Fraudulent Mac Retailers

[jxyama]

first thing first... someone who's been a victim should email the guy and tell him that you will be asking the authority to take down that website unless you get a proper response. (i.e. refund)

this website has no business being online. anyone has any experience asking proper ISP or host site to take down websites?

this should be done before more people are victimized.

 

[brianbbbvan]

macwhitzshop.com

THIS REPORT IS NOT TO BE USED FOR SALES OR PROMOTIONAL PURPOSES.


A BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU OF MAINLAND BRITISH COLUMBIA REPORT
M W Computers
342 6540 E Hastings St
Burnaby, BC V6B 4Z5


General Information
Original Business Start Date: Mar-1996
Principal: Derald Dutchak, President
Telephone #: (778) 868-8105
Email Address: info@macwhizshop.com
Business Classification(s): COMPUTER DEALERS

Web Address: http://www.macwhizshop.com


Customer Experience
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaints.
As of December 1, 2003: The Better Business Bureau advises consumers who have complaints against this company to contact the Compliance and Consumer Services Branch of the Ministry Of Public Safety and Solicitor General at 1-888-564-9963.

As of November 21, 2003: Consumers have complained to the Better Business Bureau about non-delivery of product, specifically, that computers have not been received. Do NOT do business with this company! Please be advised that if you have paid for a computer by credit card you should contact your credit card company to request a chargeback (the reversal of the charge made to your credit card account) due to the product not being delivered.




Additional Business Names
Mac Whiz
Additional Telephone Numbers
(604) 608-3539

BBB Membership
This company is not a member of this Better Business Bureau.

Report as of: 05/12/2003
Copyright© 2003 Better Business Bureau of Mainland B.C.

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained herein is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.

The Better Business Bureau reports on members and non-members. Membership in the BBB is voluntary, and members must meet and maintainBBB standards. If a company is a member of this BBB, it is stated in this report.

 

[chirag]

scandle: macwhizshop

> The Macrumors Crime Fighting Squad is at it
> again!

> Good luck to all and I hope you catch him like > you did with that ebay fraudster a while ago.

can you send me personal msg elaborating this case of ebay fraudester? may help in our case.

once again, request to victims: plz. send me your info personally AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE so that we all can take some actions.

 

[scotty321]

Hello everybody,

Thank you to Donna Temple for contacting me via email. I am Scott Rose, President of ScottWorld (http://www.scottworld.com), and the photo that Derald Dutchak claims is a photo of him is actually me. This many has gone way beyond even fraud -- he is now dabbling in identity theft as well!

I emailed him this letter:

Derald,

You have 24 hours to remove the FRAUDULENT photo claiming to be you & Steve Jobs off of your website. As you know, you have stolen that photo from my website, and you are trying to perpetrate identity theft against me by stealing my idenitity. Due to your fraudulent & immoral activity, you have also caused me a great deal of financial damage by putting this photo on your site.

If this photo is not off of your website within 24 hours, I will be contacting the FBI about the fraudulent activity that you are committing, plus I will be suing you for damages & you will be receiving a letter from my lawyers before the holidays begin. My lawyers are legally authorized to prosecute in Canada, and I will also be pursuing jail time for you as well.

Furthermore, I will be automatically scouring every single page of your entire website every single day to ensure that you never use a photo of mine again.

You should be ashamed of yourself for ever existing on this planet. I don't know how you can look yourself in the mirror in the morning.

Scott

 

[scotty321]

Also, I wanted to point out that the photo on his website of his "retail store" is actually Creative Computers in Santa Monica, California.

 

[scotty321]

It seems like his website is being hosted by look.ca. The only page I can find that has some sort of an email address for security complaints is on this page:
<http://look.ca/e/legal/moderator.htm>

Here's the letter I sent:

A customer of look.ca is using your web servers to perpetrate international fraud on dozens of customers.
Macintosh Fraud Alert!

A man named Derald Dutchak, the owner of MacWhizShop, in Barnaby, Canada, is a fraud and has a website claiming to sell brand new Macs at discounted prices by buying from auctions and closing businesses.

His website is:
http://www.macwhizshop.com/

I was alerted to this man because he is FRAUDULENTLY using a photograph of me and Steve Jobs on his website (click on "About Us" at the bottom of the site), and is pretending that he is me. He clearly stole this photograph off of my own website. The photo of his supposed "retail store" is another fraudulent photograph -- ripped off from Creative Computers in Santa Monica, California.

I was not one of his financial victims, but it appears that there are many victims who order a Macintosh from him and never receive it. He claims to have a problem with your VISA -- says if you would like to pay by another method, he will ship once funds are confirmed.

Once money has been received - nothing. He then stalls people by saying it's on back order, doesn't reply to anyone, no matter how many emails you send. There are many people that have been victims, and are exchanging information and support on the MacRumors.com forums located here:
<https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41856>

I have already sent him a letter threatening legal action for fraudulently using my photo and claiming to be me.

 

[lildancer]

mac whiz

Hi all you Crime Fighters!

I am Donna Temple (lildancer) who notified Scott Rose (Scotty321)
of his photo fraud by Derald Dutchak.

