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Galaxy S6 Edge/Edge Plus
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I bought mine at T-Mobile with no problems last Saturday. I also have a Note 4 that I bought two weeks ago.
I am the third person at my job to have a Note Edge out of about 30 people. Everyone else has other Samsung phones.
If Samsung makes a buck by releasing these things, then more power to them I guess. Personally I'd have been just as grateful for their development of screen tech if this had been a one-off hardware demo at a tech fair. The nonsensical implementation here honestly wouldn't make me feel that I was "on the edge of cutting edge tech" if I owned one of these things. It might just as well have been a spherical phone with the screen on the inside for all I care...
But if people want to shell out 700 bucks for one of these, why not! I guess... I'd be interested to see if Samsung in the end even breaks even on selling these things, advertising effect included.
Sorry mate but the bolded part makes you sound a bit bitterSure they've filed the patent but rest assured they won't make an actual retail product out of it until they have a very clear cut and practically useful implementation of it.
Fair assessment. But I also know you're more fair than the person I was responding to.
So me asking for examples of how this type of display could positively enhance one's smartphone experience is me being an Apple fanboy?
I apologize - I'll never ask such an incendiary, flamebait question again......
Seriously?
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Fair assessment. But I also know you're more fair than the person I was responding to.
Whatever unsaid biases are here are the ones you're bringing about me.
I've said outright I have no love for Samsung. But that hasn't stopped me from using their products. Hell, I plan to try out a Note 5 when it's released.
In this case, I've simply asked for useful examples. I've seen some, though I find it hard to believe people would pay extra and inconvenience themselves ergonomics wise for the examples that have been said.
I'm just curious about how others would use it / why they see it as beneficial NOW.
Companies can test and experiment all they want. Usually, this is done in R&D.....not with a flagship product.
If Apple released something exactly like this now, I'd question it too. Wouldn't make sense to me. But see....I know Apple. As Oohara said, they wouldn't release a product unless there was a commercially viable reason for it.
Relax, just asking about your own words here:
To call a company who's experimenting with technology "dumb" just seems awfully derogatory. There are many companies that experiment with new technology for many different reasons.
What do you lose when Samsung releases a second variant of their phone? You're free to have your opinion, of course.
I didn't call them dumb for experimenting. I said it was dumb to release a product just for the sake of releasing a product....meaning it didn't seem like there's much reason such a product....hence my entire question to begin with.
Don't call me unfair and talk down to me then tell me to calm down. Think what you want of me, but don't read words into my posts. I said what I meant and meant what I said.
Like I already said - most companies experiment in their R&D departments - not with flagship products. So feel free to answer my question - which is why release something like this with no obvious benefit to the public? Why not keep it in your R&D department and hone the idea until it becomes something useful?
It's a simple question - but i get it....I'm not allowed to ask questions. How ironic people bitch and moan about Apple fans "not questioning Apple" and here we are with me defending a simple, innocuous question I asked about Samsung.
Those who want their main flagship have plenty to choose from. Those who want more experimental technology that might have some added unique features can get the Edge variant if they want.
Again, it's not like Samsung is only releasing an Edge variant and forcing those who want to upgrade their Samsung devices to use the Edge version. If they can offer both, and as someone who [I presume] enjoys technology, why knock them for releasing it? How are you so sure there aren't niche markets that would be interested in the Edge?
You know Samsung's markets and their research more than Samsung?
His question is simply why would they release this niche product? Their sales were terrible year over year. What is the single biggest benefit to the note edge? My guess is they have lost a ton of money on this "experiment"
I think he did more than ask a simple question. But he is definitely entitled to his opinions about Samsung. Somehow, I don't think his concerns about Samsung's niche products are well meaning. He's not asking those questions to help Samsung. If I had to guess, quite the opposite. Bashing might be the right word. :X
Because their revenues and profits are down and they're getting squeezed out of both the high-end and low-end markets.....
They should focus on streamlining not mass producing an experimental device.
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Ha, you don't even know what I'm saying. You're so self-righteous in berating me when the truth is I'm not saying or doing anything that's out of the realm of normal, genuine discussion.
The truth is, I'm on your ignore list because you disagreed with me - even though I made valid, reasoned arguments and instead of talking it out or just accepting the fact that we have different viewpoints, you simply decided to stick your fingers in your ears like a child.
Sad part is, since then I've read plenty of your stuff I agree with and wanted to build upon in various discussions. Oh well....
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I'm asking them because I'm curious. My use case isn't the same as everyone else's and I happen to enjoy learning about how other people would use such a device. But by all means, continue to assume whatever you want. People like you jamezr who can't see past their own biases aren't conducive to good discussion.
Have a great day.
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Why are you so concerned or care about Samsung's profit? If they want to release a black and white screen Galaxy phone it's their choice. Samsung is not marketing their Edge or whatever phone to you.
Lol.....you guys are hilarious.
It's really not difficult....
I'm asking, what's the point of the edge - what purpose/problem does it serve as the solution to.
You're saying - "who cares, they can release what they want" - to which I reply "Well, their revenues are down, profits are down and marketshare is taking a beating so there must be some reason to release an experimental product they likely aren't making a lot of money on."
I don't care about Samsung's profits - I'm merely bringing it up because in the face of revenue and marketshare declines (things SAMSUNG certainly cares about), they will release another version of this variant.
My very simple question is "why"? I understand no one here works for Samsung - I thought perhaps this community could come up with some interesting ideas Samsung might have for the edge.
Clearly that was far too much to ask and way over the heads of what seems to be a bunch of forum posters hell bent on starting a war with me and bashing my credibility.
Because they are probably losing a bunch of money on it - and in the midst of all their other competition, why would they put resources into mass producing a very niche device as opposed to revamping their current flagships?
