AT&T for 90 days. I don't remember the exact wording but its possible I might have misread, it was back in June that I saw this comment.
 
Have fun with that.

Only the truly hardware-ignorant people would think the iPhone 3GS is just a few minor changes to the prior iPhones.

It's much more than that.

Go have fun getting the newest thing even though it'll hurt you. And when you come crawling back to the iPhone it'll take you back with open arms.

The original iPhone was revolutionary, but what major changes has Apple made? There's been no new additions that don't exist on other phones. The last 2 updates have beefed up the processor, allowed it to access 3G, and take video. Nothing amazing. Still a great phone, no doubt. But the 3G and 3GS are not revolutionary. I think this next phone will be the first real big step since the original.
 
I am also going to Verizon. I will get the droid because it will be the "coolest" phone out on that network. But I am switching basically because ATT service is terrible. I dont mean call quality, I am talking about data. I cannot get 3G anywhere with ATT, and the internet is terribly slow. So yea here I come Verizon. Also if you check 9 to 5 or appleinsider, Verizon should be getting the iphone eventually in 2010 when ATT contract is up.

Verizon "has been getting" the iPhone since it was launched several years ago. :rolleyes:
 
Verizon might've run into some early congestion, but major pieces of the situation would've been radically different.

To begin with, Verizon had far, far greater 3G coverage at the time. No need to settle for EDGE.

So Verizon would have undoubtedly required the phone to have 3G from the start.

ATT is about stuff like rollover minutes. Verizon is all about the network and the old style 99.999% uptime. Remember the first activations, where they took all weekend? Then the next time, that repeated? No way that Verizon would've allowed delays twice, even if they had to put on another thousand servers.

And, as far as congestion goes, Verizon's been beefing up their backhaul for years in preparation for 4G. Instead of having to build out just 3G like ATT has, they would've spent their money and time on backhaul.

So no, I don't buy the whole "it would've been just as bad on Verizon" stuff. Or Sprint, for that matter.


You don't know that. Your comments mean just as much as anyone else. Zilch. It's ALL speculation. Nobody will ever know just how well big red would have handled an iPhone roll out. Nobody. You can talk about it until the cows come home. It changes nothing.
 
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