But I really want to give huge thanks to Anibalcascais for awesome investigative work in catching the false photo. This is actual and blantant proof that this guy is a fraud, and he's pretty stupid to think that he could pull something like that off without it being discovered by true Mac gurus.
But more than that, it was an important break in getting this guy stopped and hopefully some justice being done.

I have also submitted a claim to the Internet Fraud Complaint Center,
ifccfbi.gov. They are asking for more victims. If you want to add to my claim, please log on to complaint# 103121502366053, password:boqofu

Good job everyone. Lets hope we can get our money back and stope his reign of fraud.

 

[jxyama]

scott -

thank you very much for taking your time dealing with this. i believe you have much better access to useful resources (lawyers, public figure status, viable business and clear personal and business damages from his use of your picture) than many of us.

even though you are an innocent bystander drawn into the mess because of the scum's identity theft, i am sure many of us appreciate your effort. i'm waiting for that site to come down now and this guy to be caught...

 

[grafikat]

I would suggest also contacting his hosting company look.ca Other information on his hosting/domain: http://www.whois.sc/macwhizshop.com

And PLEASE contact the royal mounties!
http://www.rcmp.ca/scams/scams_e.htm

 

[c1pher]

could also bring him down with a good ol' fashioned Slashdotting, if it makes it into a article posting there

Originally posted by grafikat
I would suggest also contacting his hosting company look.ca Other information on his hosting/domain: http://www.whois.sc/macwhizshop.com

 

[scotty321]

I posted this news story on MacSlash, I suppose I should do it on SlashDot as well.

 

[scotty321]

Hey, I just wanted to say, what an incredible community the Macintosh community is. I mean, the sheer savviness of that one Macintosh guy who recognized my photo and decided to do a Google Image Search to track dwn the real photo. Amazing!!

 

[scotty321]

Oh yeah, one other thing! I forgot to mention that Derald just emailed me back and has the HUBRIS to claim that it is HIM in the photograph! Here's the thread:

==================

From: Scott Rose
To: Derald Dutchak <derald@macwhizshop.com>

Excellent. You've just incriminated yourself via email for identity theft. That is a felony, by the way.

Derald Dutchak (MAC Whiz) at macshopz@macwhizshop.com wrote:

>
>
> Are you playing games with me? I will call the police you fraudster!
> You think I don't know who I am...
>
> Derald
>
>
> Scott Rose <scott@scottworld.com> said:
>
>> If you're going to play like that, we'll just talk when you're behind bars.
>> My lawyer is already on top of writing you a cease & desist letter.
>>
>> Derald Dutchak (MAC Whiz) at macshopz@macwhizshop.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are you talking about?
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Rose <scott@scottworld.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Derald,
>>>>
>>>> You have 24 hours to remove the FRAUDULENT photo claiming to be you &
> Steve
>>>> Jobs off of your website. As you know, you have stolen that photo from
> my
>>>> website, and you are trying to perpetrate identity theft against me by
>>>> stealing my idenitity. Due to your fraudulent & immoral activity, you
> have
>>>> also caused me a great deal of financial damage by putting this photo on
>>>> your site.
>>>>
>>>> If this photo is not off of your website within 24 hours, I will be
>>>> contacting the FBI about the fraudulent activity that you are committing,
>>>> plus I will be suing you for damages & you will be receiving a letter
> from
>>>> my lawyers before the holidays begin. My lawyers are legally authorized
> to
>>>> prosecute in Canada, and I will also be pursuing jail time for you as
> well.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, I will be automatically scouring every single page of your
>>>> entire website every single day to ensure that you never use a photo of
> mine
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> You should be ashamed of yourself for ever existing on this planet. I
> don't
>>>> know how you can look yourself in the mirror in the morning.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott Rose
>>>> President, ScottWorld
>>>> Software. Speaking. Solutions. Since 1992.
>>>>
>>>> (323) 954-1978
>>>> (253) 736-7627 fax
>>>> http://www.scottworld.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Derald Dutchak
>>> MAC Whiz
>>> President/Owner
>>> derald@macwhizshop.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott Rose
>> President, ScottWorld
>> Software. Speaking. Solutions. Since 1992.
>>
>> (323) 954-1978
>> (253) 736-7627 fax
>> http://www.scottworld.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Derald Dutchak
> MAC Whiz
> President/Owner
> derald@macwhizshop.com
>
>


--
Scott Rose
President, ScottWorld
Software. Speaking. Solutions. Since 1992.

(323) 954-1978
(253) 736-7627 fax
http://www.scottworld.com

 

[chirag]

scandle: macwhizshop

well, he took out that picture of scott from his site, but he still shows the picuture of "his" retails store... there's change in the address also in last few days.. earlier it used to be

342-6540 E. Hastings St.
Burnaby, BC V6B 4Z5
Canada

now its

8959 W. 10th Ave
Suite #502
Vancouver, BC V6B 3F8
Canada

i wonder what this guy is upto.. seems too smart, but also greedy..

hats off to those experts on this forum who're doing amazing work even if they're not victims.. keep up the fight..!!

chirag

 

[JustAGuy]

I'd believe the first one. At least it's a real address. The actual postal code for 6540 East Hastings (real building) is V5B 4Z5.

