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Privacy concerns? OMG .... I don't want anyone sharing my dew point info.
Yeah, no need to be sarcastic. If they are allowed to access weather data then obviously they would have to access location data, and why would anyone want to location of their device being sent 24/7 to Google?
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Yeah, no need to be sarcastic. If they are allowed to access weather data then obviously they would have to access location data, and why would anyone want to location of their device being sent 24/7 to Google?
Here's why
iPhone
-Hardware Made by = Apple
-Software Made by = Apple
Z10
-Hardware Made by = BlackBerry
-Software Made by = BlackBerry
S4
-Hardware Made by = Samsung
-Software Made by = Google
How does that last one make any sense?
That is why I don't like Windows either, software and hardware made by different companies. How are you supposed to innovate when two different companies area making it?
Considering both Apple and RIM haven't innovated a single thing in the last few years, nor do either have significant worldwide market share, it would appear the last one makes more sense.
Ironically, Microsoft and PC makers have differing software and hardware, yet that combination dwarfs Macs, Ubuntu and Linux machines, combined!
You don't have to make both hardware and software for your devices to be successful. You just need to be able to integrate the two effectively. Samsung has done that.
Oh, and before you give the normal drivel about Apple making a premium $ on the poor souls that buy into the hype, here is a stat that is gonna make Apple very jealous. The S4 is gonna bring Samsung a 60% profit per S4 sold (those that use the octacore chip). Those with Qualcomm will give them slightly less, but still more than what Apple gets per iPhone. There is a very nice article in Forbes.com today talking about this and why Samsung is beating Apple at its own game.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...res_apple_and_samsung_have_the_whole_pie.html
Samsung has some work to do......
Also:
http://bgr.com/2013/04/05/samsung-galaxy-s4-sales-estimates-414846/
So the GS4's profit margin estimates will be 2% LOWER than the GS3.....and Apple was already spanking them in profit margins.
And again: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/01/25/apples-iphone-grew-to-251-global-market-share-in-2012
Apple is doing just fine - and will likely continue to put out the most sold smartphone each year. You can continue to call all those people "sheep" but I'd suggest looking in the mirror.....Samsung's gots its own little herd forming.
Personally, I've got my iP5 (love it), my Nexus 4 (love it) and really looking forward to the HTC One. It's good to have options!
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I concur and so did Samsung. The S4 will be their first product (I believe anyway) that will bring them in significant $$$$ per device sold. Up until now, I don't know if they got much more than ⅓ per device. It will be interesting to see how much profit share they bring in the quarter following the release of the S4?
By the way, profit share ≠ shareholder profit, as you can see from the hit in stock price Apple has taken. As a stock owner, I would be pissed if I lost 40% of a $100,000+ investment portfolio.
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I never used the word sheep, or iFan, or whatever word you want to use!
And you may believe Apple is doing fine, and should stay the course, but then why did they put out a cheap iPad? Why are they making a cheap, plastic iPhone? Why did they pull Google products off the app store, then cower in humiliation when their software sucked so bad, they were forced to add Google products back? Why fire several of your department heads, that were continuing to regurgitate the same crap, year after year?
Apple isn't doing fine. They know it and they are trying to right the ship.
P.S. Here is the article in Forbes: forbes.com/sites/haydnshaughnessy/2013/04/12/these-3-game-changers-define-the-apple-vs-samsung-battle/
Excerpt from article
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Prediction that Android tablets will outsell iOS tablets this year.
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/mo...le-and-android-tablets-research-shows-1144314
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/mo...le-and-android-tablets-research-shows-1144314
LOL, you're so off-base it's not funny. Market share means nothing. You mention yourself the PC industry and how Macs hold a tiny market share. Did you know that they lead the industry in terms of profit? The 90% almost went broke competing on razor thin margins to the point they weren't breaking even anymore. Apple was the only PC company making a decent profit.
In market share, yes Samsung has a lead. Want to know why? Because of this. Most of these bring in very little profit. Only their premium phones (S3, S4, Note 2, etc.) do and those are but a tiny fraction of their overall sales. As with PCs, in profit terms, Apple still leads by a very wide margin.
