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cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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2,156
Stop me if I'm wrong, but aren't there phones out with the majority of these sensors already? Here in Japan I have seen them for years. What is innovative about this?

A lot of people don't realize that some devices already have a lot of these sensors already. The Xoom for example has a barometer and that came out prior to the iPad 2. The S3 has a barometer too.

As far as I'm aware temp, psychrometer and barometer in a smartphone is new. But I could be wrong obviously.
 

Markyboy81

macrumors 6502a
Oct 30, 2011
514
0
A lot of people don't realize that some devices already have a lot of these sensors already. The Xoom for example has a barometer and that came out prior to the iPad 2. The S3 has a barometer too.

As far as I'm aware temp, psychrometer and barometer in a smartphone is new. But I could be wrong obviously.

What's a psychrometer?
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
What's a psychrometer?

measures heat index as opposed to just temperature, and does so by the difference between two thermometers. It allows you tell humidity and air moisture content.



It also tells you if your approaching Bates Motel or have any chance of strange encounters in a shower...
psycho_1.jpg
 

Markyboy81

macrumors 6502a
Oct 30, 2011
514
0
measures heat index as opposed to just temperature, and does so by the difference between two thermometers. It allows you tell humidity and air moisture content.



It also tells you if your approaching Bates Motel or have any chance of strange encounters in a shower...
psycho_1.jpg

Haha could be useful then. However I welcome such encounters..
 

adnbek

macrumors 68000
Oct 22, 2011
1,584
551
Montreal, Quebec
When all fails..... Use the profit margin card.

If discussions stuck to simply discussing the merits or faults of a phone and didn't always end up devolving into a slew of "Apple is failing" or "Apple is doomed" comments, I doubt profit margins would be brought up as much.
 

AppleDeviceUser

macrumors 6502
Jan 7, 2012
492
10
Canada
US govt has almost completely dropped Blackberries from the inventory. You might want to stop looking at data from 2009. In fact, the very last Blackberry was turned in where I work just last month. Not a single RIM product left in any inventory. iPhone have replaced the Blackberries in this particular instance, simply because they are being used as regular phones with no alterations in hardware or software required. Android phones are used in those cases.

And the government and military use both Android and iOS. Anything requiring modification to software are automatically given to an Android vendor, because Apple refuses to give the government access to the base code.

You are way out of your element discussing what the US gov't uses.

I happen to know that the US department of defence ordered 1 million Blackberry Z10s. Maybe you should do some research before you post.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
I happen to know that the US department of defence ordered 1 million Blackberry Z10s. Maybe you should do some research before you post.

1 MILLION?!?!

Do you have any reliable source for that because that sounds like BS. Why would they order 1 million for a lot of 3-3.5 million? 750k are civilians and 1.1 are in reserves. Around 1.5 active duty military and they gave 1 million brand new phones?

Never mind the 300-500 MILLION dollar price tag with that at a discount.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Has nothing to do with you. I don't care what you use. You posting made up, contradictory and opinion based comments as facts is what bothers me.

And I don't want to see Apple fail. I want to see them adjust their snobby attitude and start innovating again, not give us the same repackaged crap year after year and claim its new and amazing. The iPhone 3gs, iPhone 4s and soon to be 5s are exactly what I am referring to.

*sigh*

Nothing false or contradictory about my post.

Apple is either first or second in market share across the globe - first in the US and second overall (by about a 10-15% margin).

They own almost 75% of profit share and for the first time last quarter, they knocked Samsung out of the top market share spot IN THE US (I know you got on to me for inadvertently leaving that out).

Those are all true statements. I haven't seen any innovation from ANYONE since 2010.....maybe we are due for some, but I'm not of the mind we need to see some major advancement/innovation every year. Consumers have been spoiled by the rapid progression of mobile tech - which has only increased the generally fickle nature of the buying public.

I hope you get what you want - though there are plenty of options out there if you can't stand Apple's "snobby" attitude.....though I would suggest being wary of Samsung as well.....just look at some of the claims made by this sensor article - I'm sorry, but I'm sure my relationships will be just fine without a Galaxy phone....
 

Assault

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2013
513
0
in the taint
1 MILLION?!?!

Do you have any reliable source for that because that sounds like BS. Why would they order 1 million for a lot of 3-3.5 million? 750k are civilians and 1.1 are in reserves. Around 1.5 active duty military and they gave 1 million brand new phones?

Never mind the 300-500 MILLION dollar price tag with that at a discount.

They didn't. DoD was looking to contract out 650k new phones for delivery over the next few years (to replace all the Blackberries they dumped back to RIM), but that entire order never materialized, primarily due to sequestration. No money = no new contract. Whatever money that was spent to diversify the phone situation in the DoD is from 2012 contracts.

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I happen to know that the US department of defence ordered 1 million Blackberry Z10s. Maybe you should do some research before you post.

Really? You happen "to know"? Looks like you have been reading to many Crack berry articles.

Let's throw some facts on this, shall we?
Link: slashgear.com/which-partner-purchased-one-million-blackberry-z10-devices-25275206/
A couple of weeks ago, Blackberry announced that a mystery partner had purchased 1 million of its Blackberry Z10 devices. It wouldn’t say who the partner was, but that it was a huge confidence boost for both the company and consumers alike. The announcement was enough to boost its shares up 8.2%. While it was speculated that the mysterious partner had to be a major carrier like AT&T or Verizon Wireless, it turns out that the partner was actually a wireless distributor by the name of Brightstar.

Brightstar is a big, wireless distributor that distributes products all around the world. About 40% of its revenue was composed of Blackberry handset sales a couple of years ago. Brightstar had enough confidence in Blackberry’s new product in order to place such a massive order, and since it operates globally, it has a better chance, than AT&T and Verizon Wireless, to resell all of its Blackberry Z10 devices.

Brightstar also acts as a buffer for companies like Verizon Wireless. Mark Gerber, managing director at Detwiler Fenton, a Research House, stated that Verizon is using Brightstar to “handle the big-box retail and dealer agent channels” for the Blackberry Z10. Gerber believes that Verizon Wireless doesn’t have enough faith in the Blackberry Z10, otherwise it would sell the product on its own.

Operating through a 3rd party is Verizon’s safety net if the Z10 doesn’t do well on its network.
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
No it doesn't, how does a carrier change anything?

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Well if Apple and RIM haven't (They have) then Samsung hasn't at all! Btw I wonder why if Apple and BB are no good does the US government use BlackBerry Z10 and iOS devices and not android?

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Thank-you! Very true! Yes I agree, I like the HTC way better than that Samsung junk

Without the carrier, i cannot even use my smartphone. No data, no calls, no texts etc etc etc. The carrier has a big stake in the design of my perfect smartphone. Hence my next phone is going to be the Rogers rPhone! :)

I would imagine a metal junkie would like a locked down HTC over "junk" that works for many :) Look at that bezel, i hate phones which have more than 10% of front as bezel. Only samsung knows how to make it look like 90%+ of front is just the screen. A huge bezel serves 0 purpose to me.
 
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