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Lloydbm41

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Or some people just don't have a desire to customize the crap out of a phone. I have used android longer than I have used iOS, I will be sticking with iOS because I don't miss anything from android, everything I need, iOS does better
Putting icons where you want and not being forced to have icon after icon in a row is not customizing the crap out of anything. If iOS works for you, great. But don't try and pretend that Android requires any customization to work. If you leave it stock and download apps, they will fill in just like iOS. Sounds to me like you simply need to justify your decision to go to ioS.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Putting icons where you want and not being forced to have icon after icon in a row is not customizing the crap out of anything. If iOS works for you, great. But don't try and pretend that Android requires any customization to work. If you leave it stock and download apps, they will fill in just like iOS. Sounds to me like you simply need to justify your decision to go to ioS.
I very much doubt an operating systems method for icon arrangement is anybody's sole reason for choosing it. You say it sounds like he needs to justify his decision to go to iOS but it was actually somebody else who introduced that particular discussion to this thread.

There are always multiple reasons for choosing a phone, not just a small element of customisation.
 

M5RahuL

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Both ( N5 and iP6s ) are great, although I'm not really enjoying the random stutter/lag on my 6s+ ( running 9.1 B3 ) right now and looking fwd to a quick fix from Apple!

With the iPhone, I simply drop all my apps in one folder. When I need to run an app, swipe left and just type the name ( usually just a couple of letters ) and it's there. Very convinient and clean.

I do miss not having a weather widget, and Siri sucks like a dyson..esp compared to Google Now. Google Maps is also on a whole different level.

Trivial issues aside, both OSes have matured to a point where it basically comes down to what OS you're comfortable using.

I have zero brand loyalty, and love tech...so enjoying both :)
 

MRU

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With the iPhone, I simply drop all my apps in one folder. When I need to run an app, swipe left and just type the name ( usually just a couple of letters ) and it's there. Very convinient and clean.
:)

The left panel with last/frequent used apps and search is very similar in approach to how Google is addressing the App drawer in Android M.

There's a lot of convergence between the two OS'S where the end goal is the same albeit achieved from slightly different starting positions.

The tit for tat arguing back and forth that goes on in these style threads especially on the extremes of each end of the spectrum are really quite embarrassing enditments of human behaviour and fundamentally stupid as they share more in common than not.
 

John Mcgregor

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Compared to my iOS designed for iPod experience that's so limiting and restrictive that I can't even place app icon anywhere on the home screen.

And when supplied with that customisation almost no one uses it. Same goes for android. I played a bit with realized its crap and basically switched back defaults.
 

John Mcgregor

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Compared to my iPhone 6 experience, the Edge+ is a blessing.

Perspective is only accurate when looking in a mirror.

iOS is a better OS. My Galaxy S6 is laggy piece of **** with 8 core CPU and 3 GB of ram and i had to disable every app i can to make battery life acceptable not to mention the lag.
 

Truefan31

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iOS is a better OS. My Galaxy S6 is laggy piece of **** with 8 core CPU and 3 GB of ram and i had to disable every app i can to make battery life acceptable not to mention the lag.

I do wonder how the nexus p will perform. Looks pretty good at a somewhat mid price point. Pure android and marshmallow would I hope make it smooth.

I think skins from android oems always have some kind of effect. Anytime you put something over a base os it can't help but add a level of delay, however minor. But also I'd imagine the bloat carriers throw on these phones don't help either. The amount of carrier bloat on some of the phones are ridiculous, and I appreciate that Apple basically prevents the carriers from doing this.
 

scott craft

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The left panel with last/frequent used apps and search is very similar in approach to how Google is addressing the App drawer in Android M.

There's a lot of convergence between the two OS'S where the end goal is the same albeit achieved from slightly different starting positions.

The tit for tat arguing back and forth that goes on in these style threads especially on the extremes of each end of the spectrum are really quite embarrassing enditments of human behaviour and fundamentally stupid as they share more in common than not.

Agree! This started as a pretty good thread but now it's devolved to a my phone's better mess.
 
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I7guy

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Both ( N5 and iP6s ) are great, although I'm not really enjoying the random stutter/lag on my 6s+ ( running 9.1 B3 ) right now and looking fwd to a quick fix from Apple!

With the iPhone, I simply drop all my apps in one folder. When I need to run an app, swipe left and just type the name ( usually just a couple of letters ) and it's there. Very convinient and clean.

I do miss not having a weather widget, and Siri sucks like a dyson..esp compared to Google Now. Google Maps is also on a whole different level.

Trivial issues aside, both OSes have matured to a point where it basically comes down to what OS you're comfortable using.

I have zero brand loyalty, and love tech...so enjoying both :)
Brand loyalty isn't a bad thing. Using Samsung flat-screen TVs as an example, once upon a time we had one Samsung flat panel TV in the house, now we have 4. Why? Brand loyalty. Even though other manufacturers have surpassed Samsung in certain areas (quality, features, price), we like Samsung flat-screen TVs. Same for iphones. We like them even though other manufacturers have bested apple in certain areas.
 

Zwhaler

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You can't argue with people that believe a row of dead icons is the only way, because they have no choice. They accept what they have and defend Apple's decision to limit their experience.

