No idea what the worlds coming to when I agree with you, but here we are.
You’re wrong a little too though, plenty of pros can use the iPad on its own, and do.
But it truly depends on what you do.
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You’re wrong a little too though, plenty of pros can use the iPad on its own, and do.
But it truly depends on what you do.
So yay? It appeals to the dumbest tech users.
But in my experience these type users aren’t spending 2k on an iPad lol. These are the users who call you up asking for recommendations. What’s your budget? Oh I don’t want to spend much on this. 200? I saw something at Walmart for 250 is that good? A chrome computer or something?
To which I say yep those are great I hear. Good luck. Click.
Perhaps they should start calling iPhone Pro, Mac Pro, iPad Pro - as "Premium" to not confuse things with their "Pro" software applications....
To 90% of iPad and iPad Air users - yes. The kind of person who is buying and iPad Pro is going to have a higher standard of what a "computer" can do.
Supported doesn't mean runs well. We have an Air 2 in the household and it kinda sucks for web browsing. Oh well, it's pretty much just used for Twitch and YouTube anyway.
It's interesting that the chips no longer feature their names on the heat spreaders since the A12Z (now just an Apple logo) I wonder if this was with half an eye on the possibility that the M1 would be used in both devices, but not necessarily be called M1 for the iPads?
iPad Pro 11" and 12.9" start at $800 and $1100 respectively though.
I don't know many average users who will buy the $2K iPad but I know several who'd spend the $1000-1100 for 12.9 solely for screen size (aging eyes and the larger screen is better for large fonts).
No not at all. And I take offence to that actually. Just becuase they don’t fit your idea of a computer user or indeed a pro user, they’re dumb? Get over yourself.
I think the future of iPad Pro is to serve two consumer bases:
1) Artists - even professional artists since an iPad may compete with WaCom tablets
2) Young professionals / students - look at the focus on note taking
Of course, a lot of different people buy it but just judging on where apple is investing resources, I feel like that's my guess.
1) Artists - even professional artists since an iPad may compete with WaCom tablets
2) Young professionals / students - look at the focus on note taking
Of course, a lot of different people buy it but just judging on where apple is investing resources, I feel like that's my guess.
So that 90% are still allowed to by a pro version if they want.
just like most users buy more than they need in a computer no matter what they think they do or whether they think they’re pro or not .
fact of the matter remains, plenty of people buy the pro iPad because of its better features because they will use it professionally. Just because it’s not programming, or Mathematica or they don’t need vms or other mac functions doesn’t mean they’re not a pro who can’t use the iPad as their only machine or as a main machine with a mac to back them up. As I do.
Or the third group- people not stuck in their ways and assume because it doesn’t run a traditional os it can’t do stuff.
Not you necessarily, but I find this such a weird outlook on a tech site - fighting against new different tech which is capable of changing the boundaries of what a computer actually is. I mean, ok if it’s not there yet for you, aren’t you interested in making it?
of course. i personally can afford to use it as my main personal laptop. I think day to day e-mail, photo management, surfing web, content consumption is just so much more enjoyable on my ipad than on my laptop. but i think i can do the same on an ipad air, i just can afford the luxuries of a pro.
Agreed. But can be said of any computer since the beginning of time. I can work Photoshop on a 2006 white MacBook ! I don’t but I could. again, always weird to me how an iPad is thought of differently in this respect.
I would love to see where the iPad goes and am open to new ways of doing things but I just need to accept that it just can't handle all my workflows right now even if I does cost more than a laptop. Just yesterday I tried to download a multiple part zip file from the internet and unzip and copy to iCloud Drive and it was an exercise in frustration.
Interesting…
I just love all the know everything commentary about everyone’s use case on here. I have a pretty powerful set of tools for my work and my new 11” 2TB cellular iPad is a killer new addition to that requirement. I took care of a shoot last night on it that basically paid for the thing in one sitting, mowing through 50mp raw files, uploading to Dropbox with total ease.
It sounds like a lot of you just like to complain and pretend like you know everything about who will use this new device and what for.
But you would be wrong, again…
Hard agree. Trying out an iPad Pro at the moment, and I have 0 interest in some convoluted means of using regular desktop executables on this display etc.
Would I use an iPad app on a Mac? Yea. But MacOS is already too scaled with horribly small icons at times, cannot imagine that **** here.
I want apple to work upwards and add full file system access, a touch UI text editor and terminal, a touch UI Xcode, etc. Not “uhhhh what about xcode ported downward from Mac OS, and an Apple insurance program for the macular degeneration” I do at least agree there is work to be done, the iPad Pro could be 20-40% better. But the R/Apple types clamoring about floating Windows on a 10 to 12 inch display are out of their minds. I mean, why not add an HDMI port, too? Or a USB A port, and make the default interface non-touch like MacOS. Or a - oh, what’s that? iPad sales are down? Strange.
bottom line is Apple iPads are the dominant tablet and Apple is sleeping at thr wheel. This is why you don’t want a dominant player. You want a rival. It helps us the consumer get better products end better software. Android tablets really aren’t competing and their software is even worst than iPad os
I agree that there are people set in there ways that are uninterested in changing them. However, there are just certain tasks that while they could be done in a new way, what is the point if that way is slower and more frustrating than the old way? There are just so many little holes and shortcomings in iOS that one can quickly get frustrated and actually slowed down. It is slowly getting more refined, but at a snails pace with any signficant updates a year apart.
An example - give us the real external monitor support that a lot hoped to see this upgrade. I regularly work on large technical proposals that require Word documents, spreadsheets, project files, diagrams, etc. I need to see more than one document at the same time. I could use a split screen and view both on the same screen and mirror that on an external monitor but that is pretty useless. Give me one window on the external monitor and one on my iPad screen. Not a big stretch as the OS already supports two apps running. Yes I know the old saying about the right tool for the right job and because of all the limitations I am forced to do it on my MBP. But with just a little refinement, I could do a lot more on iPad and only need to use one device instead of two.
The market is thanks to the pandemic much bigger and our age of digitalization makes iPads more usable devices. For example last year when lockdowns started in China there were all iPads sold out. And that is the way Apple is going - better videoconferences, improving multitasking. I think next iPadOS updates will come with more RAM utilization, better management, maybe it is bigger step for Apple than we think and Apple needs 2-3 years to implement it.
But there are comming third party apps that will be able to use power of M1 chipset
Disagree. Nothing has changed (yet). Third party apps are still just as crippled as they were before the M1/iPadOS 15, it’s just it will be more noticeable now due to larger waste of power.
Sure you might be able to have 3 of these ‘pro’ apps at once on the maxed out M1 iPad, but the majority aren’t going to need that or notice it compared to having a single application actually using most of it itself.
It has no future, it’s been years since the Pros have been around and they don’t have a single unique software supported feature, you can get an ipad mini and it basically can do everything a pro can. What a scam.
I think this is kind of harsh. I agree with the part about no unique features for the Pro models, but that doesn't mean it has no future or it is a scam, it is just a higher end model with a bigger screen than a mini. If they called it an iPad Premium it might be more accurate.
The mini does not have a 12.9" display, an important feature for some of us and why we chose the Pro.
You’ve no proof of that statement and given Apple’s hidden nature, there’s every likelihood you’re wrong.
When Apple canned 32 bit support on Catalina, huge numbers of folk were up in arms as to why they were doing this.
Well, now we know - it was due to the M1 chip requirement of Big Sur