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Excuse my noobness, but how does the i5's ±6500 score compare to the ±8500 score of the i7 in overall performance? (Higher for both I guess, with 64bit enabled). I know the i7 is faster for tasks like encoding and HD editing, but from other i5 vs i7 CPU test the overall performance boost was about 5-10% or something like that? The 2000-point difference in these tests seems pretty high to me though.
Think of it this way. it is 1/3 faster for $200.
When was the last time Apple did that for you?

Rocketman
 
I'll do the iTunes test now, and then download Cinebench. So I'll just let itunes play music for roughly 10 minutes, check iStat for temps. No other programs will be open. Be back shortly.

Any word yet hotrod?
 
These are the temps after letting iTunes play music for 10 minutes. Only iTunes was open, and all other programs were quit. However, I didn't reboot to do this test. I was using Safari and copying a few files over before I decided to do this.

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I should also note that the screen was on full brightness which may effect temps to a certain extent. My other PC is an i7@4ghz gaming rig which constantly hits 84C under load. It's overvolted and overclocked. It has been running absolutely great without any BSODs or lock ups. Intels chips can take quite a bit of heat, it's very rare that you hear the CPU burning out, but usually the logic board failing or the hard drive going bad. CPU chips are tough little suckers.
 
Darn you all! I was ready to be blown away by the i5 (I'm sure I will be), but since I keep my desktops for a long time I'm now having second thoughts and may want the i7! Of course it's easy to spend a mint by looking at "It's only $XX more" going from the 21.5" to 27" entry-level, or from that to boosting the video card, and from there just a bit more to get the i5...

But then again, I'll also be getting a new Canon MX860 printer, and since I'm coming from a PC I plan to get some Mac-specific software too. Oh, and a Snowball USB mic to play my acoustic guitar into Garage Band. Hmm, maybe I will just stick with that i5 after all...

:confused:
 
Dude, these numbers are ill...

Just for fun I ran the 64 Bit Geekbench on my work machine (a 1st gen MacPro Quad 2.66ghz, with 12GB of RAM) and got a 6104.

When I get home I'll do the same for the machine I'm replacing with my i7 27" (a 8 core late 2008 3.2Ghz MacPro with 4GB RAM) and see how it does.
 
never been called T9 before haha! thats a new one :D

have you ordered yet? a few days for me..

Sorry, I got lazy and thought I would shorten your name. ;)

Haven't ordered yet. A few more days for me as well.
 
These are the temps after letting iTunes play music for 10 minutes. Only iTunes was open, and all other programs were quit. However, I didn't reboot to do this test. I was using Safari and copying a few files over before I decided to do this.

Screenshot2009-11-12at64604PM.png


I should also note that the screen was on full brightness which may effect temps to a certain extent. My other PC is an i7@4ghz gaming rig which constantly hit 84C underload. It's overvolted and overclocked. It has been running absolutely great without any BSODs or lock ups. Intels chips can take quite a bit of heat, it's very rare that you hear the CPU burning out, but usually the logic board failing or the hard drive going bad. CPU chips are tough little suckers.

hhhmmm.... the temperatures are high. but the fact that you had other things on make it hard to tell. coudl you possibly try with a cold boot?

53x12, you are now named 53 :D ill wait too :D cant get my machine until after i finish uni exams anyway otherwise i shall fail!.
 
I also just ran it in 64-bit. I held down 64 at boot, not sure if it worked or not.

Anyway here are my results.

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Hmm.....9656

I'll be coming from a 24 inch Imac at 3240. Yeah, I'm excited.

These benchmarks aren't always an absolute indicator of performance, so you can't necessarily say that b/c one computer has a BM that's three times as large it will function three times as fast. That being said, these numbers are why I switched my order from i5 to i7. I just knew it would drive me nuts.

EDIT: sorry about the monster sized quote
 
Think of it this way. it is 1/3 faster for $200.
When was the last time Apple did that for you?
Good point.

Ran the test on my late 2006 MacBook 2.0GHz/2GB and it scores 2772. So the i5 is about 2.3-2.5 times faster, i7: 3-3.5 times faster. Since this machine should last me a while and looking at the price, I'm starting to like the latter a lot more.

Other reasoning: work a bit more now, no regrets for not buying the i7 for 3+ years :p
 
Dude, these numbers are ill...

Just for fun I ran the 64 Bit Geekbench on my work machine (a 1st gen MacPro Quad 2.66ghz, with 12GB of RAM) and got a 6104.

When I get home I'll do the same for the machine I'm replacing with my i7 27" (a 8 core late 2008 3.2Ghz MacPro with 4GB RAM) and see how it does.

you are replacing an 8-core macpro with an iMac? why?
 
Exactly. So how do I bridge the benchtests in this thread and the gaming benchtests (which are not on iMacs)? I don't think its as black and white as saying "the i7 is 30% faster than the i5". For a gamer, will the i7 really be much better?

the gaming benchmarks across the C2D, i5 and i7 should be around the same. the C2D 3.33GHz will most likely score the highest FPS.
 
i think i can safely say that i can finally order mine now. has anybody found any issues with their i7 computers yet? screenflickering, high idle temperatures when only playing music or things like that?

there is a problem with the MPs when playing only itunes, CPU usage is around ~1% yet the temperature of the CPU hits 60°C when it is normally 30°C idle after around 10minutes of playback. can anybody confirm results? (this isnt an issue with the i5's it would seem, btw).

havent you bought one yet?

the quad core iMacs have sufficiently larger heatsinks, as seen at MacFixit.com, to get more heat out. so they do generate more heat than the dual core iMac, but hopefully the heat is exhausted better.
 
you are replacing an 8-core macpro with an iMac? why?

Keep in mind it's the last generation MacPro, not the current one.

I figure in day to day use it'll be faster, it takes up less space, has a much nicer monitor than my current 23" cinema display, draws half as much power, and for what I use it for (Logic, Creative Suite) I don't need 4 bays or PCI-E slots.

Plus when I sell the old tower and monitor, I pay for the iMac and get $1000 cash back :)
 
havent you bought one yet?

the quad core iMacs have sufficiently larger heatsinks, as seen at MacFixit.com, to get more heat out. so they do generate more heat than the dual core iMac, but hopefully the heat is exhausted better.

nope waiting for initial results.

have you seen the thread on the MPs heating up when just playing itunes? there is a software/hardware problem. trying to figure out if its a problem with the i5/i7 imacs too as they are basically the same computer.
 
Exactly. So how do I bridge the benchtests in this thread and the gaming benchtests (which are not on iMacs)? I don't think its as black and white as saying "the i7 is 30% faster than the i5". For a gamer, will the i7 really be much better?

I don't think that the difference will be like 30% more fps. Most games only use 1 or 2 cores. In that case the i5 will run at 3.2 GHz while the i7 will run at 3.46 GHz (correct me on the numbers if I'm wrong). I do even think that a 3.33 GHz (E8600) combined with an ATi 4850 will do a pretty good job when it comes to gaming. Hell, I can't wait to see some real world benchmarks!
 
Sorry, I got lazy and thought I would shorten your name. ;)

Haven't ordered yet. A few more days for me as well.

You haven't ordered, yet you are the top poster in the waiting to ship thread. LOL

DoFoT9, who also hasn't ordered is the 2nd top poster. LMAO
 
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