In the Android space, I'm personally rooting for HTC. The new One is just fantastic. Hopefully they will succeed at being noticed because the phone is by far the best Android phone I've seen. Much better than the junk Samsung puts out IMO.
Because they are not Apple fanboys?
My iPhone already sent a bazillion bytes to Apple HQ already (found out last month to turn off those sneaky settings in privacy that are ON by default), it already sends that info to my carrier and what not. What do i have to hide from Google that i happily give to my blood sucking carrier and also Apple "the holy" Inc. ?
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That means both RIM and Apple make lousy phones. How can they innovate when two different companies are involved in the calling business (my carrier and the phone maker)?
From now on i will demand the best. Rogers better start manufacturing their own cellphones so they can innovate.
Sure - the exact wording was along the same lines - essentially we are all duped by Apple into purchasing what they put out.....couldn't possibly be on the merit of the devices themselves?
Let's take this step by step:
(1) Apple doesn't release products on the fly - they release the mini last October, it was likely in production for years before. Overreaction to think a supply chain that large (however streamlined it may be) can create a reactionary product like that.
(2) Apple didn't pull Google apps from their store - simply stopped giving their chief OS competitor iOS user data (by not including such apps by default). There were also other issues regarding control over the maps api and such that Apple wanted and Google wasn't willing to give up. It was the right move for both sides IMO.
(3) How many department heads were fired? Forstall was pushed out yes - there were internal power struggles between two dissenting views on how iOS should progress - the more powerful won out (Ive). Definitely a good thing IMO.
They just came off their most profitable/successful quarter ever and one that saw Apple at the top of market share for the first time (Samsung had led every quarter since 2008). They make some changes, and are prepared for another HUGE year - so because their stock price takes hits (based on crazy predictions/sketchy analyst projections) they're doomed?
Laughable.
Meh - lots of opinion there.....I prefer numbers/facts. They are:
The iPhone 5 took the top spot in WORLD market share for Q4 last year. Apple is number 2 in the world (and number 1 in the US) despite having a VASTLY smaller product line. Apple currently owns 70+% of smartphone profits and is coming off their most successful quarter ever. They have also sold more than twice as many iPhone (4, 4S and 5) than Samsung has sold of its entire Galaxy line (S, S2, S3, Note, Note 2).
I'll reiterate......Apple is fine. They know what they're doing. You don't luck into $150 billion in cash.....
They are poised to have a massive 2013 with the iWatch, iPhone 5S, retina iPad mini, Mac Pro, Haswell MBA's and possibly a cheaper iPhone and larger iPhone (both of which I believe are coming, though maybe not this year). They are on the brink of offering a much more streamlined product catalog (IMO, moving to a three iPhone lineup without generational monikers would put it in line with the rest of their products while also offering more upgrades each year for consumers).
Personally, I think Apple is in a great place actually - not to say Samsung isn't as well. But 2013 won't be the year Apple tanks - it will be the year Apple reiterates they are a force in the technology world.
No it doesn't, how does a carrier change anything?
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Well if Apple and RIM haven't (They have) then Samsung hasn't at all! Btw I wonder why if Apple and BB are no good does the US government use BlackBerry Z10 and iOS devices and not android?
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Thank-you! Very true! Yes I agree, I like the HTC way better than that Samsung junk
Uhhh, look at your signature. Nuf said.
In production for years, huh? Guess Steve Jobs being adamant about 7" tablets wearing fingers down to the bone was just lies for the public. And we know Steve would never put a product out that would make him look stupid. And by the way, why do you believe the Mini would have taken years. It used old parts that Apple already had and there was zero innovation required for either the hardware or the software.
And of course, you failed to mention the upcoming cheap, plastic iPhone. So, Apple doesn't react to the market and do products on the fly? Laughable thought.