8959 W. 10th Ave is a fictional address, as W10th in Vancouver ends very promptly at around 4600. If it really did go for another 43 blocks west, you'd be quite a ways out in the Straight of Georgia...

 

[ovrdrvn]

Further Information

I'd suggest that any further info be passed to those interested via private message. The likelihood that he monitors this forum at this point is high...why give him any more information about what we know.

 

[jxyama]

Re: Further Information

Originally posted by ovrdrvn
I'd suggest that any further info be passed to those interested via private message. The likelihood that he monitors this forum at this point is high...why give him any more information about what we know.

well, even if he sees all this, there's nothing he can do. as the prev. poster said, he likely has given away his real address before faking to another one. and we have one very resourseful person taking legal action against him due to his stupidity in stealing scott rose's picture.

i'd say share away. more people know what's going on, more likely we will come up with means to get this guy. the only thing to watch out for is another case of jamekurtis - the scammer himself or a collaborator posting something bogus here to confuse us.

 

[anibalcascais]

Good, good...

Hi,

I Just want to say that I'm very happy that I could've be of some assistance in tracking the picture and clarifying this subject. I don't know how US Laws work in this matters, but there should some way of taking the site down (any mac users lawyers there?).
Oh! I'm not a Mac user, by the way; just a mac fan and future user (When $$$ isn't a problem anymore Hey, maybe I deserve a Mac as a gift now (just kidding)
Keep up the good work y'all

Scotty:
I'm glad that, at least this whole image issue was resolved. Maybe you could contact that mac reseller you mentioned about their image on macwhiz?

Thanks,
Anibal

 

[rlhubley]

This sucks! This kind of behavoir is shows mankind at one it's lowest lows, IMHO. I would just like to say to anyone who has been screwed, call your credit card company IMMEDIATLY! You have a certain amount of days to conduct a chargeback(which i think protects you for the full amount minus $50), i think you have 90 days. After that period has passed, your money is gone!!!!! That is why this jerk is stalling so hard. If he can get you to wait long enough, he gets paid. What an ******.

One more reminder. Apple sells their products through themselves and through authorized Apple retailers ONLY. This should be reported to Apple IMMEDIATLY as well. Those who have been screwed, contact Apple and make them aware of this guy. Their legal team could, and probably would, take care of this guy.

 

[chirag]

the guy is smarter than what we think.. thats why he recommends wire transfer and even if you try with credit card, as one person did, he'll say there's some problem with it, and so you better send money by wire transfer.

 

[Thargok]

This is what I got...

Whois info for, macwhizshop.com:


Registrant:
MAC WHIZ COMPUTERS
342-6540 E. Hastings St.
Burnaby, BC V5B 4Z5
CA

Domain name: MACWHIZSHOP.COM

Administrative Contact:
Dutchak, Derald macshopz@yahoo.com
342-6540 E. Hastings St.
Burnaby, BC V5B 4Z5
CA
604-608-3539 Fax: 604-608-3539

Technical Contact:
Dutchak, Derald macshopz@yahoo.com
342-6540 E. Hastings St.
Burnaby, BC V5B 4Z5
CA
604-608-3539 Fax: 604-608-3539

Sorry to those who have been scammed.

 

[lildancer]

macwhizshop

I agree with keeping this info in the open for the benefit of the victims. If this hadn't happened, I wouldn't have known about the bogus picture which was blantant fraud that when researched, gave us all an even strong case with the authourities. If I hadn't seen if from Anibal, I wouldn't have looked into it myself and contacted Scott Rose.

Power is in communication and strength is in numbers. I think the more we share the more info we have to empower ourselves, and to hopefully get justice. I'm really proud of our Crimefighting team! Besides that, when you share info as to who to contact for making claims, all the victims benefit.

Great job everyone! Even the non-mac user!!!!

 

[rlhubley]

Just my thoughts....


... Don't EVER buy on a wire transfer!! That's crazy! do NOT do it!

Use a credit card or a visa check card. That why we have those, they protect us(ironic, isn't, those who take so much of our money and make us so angry actually can PROTECT us. )

 

[Raid]

Re: scandle: macwhizshop

Originally posted by chirag
there's change in the address also in last few days.. earlier it used to be

342-6540 E. Hastings St.
Burnaby, BC V6B 4Z5
Canada

now its

8959 W. 10th Ave
Suite #502
Vancouver, BC V6B 3F8
Canada

I've been following this thread and decided to add my $0.02. I looked up the postal code here on Canada Post's website. The first code belongs to a Mailboxes Etc. store, and the other address (including a reverse postal code lookup doesn't exist).

I would join in the chorus of others and ask that people who have been defrauded by this company contact the RCMP, their credit card company and Apple Canada.

I'm all for shutting this guy down if he's trying to rip people off.

 

[krimson]

For those in the USA, and were victimized, i'd make a small suggestion, try signing up with Pre Paid Legal , it's $20/month (no contract, and service is immediate), and you should get all the legal counsel, and some other services without charge (certified letters, etc). Court fees are at a discounted rate.