These are the same people that said the 3.5"phone was perfect. Then said the 4"iPhone was perfect and that if it was any bigger, you couldn't use it with one hand. Then they made fun of the Note series, claiming a stylus and phablet size was idiotic and a crappy experience. Hypocrisy runs rampant in the halls of Appledom.

Lol, this is something I've been subtly trying to convey on this board for years now...
 

I7guy

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You can't argue with people that believe a row of dead icons is the only way, because they have no choice. They accept what they have and defend Apple's decision to limit their experience.

These are the same people that said the 3.5"phone was perfect. Then said the 4"iPhone was perfect and that if it was any bigger, you couldn't use it with one hand. Then they made fun of the Note series, claiming a stylus and phablet size was idiotic and a crappy experience. Hypocrisy runs rampant in the halls of Appledom.
You mean similar to some of the back-pedaling that went on went Samsung removed the "removable battery" and "sd card". Two "critical" features for Sansung devices.
 
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sc4rf4c3

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You mean similar to some of the back-pedaling that went on went Samsung removed the "removable battery" and "sd card". Two "critical" features for Sansung devices.

As far as I know most S6 or Note 5 users would still prefer the removable battery and sd card. I personally would love to have those two Samsung features back with at least the next Note 6.
 

I7guy

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As far as I know most S6 or Note 5 users would still prefer the removable battery and sd card. I personally would love to have those two Samsung features back with at least the next Note 6.
I liked having a removable battery on my BB along with the SD card. I also liked the notification light. However, it seems the batter and SD card features are counter to a slim device. (Or they just add to the cost, not sure which) As far as the notification light, I would like one on the iphone, but it's not a deal breaker by any means.
 

FFR

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I liked having a removable battery on my BB along with the SD card. I also liked the notification light. However, it seems the batter and SD card features are counter to a slim device. (Or they just add to the cost, not sure which) As far as the notification light, I would like one on the iphone, but it's not a deal breaker by any means.

I used to want a notification light on my iPhone, until I got an Apple Watch.
It even has the little red light ;)
 
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mrex

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Ugh, I know. I'd much rather be customizing my phone and choosing precisely where an apps goes rather than using it and getting stuff done... /s

Would i just have the screen full of icons rather than using all that size and billions pixels on the screen showing some actual and useful things too? Uhm, no?
 

MRU

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Was climbing mountains today. Will post some pics later taken on the edge +.

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jamezr

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The solution outweighed the cost. :)
Yeah for you and Apple. They could add a notification light to the iphone ( there is enough space in the bezels for it) and it would probably cost less than a dollar to do. But instead they get people to buy a $700 watch.
 

FFR

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Yeah for you and Apple. They could add a notification light to the iphone ( there is enough space in the bezels for it) and it would probably cost less than a dollar to do. But instead they get people to buy a $700 watch.

Yeah they could, but they didn't.
Judging by the 13 million iPhone 6s/plus sold in just three days, doesn't look like like your opinion holds much sway.

The Apple Watch has much more utility for me than just a notification light, but I love technology. Started in the 90's with the psion and Microsoft pda wars, before palm came in and disrupted the pda market.
 

jamezr

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Yeah they could, but they didn't.
Judging by the 13 million iPhone 6s/plus sold in just three days, doesn't look like like your opinion holds much sway.

The Apple Watch has much more utility for me than just a notification light, but I love technology. Started in the 90's with the psion and Microsoft pda wars, before palm came in and disrupted the pda market.
Just because the iphone is selling extremely well does not mean it could not use features users would not find useful. If sales were a the deciding factor of whether to add features to the iphone...then we would still have the iphone of 2007. If that were the case we would not see improvements and features added model after model.
The PDA comparisons do not apply to a notification light.
 

FFR

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Just because the iphone is selling extremely well does not mean it could not use features users would not find useful. If sales were a the deciding factor of whether to add features to the iphone...then we would still have the iphone of 2007. If that were the case we would not see improvements and features added model after model.
The PDA comparisons do not apply to a notification light.

No, but the phone selling extremely well without an led justifies that it is not a requirement for a majority of consumers, you included.

Sales is a factor of giving consumers what they want. The noticeable increase in sales would suggest that the omission of an led light for notification did not deter consumers from purchasing an iPhone 6s/plus, in fact many are heralding apples success as record breaking. Regarding features, Apple adds features at their discretion. They do offer a solution in the Apple Watch, if that doesn't work for you, I believe Apple could care less, you already purchased their phone.

Actually the pda's all had notification lights :).
 

jamezr

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No, but the phone selling extremely well without an led justifies that it is not a requirement for a majority of consumers, you included.
So using your logic......

Then iphone buying public doesn't need 3D Touch or even Touch ID....the the models that didn't have those features sold extremely well. So I guess going forward the iphone does not need any additional features because it is selling so well as it is. See how flawed that logic is? The iphone 6 didn't need a larger screen then huh?
No one is saying the lack of a notification light is hurting iphone sales. I am an iphone buyer and would love to have a notification light.
Why would you be against a useful feature? It makes no senses to me.
If you have no use for it.....great. But others would love to have the feature.
 
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