Guess we were all living in a dream?
gigaom.com/2012/12/12/now-with-turn-by-turn-navigation-google-maps-returns-to-ios/
Forstall was fired. I love how you try to sugar coat it, by saying "pushed out". Dude, he was fired. And Eddie Cue fired Richard Williamson (another Senior Director) after the iMaps fiassco. Oh, excuse me, "pushed out".
Twist figures much? Apple was top of the market share in the US only. Samsung sells twice as many smart phones as Apple every quarter WORLDWIDE! I know you want to believe the U.S. is the world, but it isn't. Sorry.
And Apple Profits YoY were stagnant. $13.1b for Q1 2012 and Q1 2013? No change. Not sure where you are getting your stats? They did sell more iPhones during the holidays, but the majority were the older 4S and free 4 models, according to analysts. (Apple refused to give iPhone 5 sales numbers, so analysts had to go by sales data and inventory.) Rest assured, if the 5 had been a blckbuster, Apple would have touted those figures, just like they did when the 5 was officially released in the US and in China.
Really? Your posts seem to contradict this statement. From your very own bgr link above. Quote:
***We estimate that, while 53% of Galaxy S3 BOM cost was internal, 58% of Galaxy S4 BOM costs should now flow through Display/Semis (Memory & S.LSI), Newman wrote. We estimate that, while 64% of Galaxy S3 BOM cost was within the Samsung Group (i.e. SEMCO, Samsung SDI, etc.), 68% of Galaxy S4 BOM costs should now flow through the Samsung Group. Additional profits to Samsung group entities should benefit Samsung Electronics in the form of increased equity income.
The analyst estimates that Samsungs gross profit margin for the Galaxy S4 will be 46% compared to the Galaxy S IIIs 48% margin. We believe the Galaxy S4 positions Samsung Electronics for continued strong earnings growth this year, Newman wrote.***
Please show any proof from Apple where they give a specific number for iphone5 sales. iPhone5 is believed to be the top selling phone for Q4 (which is Apple's Q1 BTW) by ANALYSTS. Wait, didn't you say you preferred numbers/facts over opinions? Or is that true only when those opinions suit you?
REALLY? Since Jobs return in 97, have you seen this sort of rush to market of products, software failures, senior directors fired, lack of innovation??? There is only one thing that has changed in the equation. No Steve Jobs running that ship. And as RIM and Nokia have found out, resting on laurels will only last so long.
iWatch (lol) More of Apple doing a "me too" product (just like Samsung). Apple was stupid! They had the market cornered with the Nano becoming the iWatch. They blew off Pebble, when they went to them, saying there was no market for a smart watch. Now, all of a sudden they have interest, cause Pebble showed how wrong they were.
iPhone5S will hit the ground with a thud. Why buy the 5S, when it will be nothing more than a 5. Look at Apple's historical data on S releases.
And Mac's are stagnating along with PC sales. Last quarter Apple sold 20% fewer Mac's than the previous quarter (even after refreshes.)
Buckle up for this coming Quarterly report from Apple. I know I am gonna enjoy it.
I think "design" is a more appropriate word. If we are using the word "made" then Samsung would lead that lot with its touchwiz overlay because Samsung accurately MAKES both the hardware and software. Android is so heavily modified on a Samsung device it shares as much in common with iOS as it does Android. That's an exaggeration but the use of the play store is the only thing keeping Android on Samsung devices.
The main thing all those phones you listed have in common is they are filled with Samsung (and other manufacture) parts.
Personally I think the point is a little silly. It's also the difference between a closed and open system which could be debated until the end of time.
I wouldn't say its necessarily a good thing giving too much control to a single entity either. An iPhone requires Apple servers to be functional. If apple disappeared tomorrow an iPhone would be near worthless.
Apple servers are required for activation, Siri, visual voicemail, iCloud, even the use of ANY wifi network requires you connect to apple first so no apple no wifi. These are the servers I've had issues with since owning an iPhone btw.
Not saying Android phone won't suffer with out Google but it will certainly be at a lesser degree.
