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LIVEFRMNYC

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Not going to bite if it doesn't have the 64gb or 128gb options. And if they keep it at 4gb ram, I'll just stay with the S7 edge.

Now if the 6gb ram and 64/128gb options are true, then I'm sold.
 

tbayrgs

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Not going to bite if it doesn't have the 64gb or 128gb options. And if they keep it at 4gb ram, I'll just stay with the S7 edge.

Now if the 6gb ram and 64/128gb options are true, then I'm sold.

What do you use your phone for that requires that much RAM and internal storage?

Not trolling, serious question, genuinely curious. I keep seeing everyone stating they are ecstatic with the speed and performance of the S7 edge and yet to come across a claim stating its RAM is insufficient for xyz task. What does the extra RAM afford that can't be done now?
 

jamezr

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I believe the rumors of 6GB of ram. But I think storage wise they will follow last years options of 32 and 64GBs with SD Cards as well. I don't see them adding a 128GB. With SD Cards....don't see a need for 1289GB tbh.....
 
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Fernandez21

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What do you use your phone for that requires that much RAM and internal storage?

Not trolling, serious question, genuinely curious. I keep seeing everyone stating they are ecstatic with the speed and performance of the S7 edge and yet to come across a claim stating its RAM is insufficient for xyz task. What does the extra RAM afford that can't be done now?
I thinks it's mostly to justify the cost of upgrading from the S7 to Note6. More ram would be nice, but main thing I need to upgrade to a Note 6 from my S7 Edge is 64gb storage. The games I play the most are classics through emulators, and those aren't well optimized so I need to store the roms on the built in storage to eek out as much performance as I can. And while games from the cartridge era don't take up to much space, games from the cd era on can be several gbs. And now that these phones are powerful enough that Saturn and PSX emulators are running fairly smooth I need more built in storage than ever.

After storage, the cpu/gpu combo are second on my upgrade wishlist. As long as those 2 come true, the rest is gravy for me, and if the rumors are true it's going to be a lot of gravy.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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What do you use your phone for that requires that much RAM and internal storage?

Not trolling, serious question, genuinely curious. I keep seeing everyone stating they are ecstatic with the speed and performance of the S7 edge and yet to come across a claim stating its RAM is insufficient for xyz task. What does the extra RAM afford that can't be done now?

As far as Storage. The Oculus apps and it's content take up a lot of space. Thankfully, I can still keep VR videos on my storage card. Then you have those games that download extra large content after initial download(ex: NFS MW). Those games simply are not written to move the data to storage card even though the option under TW settings is there. Also there are some Camera options which uses the internal storage instead of the storage. Like RAW images for example. Those are easy to move though. At the moment, I have 9.6gb left. So I feel like 32gb is cutting it too close. I rather have 64gb or 128gb that's damn near completely worry free.

As far as RAM, I have no issues at all with the RAM usage on my S7 edge. It's just one less reason to upgrade, if it remains the same on the Note 6.
 

spinedoc77

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Samsung also made the bone headed move to not allow you to merge your internal and external memory, one of the key features of Marshmallow. That may make it necessary to have a larger internal drive if your apps take a lot of space.
 

nj-morris

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Samsung also made the bone headed move to not allow you to merge your internal and external memory, one of the key features of Marshmallow. That may make it necessary to have a larger internal drive if your apps take a lot of space.

I've realised that next to no features that Google released with Marshmallow weren't included in Samsung's take. Pretty damn annoying.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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Samsung also made the bone headed move to not allow you to merge your internal and external memory, one of the key features of Marshmallow. That may make it necessary to have a larger internal drive if your apps take a lot of space.

That was actually a good decision on their part. There would be too much issues with it for the average user. It would require moving folders/files around, and speed would degrade. More advance users can still enable it without root, so it's not a big deal.
 

jamezr

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That was actually a good decision on their part. There would be too much issues with it for the average user. It would require moving folders/files around, and speed would degrade. More advance users can still enable it without root, so it's not a big deal.
Yep that was my take on it too. It is fairly simple to get it enabled. But would be a headache for an average user who buys a slow sd card then complains about lag and slowness.
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I've realised that next to no features that Google released with Marshmallow weren't included in Samsung's take. Pretty damn annoying.
yeah but some would not fit with the current feature set too. Then TW.... like it or not adds so many features that stock Marshmallow doesn't have as well. Want stock Android and features....buy a Nexus.
 

spinedoc77

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That was actually a good decision on their part. There would be too much issues with it for the average user. It would require moving folders/files around, and speed would degrade. More advance users can still enable it without root, so it's not a big deal.

