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Gaming on M395X: I'm satisfied

looking4anotebo said:
Anyone have a clue what the response time is on these new 5k screens? Any chance at around 5ms?
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I'm guessing this is the arena where the panels/display fall short. I bet they took resolution over hertz & response times (maybe 60Hz 8ms?). I'm in a toss-up between this new riMac & waiting for a mac mini update. If I knew a mini w/ TB3 & a quad was on the way, I would pair it with 980 ti 6GB (in a Sonnet enclosure) and the Acer XB270HU. Who knows, maybe I'll get the riMac now and add all that on later (albeit TB2). That beautiful 5k display AND a 1440p 144Hz 4ms G-SYNC display? Ja!
 
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First off, thanks for the brilliant thread, Mandi. Benchmarks are great for theory but don't always translate to practice. It's nice to have a slew of actual results.

MandiMac said:
Skyrim: 1440p at 60fps, 5K at 30 fps
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Do you have Skyrim modded? I know the game (as a port) was poorly optimized for the PC and a complete VRAM hog. I'm curious how well it runs with some popular effects mods.

Do you (or anyone else) play CS:GO on a riMac system? That's where my biggest curiosity lies.
 
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kødskjold said:
First off, thanks for the brilliant thread, Mandi. Benchmarks are great for theory but don't always translate to practice. It's nice to have a slew of actual results.

Do you have Skyrim modded? I know the game (as a port) was poorly optimized for the PC and a complete VRAM hog. I'm curious how well it runs with some popular effects mods.

Do you (or anyone else) play CS:GO on a riMac system? That's where my biggest curiosity lies.
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Thanks for the heads up! My Skyrim isn't modded at all, vanilla so to say.
I don't have CS:GO, maybe someone else?
 
ESA said:
It would be really nice with 3d mark 11 scores under windows 8 or windows 10
The best way to compare with other GPUs.
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Please help yourself in other benchmarky threads, only real world gaming here.
 
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I just installed windows 10 to try out Heroes of the Storm to see how big a difference there is in performance compared to OS X. And it is really night and day. In OS X on 1440p with ultra settings I can manage a FPS in the 35-50 region. In windows 10 with 1440p extreme settings I can manage a FPS which never goes under 60. And the screen is just awesome to game on.
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so, it's more ideal to run game under windows os?
 
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There's definitely a ton of subjectivity here as what games you play matters a lot as well as how well you like to be playing them now and more importantly 6 to 8 months from now.

For instance, if you think you're going to be doing windows gaming and would like to use the oculus or flight sims or any serious driving sim setups, this is the wrong machine even though that usage falls into the category of "gaming".
 
turbineseaplane said:
There's definitely a ton of subjectivity here as what games you play matters a lot as well as how well you like to be playing them now and more importantly 6 to 8 months from now.

For instance, if you think you're going to be doing windows gaming and would like to use the oculus or flight sims or any serious driving sim setups, this is the wrong machine even though that usage falls into the category of "gaming".
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True, but this doesn't fall under "light to medium gaming needs" ;)
If one is out to be the very best, like no one ever was
Maxing out is his/her real test
The 60 is his/her cause (FPS)
Then an iMac isn't right, of course. But I can't let the people worry about one game or two, if you're following the right threads here you must assume that the GPU burns out within a few hours of gaming which simply isn't the case.
 
MandiMac said:
True, but this doesn't fall under "light to medium gaming needs"
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I'm simply offering additional commentary about "gaming" for those reading.

Even if you're only doing light to medium gaming the iMac is really just acceptable at this point in time and will be outdated extremely quickly.

Longevity is a valid concern for such an expensive product
 
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MandiMac said:
True, but this doesn't fall under "light to medium gaming needs" ;)
If one is out to be the very best, like no one ever was
Maxing out is his/her real test
The 60 is his/her cause (FPS)
Then an iMac isn't right, of course. But I can't let the people worry about one game or two, if you're following the right threads here you must assume that the GPU burns out within a few hours of gaming which simply isn't the case.
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You, sir, are a nerd.
And I love you.
(Apologies for going off topic ;) )
 
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kødskjold said:
First off, thanks for the brilliant thread, Mandi. Benchmarks are great for theory but don't always translate to practice. It's nice to have a slew of actual results.