US govt has almost completely dropped Blackberries from the inventory. You might want to stop looking at data from 2009. In fact, the very last Blackberry was turned in where I work just last month. Not a single RIM product left in any inventory. iPhone have replaced the Blackberries in this particular instance, simply because they are being used as regular phones with no alterations in hardware or software required. Android phones are used in those cases.
And the government and military use both Android and iOS. Anything requiring modification to software are automatically given to an Android vendor, because Apple refuses to give the government access to the base code.
You are way out of your element discussing what the US gov't uses.
Uhhh, look at your signature. Nuf said.
In production for years, huh? Guess Steve Jobs being adamant about 7" tablets wearing fingers down to the bone was just lies for the public. And we know Steve would never put a product out that would make him look stupid. And by the way, why do you believe the Mini would have taken years. It used old parts that Apple already had and there was zero innovation required for either the hardware or the software.
And of course, you failed to mention the upcoming cheap, plastic iPhone. So, Apple doesn't react to the market and do products on the fly? Laughable thought.
Guess we were all living in a dream?
gigaom.com/2012/12/12/now-with-turn-by-turn-navigation-google-maps-returns-to-ios/
Forstall was fired. I love how you try to sugar coat it, by saying "pushed out". Dude, he was fired. And Eddie Cue fired Richard Williamson (another Senior Director) after the iMaps fiassco. Oh, excuse me, "pushed out".
Twist figures much? Apple was top of the market share in the US only. Samsung sells twice as many smart phones as Apple every quarter WORLDWIDE! I know you want to believe the U.S. is the world, but it isn't. Sorry.
And Apple Profits YoY were stagnant. $13.1b for Q1 2012 and Q1 2013? No change. Not sure where you are getting your stats? They did sell more iPhones during the holidays, but the majority were the older 4S and free 4 models, according to analysts. (Apple refused to give iPhone 5 sales numbers, so analysts had to go by sales data and inventory.) Rest assured, if the 5 had been a blckbuster, Apple would have touted those figures, just like they did when the 5 was officially released in the US and in China.
Really? Your posts seem to contradict this statement. From your very own bgr link above. Quote:
***We estimate that, while 53% of Galaxy S3 BOM cost was internal, 58% of Galaxy S4 BOM costs should now flow through Display/Semis (Memory & S.LSI),” Newman wrote. “We estimate that, while 64% of Galaxy S3 BOM cost was within the Samsung Group (i.e. SEMCO, Samsung SDI, etc.), 68% of Galaxy S4 BOM costs should now flow through the Samsung Group. Additional profits to Samsung group entities should benefit Samsung Electronics in the form of increased equity income.”
The analyst estimates that Samsung’s gross profit margin for the Galaxy S4 will be 46% compared to the Galaxy S III’s 48% margin. “We believe the Galaxy S4 positions Samsung Electronics for continued strong earnings growth this year,” Newman wrote.***
Please show any proof from Apple where they give a specific number for iphone5 sales. iPhone5 is believed to be the top selling phone for Q4 (which is Apple's Q1 BTW) by ANALYSTS. Wait, didn't you say you preferred numbers/facts over opinions? Or is that true only when those opinions suit you?
REALLY? Since Jobs return in 97, have you seen this sort of rush to market of products, software failures, senior directors fired, lack of innovation??? There is only one thing that has changed in the equation. No Steve Jobs running that ship. And as RIM and Nokia have found out, resting on laurels will only last so long.
iWatch (lol) More of Apple doing a "me too" product (just like Samsung). Apple was stupid! They had the market cornered with the Nano becoming the iWatch. They blew off Pebble, when they went to them, saying there was no market for a smart watch. Now, all of a sudden they have interest, cause Pebble showed how wrong they were.
iPhone5S will hit the ground with a thud. Why buy the 5S, when it will be nothing more than a 5. Look at Apple's historical data on S releases.
And Mac's are stagnating along with PC sales. Last quarter Apple sold 20% fewer Mac's than the previous quarter (even after refreshes.)
Buckle up for this coming Quarterly report from Apple. I know I am gonna enjoy it.
