So everything except Fallout 3, the i5 and i7 are basically the same for the other games (L4D, FC2, Crysis)?
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Geekbench results - iMac Quad Core w/ i7
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So everything except Fallout 3, the i5 and i7 are basically the same for the other games (L4D, FC2, Crysis)?
Ok here are some Cinebench results.
I wish I could test some games for you guys, but all my games are for PC. Is there some GPU benchmark I could download and try out?
I wish I could test some games for you guys, but all my games are for PC. Is there some GPU benchmark I could download and try out?
I don't yet have one of the newest systems.
If you boot into 64 bit (presumably with a script) is there any 32 bit app that doesn't run? If not then, why not always boot to 64 bit to receive the benefits in the few applications that can use it?
Are we there yet?
Rocketman
If you boot into 64 bit (presumably with a script) is there any 32 bit app that doesn't run? If not then, why not always boot to 64 bit to receive the benefits in the few applications that can use it?
Are we there yet?
Rocketman
There's a good explanation of where things are at with the 64-bit SL over on AppleInsider today:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/11/12/review_apples_27_big_screen_imac_late_2009.html&page=3
My wife's early 2008 Macbook Pro (C2D 2.40 Ghz w/ 2GB RAM) scored a 3100 on Geekbench, and it seems snappy compared to my 2002 PC!
Dell Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz w/ 2 GB RAM & Windows XP = A staggering 826!!!
I think the i5 will be fine for me, even though an i7 seems tempting.
Dell Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz w/ 2 GB RAM & Windows XP = A staggering 826!!!
I think the i5 will be fine for me, even though an i7 seems tempting.
This little app will do the terminal work for you.
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I have found very few problems running my Mac Pro in 64-bit mode.
whats the use of booting into 64-bit for general users? there are zero speed improvements unless you are utilising more then 4GB RAM for a single program.
For general users? If you took a stop watch and timed everything I'm sure you would notice a minor speed increase but not enough to matter.
I have a few pieces of hardware that don't like Snow Leopard in 64-bit mode at all. The most commonly used one around here is the Drobo. The Dashboard will not launch in 64-bit mode, which means the Drobo becomes a generic FW800 drive.
read the link posted at post #106 by googdot. it states that 64-bit enabled apps have no substantial increases when booted in 32-bit compared to 64-bit OS (differences are like 0.5% change). that is for 64-bit apps that use less then 4GB RAM total.
I'm proud to say my early 2006 MBP scored a 2881 using geekbench...not bad considering. I'd be more than doubling my score with an i5, and tripling it with an i7. When I think about it this way, it's easy to come to the conclusion $200 bucks (after tax) is worth the upgrade.
But I really don't want to spend money on something I don't need or won't use, and would rather put the money into upgrading my memory (or my car).
Plus, the thought of changing my mind now and ordering online doesn't appeal either. I think I will stick to my first instinct which was to run to the nearest store as soon as they got the i5's in.
It's still "top of the line", just not in terms of the custom builds...
But I really don't want to spend money on something I don't need or won't use, and would rather put the money into upgrading my memory (or my car).
Plus, the thought of changing my mind now and ordering online doesn't appeal either. I think I will stick to my first instinct which was to run to the nearest store as soon as they got the i5's in.
It's still "top of the line"
, just not in terms of the custom builds...
it has been confirmed that we can upgrade the C2Ds CPU & GPU so i think it is safe to say that the i5/i7 CPU & GPU can be done too
Can you expand on why? Were you always sold on the i7 or was it these benchtests that convinced you?
it has been confirmed that we can upgrade the C2Ds CPU & GPU so i think it is safe to say that the i5/i7 CPU & GPU can be done too
Yeah I know the 1156 socket chips should work, however despite the fact that the i5/i7 are socketed, that doesn't address the issue of whether Apple with have firmware support. Also the issue of voiding the warranty...bla bla bla. The biggest imho is the firmware support.
If I can speak freely, I was sold on the i5 until the benchmarks started coming out today. Just seeing the amount of speed increase you get with the i7 over the i5 for just $200 sold me. If you think of keeping it for 3 years, it comes out to under $.19 a day. That can easily be made up for by cutting out something once a month I really don't need; like fast food or going out to eat...etc.
true, one would assume that we could put a 870 into it! 2.93GHz of pure amazingness!
warranty.. meh
true, one would assume that we could put a 870 into it! 2.93GHz of pure amazingness!
warranty.. meh
That is what I was thinking as well. Get the i5, wait until the cost of the 870 drops (or wait for a 880 or 890 to come out) and upgrade. Then I would have something faster than the i7 860; however I'm not sure I want to take that risk without knowing that Apple would have the firmware support for it.
it would be supported. the MPs can be upgraded with the Xeons and they all work fine. as long as its the same architecture then its fine
(i believe).Core i5 64-bit Geekbench Results
Hey guys,
I ran the 64-bit test and the score was 7682. Is Core i7 really worth the extra performance? I mean how much of a difference will I notice??
Hey guys,
I ran the 64-bit test and the score was 7682. Is Core i7 really worth the extra performance? I mean how much of a difference will I notice??
Forgot to mention the Foxconn socket 1156 (silly wild ass guess on the supplier), which doesn't take to overclocking well either.
So no firmware updates and a socket holding you back from pushing the limits, likely should make them about as upgradable as the socketed mobile CPUs were.
I'm really surprised Apple didn't try to make it really hard on people and custom order the chips with the lower pin count mobile version of the socket.
Keep in mind it's the last generation MacPro, not the current one.
I figure in day to day use it'll be faster, it takes up less space, has a much nicer monitor than my current 23" cinema display, draws half as much power, and for what I use it for (Logic, Creative Suite) I don't need 4 bays or PCI-E slots.
Plus when I sell the old tower and monitor, I pay for the iMac and get $1000 cash back
I hear you! I did the same thing.
The MacPro's use a hell of a lot of power. Hated not having a proper webcam (because of my Cinema display) and the MacPro gathers up a lot of dust.
I just sold my MacPro 2.66 GHz Quad-Core (2007 Model), 3 GIG, 750GIG HDD with 20" Cinema Display for AUS $2700.00.
I couldn't believe it!
So for an extra (AUS)$190.00 I got the i7.