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I’ve noticed this largish symmetrical plant growing in the middle of a flower shrub bed. It’s about 3’ tall. I was telling it your so bold I’ll give to a chance, while wondering if it’s a weed. I turned on my Plant Snap App and it identified it as Perilla Frutescens, with a possible secondary ID as Hydrangea. I pulled off a leaf and compared it to our hydrangeas and it looked identical, but the branch structure was not as gangly as the hydrangeas .

So I looked up images online and then recognized it as similar to two of the shrub like plants I had planted last year, but those were red purplish variegated. This is a new plant but it’s all green. I’ll be interested to see what it does. Riveting!😜


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Perilla Frutescens online

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My plant


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My Plant leaf​
 
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I'm building up some planter boxes in my back yard. I have one completed and plan on doing 2, maybe 3 more. Anyhow, my squash plants who love the box are getting hit every week with a brood of squash bug nymphs. Luckily the broods are small 10-20 at a time relegated to one leaf, so I've been able to take the leaf off and throw it bugs n all in the garbage. I've only caught eggs once. Anyhow, the plants are robust and healthy & producing fruits but boy are the squash bugs out in full force this season.

Tomatoes and eggplant from seed are going much much slower. Good thing I like squash - yum. :D
 
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It does look like a hydrangea. The flower heads start out looking like little broccoli florets, i.e. they will look greenish for awhile before turning blue or pink depending on pH of the soil.
 
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It does look like a hydrangea. The flower heads start out looking like little broccoli florets, i.e. they will look greenish for awhile before turning blue or pink depending on pH of the soil.
I’m waiting to see what kind of flowers develop. :)
 

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I’ve noticed this largish symmetrical plant growing in the middle of a flower shrub bed. It’s about 3’ tall. I was telling it your so bold I’ll give to a chance, while wondering if it’s a weed. I turned on my Plant Snap App and it identified it as Perilla Frutescens, with a possible secondary ID as Hydrangea. I pulled off a leaf and compared it to our hydrangeas and it looked identical, but the branch structure was not as gangly as the hydrangeas .

So I looked up images online and then recognized it as similar to two of the shrub like plants I had planted last year, but those were red purplish variegated. This is a new plant but it’s all green. I’ll be interested to see what it does. Riveting!😜


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Perilla Frutescens online

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My Plant leaf​
I located a resprout or volunteer of what I planted last year, Coleus. Still waiting to see what the mystery plant does.

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Regarding my elephant ear in the front bed, which was volunteer, a mystery how a seed found it’s way there, it keeps getting bigger and bigger as new plants develop next to the original. I pulled off 2 babies and potted them in small starter pot’s as I read they can be happy potted, but I have no place for them if I can’t keep them relatively small. 🤔

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I’ve noticed this largish symmetrical plant growing in the middle of a flower shrub bed. It’s about 3’ tall. I was telling it your so bold I’ll give to a chance, while wondering if it’s a weed. I turned on my Plant Snap App and it identified it as Perilla Frutescens, with a possible secondary ID as Hydrangea. I pulled off a leaf and compared it to our hydrangeas and it looked identical, but the branch structure was not as gangly as the hydrangeas .

So I looked up images online and then recognized it as similar to two of the shrub like plants I had planted last year, but those were red purplish variegated. This is a new plant but it’s all green. I’ll be interested to see what it does. Riveting!😜


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My Plant leaf​
Perilla frutescens var. crispa has been cultivated by the Japanese for centuries, known to them as shiso.

The green variety is called ao shiso ("ao" = green); the red variety is called aka shiso ("aka" = red). It is often referred to as the beefsteak plant in English-speaking countries. Both varieties are highly prized as fresh culinary herbs by the Japanese.

The green variety is often used in sushi. The red variety is typically used when pickling certain vegetables, both for flavor as well as color.
 
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Perilla frutescens var. crispa has been cultivated by the Japanese for centuries, known to them as shiso.

The green variety is called ao shiso ("ao" = green); the red variety is called aka shiso ("aka" = red). It is often referred to as the beefsteak plant in English-speaking countries. Both varieties are highly prized as fresh culinary herbs by the Japanese.

The green variety is often used in sushi. The red variety is typically used when pickling certain vegetables, both for flavor as well as color.
Wondering where it came from and what kind of blooms it will have. :)
 

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I've grown shiso myself before.