Lol....I don't think I'll ever understand this desire to see Apple fail....not sure what they did to you but ok pal.
Take my no comment as a win. Good for you, I'll continue to purchase and choose the devices I prefer - there's simply no reason to try and argue or justify my decision with someone like you.
Have a happy life
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This depends on agency. NSA has a locked down version of Android for high security phones. My old roommate could only use Blackberry as a work phone not iOS, Android or Windows. I can't carry any phone on certain places of APG. My iPhone is locked in a safe guarded by an MP.
The main and ONLY reason Blackberry was so popular on the proving grounds where I occasionally work is because you could get a smartphone without a camera which is HIGHLY restricted (camera). Not because it was hacker proof or some BS.
Wow, a the first good post on this thread, I am sure there are more, but yours is the first. You bring up many valid points, but as said in the other quote, how accurate will these be, and secondly, the battery. It is going to suffer, and maybe make it worse than the iPhone 5's life.
Ok, I agree with your marketing and the fact Samsung cater to the Minority and give them a big quantity of features, and this marketing works. BUT so does Apple's. Apple's is to leave features out, add them later and people will buy both. Or to virtually copy others and market it as their innovation is at the forefront, yeah, with Steve Job's this "brand new innovation", was exactly that. But Apple is copying features now, and soon they will have 9 sensors and say no other phone has had this many. People like you (not you), will cough it down and buy the phone. For example, pararama mode, was on android for ages, then Apple made it and it is some how revolutionary. Same with photosphere, you will say that is stupid, nek minnit, Apple makes one and you buy it.
Lol....I don't think I'll ever understand this desire to see Apple fail....not sure what they did to you but ok pal.
Take my no comment as a win. Good for you, I'll continue to purchase and choose the devices I prefer - there's simply no reason to try and argue or justify my decision with someone like you.
Have a happy life
Has nothing to do with you. I don't care what you use. You posting made up, contradictory and opinion based comments as facts is what bothers me.
And I don't want to see Apple fail. I want to see them adjust their snobby attitude and start innovating again, not give us the same repackaged crap year after year and claim its new and amazing. The iPhone 3gs, iPhone 4s and soon to be 5s are exactly what I am referring to.
I agree. Personally, I am looking forward to a device with temp, humidity and a barometerWhy did this stop being about the sensors!
When all fails..... Use the profit margin card
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Agree, its getting annoying how threads are going down the hill lately specially in the "news and rumor" subforum and the alternative forum is following the trend.
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Why did this stop being about the sensors!
Agree, its getting annoying how threads are going down the hill lately specially in the "news and rumor" subforum and the alternative forum is following the trend.
When all fails..... Use the profit margin card
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Agree, its getting annoying how threads are going down the hill lately specially in the "news and rumor" subforum and the alternative forum is following the trend.
Everything either turns into Apple v Android bashing or Samsung GS4 v every other android device (which of course must suck because of the god like status people have given the gs4 unless the other device is also made by Samung in which case its great, just not as great) .....
Any we digress....
People will undoubtably predict a lot of these software and hardware features such as humidity sensors are gimmicks but I imagine in another generation or two they will be common place even in mid to low end devices. Its just a case the first to carry them may not find an audience for them until a few generations in.
I'm still at a loss why people think it is a bad idea to include these extra features. If you don't use them, either switch them off, just ignore them or don't buy the phone. I haven't seen one post that explains why having these features makes the phone work worse than if they were not installed.
Who sets the standard for "if something is useful or not"?
I have heard the phrase "throwing features against the wall to see what sticks" on numerous occasions on this board. Well, I would rather a company do that, than decide for themselves whats gonna stick or not without even trying, and then include them 2 years later when those features have become the norm on other manufacturers devices.
Who sets the standard for "if something is useful or not"?
I have heard the phrase "throwing features against the wall to see what sticks" on numerous occasions on this board. Well, I would rather a company do that, than decide for themselves whats gonna stick or not without even trying, and then include them 2 years later when those features have become the norm on other manufacturers devices.
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