Nah, I'm not big on dumbing the consumer down. Apple has done way too much dumbing down, and Android as well. Give me the option at least and let me decide to use it or not. It's not rocket science, just put up a disclaimer whenever someone attempts to do it so they can read the possible pitfalls.
 

jamezr

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Nah, I'm not big on dumbing the consumer down. Apple has done way too much dumbing down, and Android as well. Give me the option at least and let me decide to use it or not. It's not rocket science, just put up a disclaimer whenever someone attempts to do it so they can read the possible pitfalls.
I am not sure....put up all the disclaimer you want but no one reads them let alone adheres to them. How does adoptable storage handle replacing sd cards? What if they used an 32GB sd card then runs out of space? Now they bought a new 128GB and wants to upgrade? How does that work? Are they hot swappable? Do they have to go through a whole wipe and factory reset? This is not something for the average user.....
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Nah, I'm not big on dumbing the consumer down. Apple has done way too much dumbing down, and Android as well. Give me the option at least and let me decide to use it or not. It's not rocket science, just put up a disclaimer whenever someone attempts to do it so they can read the possible pitfalls.

I don't think it was a dumbing down move. Too many apps, especially games with large data downloads, are not written to take advantage of adoptable storage. Samsung is not the only one doing this, count LG, Sony, and etc in as well.

Making any mistake or trying to manipulate app's data locations can corrupt or ruin the entire Android/data folder in the internal storage which would make a large amount of apps installed broken or forced to reinstall data, leading in lost data. I know first hand as I experimented on a friend's Nvidia Shield. Too many apps are just stubborn at the moment.
 

MRU

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As far as Storage. The Oculus apps and it's content take up a lot of space. 6.


When I downloaded some oculus content on my S7e it asked for permission to access/write to SD. So a lot of my app data downloaded is already on my SD card from oculus ...
 

nj-morris

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yeah but some would not fit with the current feature set too. Then TW.... like it or not adds so many features that stock Marshmallow doesn't have as well. Want stock Android and features....buy a Nexus.

I get that. I just would have liked some of the features that stock Marshmallow has. Like the landscape homescreen.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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When I downloaded some oculus content on my S7e it asked for permission to access/write to SD. So a lot of my app data downloaded is already on my SD card from oculus ...

That doesn't guarantee it's writing anything to the Sd storage. Although some Oculus apps do, it's mostly cache or save files, not large amounts of the actual app data. Oculus most likely sets developer rules for that, to keep performance in check.
 

jamezr

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I get that. I just would have liked some of the features that stock Marshmallow has. Like the landscape homescreen.
thats fair.....I just think Tw offers so many more features than stock does.
 

MRU

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That doesn't guarantee it's writing anything to the Sd storage. Although some Oculus apps do, it's mostly cache or save files, not large amounts of the actual app data. Oculus most likely sets developer rules for that, to keep performance in check.
You're right. Just went into application manager and the apps are on internal storage.
 

spinedoc77

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I am not sure....put up all the disclaimer you want but no one reads them let alone adheres to them. How does adoptable storage handle replacing sd cards? What if they used an 32GB sd card then runs out of space? Now they bought a new 128GB and wants to upgrade? How does that work? Are they hot swappable? Do they have to go through a whole wipe and factory reset? This is not something for the average user.....

I don't think it was a dumbing down move. Too many apps, especially games with large data downloads, are not written to take advantage of adoptable storage. Samsung is not the only one doing this, count LG, Sony, and etc in as well.

Making any mistake or trying to manipulate app's data locations can corrupt or ruin the entire Android/data folder in the internal storage which would make a large amount of apps installed broken or forced to reinstall data, leading in lost data. I know first hand as I experimented on a friend's Nvidia Shield. Too many apps are just stubborn at the moment.

Yeah I see your points. Maybe if Samsung allowed it in advanced settings or something. It just bums me out because it's something I would find VERY useful. But a quick glance on Google looks like it's easily enabled on Samsung phones anyhow.
 

Twixt

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I know it's still early but....considering how great the S7 is. I can't wait for the Note 6!

Some rumors have said an early release in July?
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/03/22...red-to-arrive-in-july-with-android-n-onboard/

Rumors so far suggest
Display to be 5.8 slim bezels
32GB UFS 2.0 internal storage,
two different SoCs Snapdragon and Exynos
12-megapixel rear camera with Super OIS and same great low light camera as the S7 line.
SD Card
Wireless charging
Waterproofing (IP68 Certified)

What did I miss?



http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/15...oint-at-5-8-inch-slim-rgb-display-6gb-of-ram/

Add a removable battery and I will buy two Note 6. No battery swap and I will buy another Note 4...
 
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nj-morris

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That's not going too happen I can in sure you that the removable battery days for high end smart phone. From Samsung are over

Never say never. LG found a way around it. On the other hand, fast charging technology is probably the way to go at the moment.
 
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macfacts

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I get that. I just would have liked some of the features that stock Marshmallow has. Like the landscape homescreen.

I'm on 4.4 Kitkat and have that feature. Just download the Google Now Launcher from the Play Store and in the settings for the launcher, enable "allow rotation" option. On KitKat !!
 
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