What a stupid way to answer a question....I hoped people would come up with cool use cases. Instead I'm met with a combative "why not"....
Because this is a discussion.
Find me a recent new feature that was universally accepted right away. It took years for video calling to be the norm. And touchscreen with onscreen keyboards. And larger displays bigger than 5 inches. And fingerprint scanners. And so on and so on.
I like where Samsung is heading with this even if it isn't useful or refined right away to the masses. It's called evolution. Once Apple does it, perhaps everyone will follow their lead and praise them for inventing it even if they didn't. It is similar to if they decide to go water-resistant, everyone will start to accept it. What becomes more common, becomes the norm. Usually the mainstream acceptance is led by Apple.
I like where Samsung is heading with this even if it isn't useful or refined right away to the masses. It's called evolution. Once Apple does it, perhaps everyone will follow their lead and praise them for inventing it even if they didn't. It is similar to if they decide to go water-resistant, everyone will start to accept it. What becomes more common, becomes the norm. Usually the mainstream acceptance is led by Apple.
Source? Serious question.
I know there's been some news about Samsung's profits not hitting their mark or whatnot, but my understanding is that's because it's due to added competition in different markets. Can you provide a source showing a direct link that they are "losing a bunch of money" because they're "putting too many resources into mass producing niche devices?"
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This is very well said.
And exactly the point I was making when I asked about how anyone who enjoys seeing technology advance could be so derogatory to a company that is pushing new ideas -- whether they are useful or not.
It's how technology's always been. Not every advancement of technology needs to "solve" something. More power to Samsung and anyone else who has pioneered new things. At the end of the day, the consumers usually are the ones who win out. Nothing wrong with that.
So what if they lose money. Remember the first Galaxy Note, I would bet that when it came first came out you were one of the people calling it stupid and useless. Now what.
I'm not sure if you are dumb and can't grasp what Samsung is trying to do or just in denial that a company you hate is trying to push this new technology.
(1) I never said or insinuated that the production of niche devices is what has led to Samsung's recent troubles.
(2) Given the likely high price tag of R&D of a device like the Edge (it costs more as a result) and the low sales numbers of said device, it is logical to assume that they aren't making very much money. Especially considering Apple owns 3/4 of the smartphone industries profits to begin with - the Edge is likely at best a wash, at worst a money loser.
(3) My simple point was - if Samsung is having trouble (due to increased competition in both the high-end and low-end markets) why continue to mass produce what you've all called "an experiment"? What is the use case?
Devices like the iPad, Note etc which likely were mocked at the beginning had clear use cases. People may not have all seen it at the time - but the use cases existed - both Samsung and Apple were able to demonstrate them.
Where is said use case of the Edge?
That's all I'm asking. The fact that you can't answer the question proves to me there isn't a compelling one and its simply a different product for different product's sake.
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing - I never claimed such - though it does seem dumb as I mentioned before in light of their current troubles.
If Samsung were coming off a record quarter, I wouldn't have the same questions - but they are coming off one of their worst quarters in the last 3+ years.
If you all can't understand how these are genuine discussion questions, it's on you not me. Feel free to stick your fingers in your ears like jameszr. If you don't know how to discuss with someone who has differing viewpoints life's gonna be tough for you.
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Why would Apple do something like this? Perhaps by answering that question you'll actually answer what I've been asking all along.
It is nothing like water-resistant devices - making a device water-resistant has a CLEAR use case. It's extremely evident.
The other features you mentioned all had CLEAR use cases - while they may not have been popular, the USE CASE WAS CLEAR. That is not the case with the Edge.....
And if it is, WHAT IS THAT USE CASE? That's all I want to know. You can keep bashing me and telling me I'm dumb all you people want - at the end of the day I had one question and I got flamed for it. What a lovely community we have here in this Samsung thread...
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Please see above....
The whole point of my question is that I don't understand what Samsung is trying to solve with the Edge. That was my question at the beginning of this whole damn mess. I've said as much about a thousand times....
So am I dumb for asking a question or are the rest of you dumb for ignoring it and bashing me?
And I'm not a big fan of Samsung - but I don't hate them. If I did, I wouldn't have purchased a GS4 or own Samsung TVs and monitors. Nor would I be planning to buy a Note 5 when it's released this year.
I may not see the utility of the edge, but I don't understand the animosity. They are exploring a new market, sometimes you have to lose money or let a technology establish itself first. With that said I don't necessarily disagree that Samsung should concentrate it's efforts more on it's flagging flagship.
I have 0 animosity toward the Edge. Any that's seeping into my posts has to do with the way I've been treated for asking a simple, innocent question.
I truly, still would love to hear some of the ideas people have/can come up with for using that edge display.
Oops, I think I just insulted somebody's mother again....or at least, that's what you'd think based on the responses.
There really isn't much for that edge to do, just sports scores and stock ticker I suppose. Messaging is ok, but really if you have your screen on then you see the notification anyway. Maybe it is nice if you are watching a movie and then the screen isn't obstructed. But I'm having a hard time envisioning what exactly will make that edge popular, especially if only 2 phones have it.
I still think an e-paper display on the back would be cool. Samsung could also play up the VR thing a bit more. It's a shame that the S6 looks so plain though, I don't see it really pulling anyone in.
I appreciate the feedback. I feel the same way....it just doesn't seem like it could go anywhere. I'd much rather Samsung dedicate whatever resources are working on the Edge to building/making flexible/foldable displays viable.
That would be cool.
Samsung does a lot of proof of concept stuff, putting out stuff in limited quantities
I used to think their whole kitchen sink strategy was dumb, but now I prefer it because it's shows marketing isn't telling engineering what they should make plus the company's actually wiling to take risks