Do you have Skyrim modded? I know the game (as a port) was poorly optimized for the PC and a complete VRAM hog. I'm curious how well it runs with some popular effects mods.

Do you (or anyone else) play CS:GO on a riMac system? That's where my biggest curiosity lies.
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Not entirely sure if this helps you but I have been playing some cs:go on the m290x riMac max settings aside from shader effect at 1440p and it runs very smoothly. I can even crank up the resolution to 4k although I wouldn't play that if I were playing competitive because it does skip a tiny bit. The fps at 4k varies anywhere between 40 and 200 but is generally around 100; whereas it hovers around 180fps at 1440 but can dip down below 120. These don't account for hours of playing in a row, my longest session has probably been an hour.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
I'm simply offering additional commentary about "gaming" for those reading.

Even if you're only doing light to medium gaming the iMac is really just acceptable at this point in time and will be outdated extremely quickly.

Longevity is a valid concern for such an expensive product
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Thanks for the clarification, I'm still a little sensitive about the negativity in other threads, please excuse my French.

But you're saying it's acceptable - I don't really know what the current riMac could do better than provide a steady 60 fps?
 
MandiMac said:
Thanks for the clarification, I'm still a little sensitive about the negativity in other threads, please excuse my French.

But you're saying it's acceptable - I don't really know what the current riMac could do better than provide a steady 60 fps?
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I don't want to gum up your thread with back and forth on this, so I'll bow out. I just wanted to add (with my comment above) that when the term "gaming" comes up it's a much deeper subject pool of concern, as the needs can change with games getting updated and new releases and what genre and no way to change or upgrade a single thing on the iMac (past RAM) down the line, etc.

I'd probably have titled your post "For my light gaming needs I'm happy with the M395X".

Anyways - I don't blame you for the sensitivity. Some of the threads around here are no fun. Such is life on forums. Hah!
 
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Cody1992 said:
Not entirely sure if this helps you but I have been playing some cs:go on the m290x riMac max settings aside from shader effect at 1440p and it runs very smoothly. I can even crank up the resolution to 4k although I wouldn't play that if I were playing competitive because it does skip a tiny bit. The fps at 4k varies anywhere between 40 and 200 but is generally around 100; whereas it hovers around 180fps at 1440 but can dip down below 120. These don't account for hours of playing in a row, my longest session has probably been an hour.
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Is this via bootcamp or OSX? Playing at a high res would be nice, but performance is more important. It's been a long time, but I used to be CAL (IM/M), so I like to play somewhat competitively. I know this system wouldn't be the most ideal, since I'm sure the screen refresh is terrible... but my competition days are done. As long as I can get some fragging in w/o throwing my computer across the room. ;)

Any point of reference helps, thanks!
 
Thanks for the reasonable thread. The only PC game I really want to play on my incoming iMac is Civilization V. Big beautiful world maps. Any chance you have that in your Steam library?
 
kødskjold said:
Is this via bootcamp or OSX? Playing at a high res would be nice, but performance is more important. It's been a long time, but I used to be CAL (IM/M), so I like to play somewhat competitively. I know this system wouldn't be the most ideal, since I'm sure the screen refresh is terrible... but my competition days are done. As long as I can get some fragging in w/o throwing my computer across the room. ;)

Any point of reference helps, thanks!
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Mac OS X El Capitan, I forgot to mention this. I don't think you would have any problems with the m390 or above.
 
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jasonefmonk said:
Thanks for the reasonable thread. The only PC game I really want to play on my incoming iMac is Civilization V. Big beautiful world maps. Any chance you have that in your Steam library?
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You're welcome! Thanks to everyone who makes it lively as it is.

Sorry, I don't have it, but I think I know someone who has it - gotta confirm that first. OS X or Windows?
 
MandiMac said:
You're welcome! Thanks to everyone who makes it lively as it is.

Sorry, I don't have it, but I think I know someone who has it - gotta confirm that first. OS X or Windows?
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Do you have Rocket League, League of Legends and/or Cities Skylines (with or without expansion After Dark)?
Win or OSX doesn't matter, but OSX is of course preferable. And if you have any of these games, could you try out different settings and resolutions to see which gives the best settings while keeping it above acceptable performance?

Great thread!
 
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