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Never owned a mac but I'm interested in joining the club. Louis Rossmann seems to have a lot of "things" to say about Macbook engineering and build quality. Should I be worried?

Apple has had a number of engineering missteps over the years, often times ending in free fixit campaigns through threat of lawsuit or public backlash. Based on timing some people get stuck with rather high fees to fix, sometimes being half the cost of a new machine.

I've been part of 3 of these - 1) the 8600GT issue w/ the 2008 MBP, requiring a new logic board and 2) a retina display delamination, requiring a screen swap and 3) a butterfly keyboard issue requiring top case replacement. Didn't end up paying for any of these, but came dangerously close to paying for #1.

I have no idea how many of these have occurred but it seems like there's some active case like this every year or two.

All that said, have owned about 15 Apple laptops over the years, and probably 10 or so Windows based ones, and it's been a decade since I've had anything Windows related. Most of these were work based as a software developer since the late 90s and about 5-6 Apple laptops have been personal machines. My father also typically has a windows laptop at any given time that I occasionally have to fix.

Aside from say possibly a ThinkPad (and sure there are some other higher quality built machines), nothing really holds up mechanically like an Apple laptop - aside from the butterfly issues, but that no longer exists in their lineup. You can use one for a good 5 years and it will be a solid machine with no squeaks and rattles. And from a software perspective Apple will support it for at least 7 years.

The chance of you getting into some design defect and having to pay $$ that Apple won't cover out of warranty is going to be low on the whole, esp. if you have AppleCare. I never buy AppleCare, that is how unconcerned I am with this... I figure if I get caught paying out of pocket for some major issue every 4th laptop, I still come out ahead.

It seems like going into year 3 for the 14/16" MBPs, these are easily the best built/engineered machines Apple has produced, in part by reversing past trend of increasingly thin/light. They run much cooler and the Apple SOC is of course ridiculously performant against power usage. I'm unaware of any issues with these machines, but perhaps Louis has identified some concerns.
 
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I thought M3 was going to be groundbreaking, but the latest iPhone chip is 3nm and only like 10% faster 🫣
speed is one thing, for iPhone or Mac ok, but I'm above all interested in the gain in battery life and overall energy consumption, especially for the mac.
 
speed is one thing, for iPhone or Mac ok, but I'm above all interested in the gain in battery life and overall energy consumption, especially for the mac.
I am not because I am always looking at desktops, BUT that brings me to a point :
I really think they should differenciate desktop and laptop chips, even if they just overclock the laptop chip for the desktop, I'd be a happy camper 😃
 
I am not because I am always looking at desktops, BUT that brings me to a point :
I really think they should differenciate desktop and laptop chips, even if they just overclock the laptop chip for the desktop, I'd be a happy camper 😃
for the M3 I was thinking about the macbook air or pro when I replied to your post. i'm not gonna own a desktop again, last one was maybe 20 yr ago.
 
I am not because I am always looking at desktops, BUT that brings me to a point :
I really think they should differenciate desktop and laptop chips, even if they just overclock the laptop chip for the desktop, I'd be a happy camper 😃

I think, for CPU power and scaling, Apple's design priority on mobile first has proven itself fine. Apple is making a perfectly reasonable "bigger CPU for single threaded performance" tradeoff.

Because of Apple's current iGPU only stance, it is really GPU power that Apple's scaling is the serious desktop power issue.
 
Just tried to order a 15 Air for my dad, most configs are out of stock at my 15 local Apple Stores with new models not arriving to any of them until Nov 13, and I tried various colors/configs. It seems clear to me that they too are getting the update to M3 chip this week.
 
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