If I recall correctly when it bolted it did not have particularly noteworthy or pretty flowers. If it did undoubtedly the Japanese would have included it in illustrations over the centuries and as food decoration.

Neither the flowers nor seeds have any culinary value to my knowledge.
 
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Yeah, for a long time I thought the Koreans used shiso as much as the Japanese. Their plant is called perilla and it looks quite similar. I'm told perilla has a mild anise flavor and goes well with BBQ'd meats and vegetables as a wrap/encasing.

There's a variety of basil in the same vain. It's very large and has a very delicate flavor. It slightly resembles an overgrown Italian basil variety. Lettuce or mammoth basil is its common name. It's quite large and used to wrap food with. Another variety of large basil called giant basil which is based off of a Genovese strain. It's not as large as the mammoth variety, but its flavor is stronger.
 
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We recently found out that the large tree beside our house is actually a fig tree. Now that it’s bearing fruit, it’s become a daily ritual to go out and pick figs. We probably picked 60-70 figs off the tree today alone, and there are still hundreds on the tree which aren’t yet ripe.

I made 3 batches of fig preserves last weekend, which produced 14-8oz jars. We’ve to give some away to neighbors and friends.
 
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We recently found out that the large tree beside our house is actually a fig tree. Now that it’s bearing fruit, it’s become a daily ritual to go out and pick figs. We probably picked 60-70 figs off the tree today alone, and there are still hundreds on the tree which aren’t yet ripe.

I made 3 batches of fig preserves last weekend, which produced 14-8oz jars. We’ve to give some away to neighbors and friends.
I had a large fruitful fig tree in the back yard, I really wanted to be cooking up figs. Unfortunately it had to be sacrificed for a shed. Our back yard is not big and there is a pool in it. :(
 

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We recently found out that the large tree beside our house is actually a fig tree. Now that it’s bearing fruit, it’s become a daily ritual to go out and pick figs. We probably picked 60-70 figs off the tree today alone, and there are still hundreds on the tree which aren’t yet ripe.

I made 3 batches of fig preserves last weekend, which produced 14-8oz jars. We’ve to give some away to neighbors and friends.
Man I am so envious, you can make jam from the excess you can not eat fresh. I bet they freeze good too but I have never tried that.
They are definitely best picked and eaten fresh and raw. Yum.

Thanks for sharing your amazing experience and good fortune.
 
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They are probably overwatered although I shoot to water them once a week. I’ve seen rosemary growing in really hot dry environments and look happy.
Well, the other 2 rosemary plants have decided to die abruptly. 😓 I’ve decided it was either fertilizing it with a general fertilizer, the same time I fertilized the first one that croaked months ago, or too much water, or too much heat, but I don’t think it’s heat, because my understanding is that it is a desert, arid plant. I started a new one from cutting, but now am wondering how to avoid the sudden death syndrome.
More thoughts?😶

Update: one is still alive. No more watering once a week based on:
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Any Arbor (Tree) experts here, or know of a good place to get advice?

Out front we have a large tree that that was 2 trees that grew together or a single tree that grew with two trunks joined at the base. About 3 years ago one of these trees was leaning precipitously over the house and we decided to remove it, cutting above where to two trunks joined leaving a stump. I read that a good thing to do was let the cut heal on it’s own.

The strump seemed to be fine, but recently a chunk of it collapsed into itself to reveal a hole full of fungess. So today I sliced the top of the trunk off to find that the rotted wood extended quite a ways down so I ended up cutting quite a bit of the stump off to get rid of the dead, soft wood.

So what now? I’m concerned that this area that rotted and had bugs in, would threaten the healthy part of the tree. Below you can see what is left and I’m seeking advice online as to the best way to treat this new wound. Leaving it alone last time did not work well, so I plan on praying it with a pruning spray, which is glorified tar like they use when sealing shingles on roofs.

I also noticed a crevice where the trunk meet where a fern had decided to grow and there was dirt and bugs in there! I spreayed the area with a biological natural insecticide and after it’s done drying, I’m going to fill that in, unless I hear that is not a good thing to do. I’m thinking this area should definitely be filled with a tar sealer so water can’t sit in that crevice.

Any advice appreciated. If you know of a good online forum, please let me know. :)

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Top of stump cut off

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Crevice between the stump And the healthy tree.​
 

Huntn

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Any Arbor (Tree) experts here, or know of a good place to get advice?

Out front we have a large tree that that was 2 trees that grew together or a single tree that grew with two trunks joined at the base. About 3 years ago one of these trees was leaning precipitously over the house and we decided to remove it, cutting above where to two trunks joined leaving a stump. I read that a good thing to do was let the cut heal on it’s own.

The strump seemed to be fine, but recently a chunk of it collapsed into itself to reveal a hole full of fungess. So today I sliced the top of the trunk off to find that the rotted wood extended quite a ways down so I ended up cutting quite a bit of the stump off to get rid of the dead, soft wood.

So what now? I’m concerned that this area that rotted and had bugs in, would threaten the healthy part of the tree. Below you can see what is left and I’m seeking advice online as to the best way to treat this new wound. Leaving it alone last time did not work well, so I plan on praying it with a pruning spray, which is glorified tar like they use when sealing shingles on roofs.

I also noticed a crevice where the trunk meet where a fern had decided to grow and there was dirt and bugs in there! I spreayed the area with a biological natural insecticide and after it’s done drying, I’m going to fill that in, unless I hear that is not a good thing to do. I’m thinking this area should definitely be filled with a tar sealer so water can’t sit in that crevice.

Any advice appreciated. If you know of a good online forum, please let me know. :)

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Crevice between the stump And the healthy tree.​
I decided to spray this stump with pruning seal, basically a black tar. A couple of days later, a White material appeared on the tar. Is this fungus?

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Well no matter what happens, it will take at least another 15-20 years for it to die and fall over. :D:eek:
 

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Any Arbor (Tree) experts here, or know of a good place to get advice?
I might suggest touching base with an ISA certified arborist. TreesAreGood.org will show you how to find one. So many times I get photos, but if I see the site for myself, I get a whole different feel for what's going on.

That kind of cut isn't going to heal over. It will just continue to rot out. I can't get a good feel for what kind of damage the rest of the trunks have.

And as an aside, the sealing paint hasn't been recommended since the 80's.
 

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This ginger plant (something with ginger in the name) is doing quite well this year.
it’s on of my favorite plants and comes back every year.

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I might suggest touching base with an ISA certified arborist. TreesAreGood.org will show you how to find one. So many times I get photos, but if I see the site for myself, I get a whole different feel for what's going on.

That kind of cut isn't going to heal over. It will just continue to rot out. I can't get a good feel for what kind of damage the rest of the trunks have.

And as an aside, the sealing paint hasn't been recommended since the 80's.

What is recommended instead? The other trunk shows no indication of rot but I don’t really know. Worse comes to worse, the tree will come down Hopefully at my choosing and not during a storm. I’ll check out that site, thanks.
 

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I decided to spray this stump with pruning seal, basically a black tar. A couple of days later, a White material appeared on the tar. Is this fungus?
For anyone following my tree story, I was able to find a certified tree arborist who was happy to talk to me on the phone after looking at the images I sent him and this is what I learned.

  • I should not have sprayed the trunk, with pruning spray, but it will not hurt the tree, it just slows down the rotting process of the dead part of the tree.
  • The bugs and fungus are there to feast on the dead wood, not consume healthy wood.
  • Allow the dead wood to rot, and as the tree grows it will eventually encapsulate this wound.
  • Fertilize the tree often with a common broadcast fertilizer to encourage growth.
  • He also identified a branch that should be cut off that hangs over the house, as it will likely break during a storm during sometime in the future.
  • One mistake he says in pruning large trees is that people have the low branches over the house removed, leaving high branches. You want to leave the low branches because if the high branches break, they will cushion the fall of any high branch when it hits the roof. I’m talking about large significant branches.
So I have some fertilizer and will start fertilizing it once a month, the. In the Nov-Dec time frame will have this large branch removed.
 

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  • Fertilize the tree often with a common broadcast fertilizer to encourage growth.

In my experience this will not lead to the results you desire, I want to encourage you to not do this if possible.

I probably should have chimed in some time ago but anyhow you got some good advise from here and also the person you contacted but this piece of advise seems misguided. Some mild fertilizer that does not include very much nitrogen might be OK, something like 0-10-10 or such but in general fertilizing full grow trees like you are suggesting would be bad for their health.

Not trying to be a downer but the cut to the tree was not good idea and has probably hastened its demise, it is always best to leave nature deal with these things unless you ask an Arborist :p.

Also it is a true and researched fact that any spray, paint type thing is worst for healing tree wounds then leaving them alone so they can heal on their own.
 
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