Geekbench score for M1 Max. It's great

[Kung gu]

Here is an other geek-bench score! The Mac is back guys!!!

MacBookPro18,2 - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a MacBookPro18,2 with an Apple M1 Max processor.

browser.geekbench.com

 

[Romanesco]

Here is an other geek-bench score! The Mac is back guys!!!

MacBookPro18,2 - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a MacBookPro18,2 with an Apple M1 Max processor.

browser.geekbench.com

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Any Metal/ compute scores?

 

[UBS28]

So it performs like a desktop Intel i9 CPU (slightly higher single core but slightly lower multi-core)?

 

[crystalidea]

Amazing, basically same results as my Ryzen 5900X cpu

 

[quarkysg]

Amazing, basically same results as my Ryzen 5900X cpu

I would think GB5 results tells part of the story. The fact that the M1 Max has 400 GB/s at its disposal means that’s it’ll have real world advantage that the AMD and Intel CPUs will struggle to rival. It should fly thru many large dataset processing.

 

[UBS28]

Amazing, basically same results as my Ryzen 5900X cpu

Indeed, that is also what I said. The M1 Max is basically just a desktop CPU that fits into a laptop.

 

[leman]

I am a bit disappointed I have to say. I expected higher single-core performance than M1. The multi-core is as expected. There is little doubt that this will be the fastest laptop for a while. Maybe the upcoming Alder Lake will match the single-core performance, who knows...

 

[Kpjoslee]

I am a bit disappointed I have to say. I expected higher single-core performance than M1. The multi-core is as expected. There is little doubt that this will be the fastest laptop for a while. Maybe the upcoming Alder Lake will match the single-core performance, who knows...

Not surprised at all actually. M1 performance cores didn't look like it will go beyond 3.2Ghz. Alder Lake is going to be interesting competition not because of Golden Cove but the little cores being much better than expected.

 

[Serban55]

are there any Alder Lake laptops ?

 

[Kpjoslee]

are there any Alder Lake laptops ?

only Desktop chips launching in November and Laptops based on Alder Lake probably gonna launch around early next year.

 

[crazy dave]

Not surprised at all actually. M1 performance cores didn't look like it will go beyond 3.2Ghz. Alder Lake is going to be interesting competition not because of Golden Cove but the little cores being much better than expected.

He was hoping for avalanche cores given the timing of the launch. I have to admit so was I though I was pretty sure they were going to be firestorm.

 

[Serban55]

only Desktop chips launching in November and Laptops based on Alder Lake probably gonna launch around early next year.

where i can find more specifics about these upcoming chips from Intel?

 

[leman]

where i can find more specifics about these upcoming chips from Intel?

There are some leaks if you google around but the official launch is 27.10

 

[crazy dave]

where i can find more specifics about these upcoming chips from Intel?

Anandtech has technical preview from their architecture day and there have been some leaks

Intel Architecture Day 2021: Alder Lake, Golden Cove, and Gracemont Detailed

www.anandtech.com

 

[jgbr]

need to see the Ghz! particularly also to see if any differences between Pro and Max on that front.

 

[Serban55]

Expect the 16" to come with different cooling system between M1 pro and M1 max since the M1 max weight 100g more than the m1 pro

 

[Serban55]

need to see the Ghz! particularly also to see if any differences between Pro and Max on that front.

since both are the same on single core with the M1...expect around 3.2 ghz

 

[crazy dave]

need to see the Ghz! particularly also to see if any differences between Pro and Max on that front.

Supposedly all chips support the same single core performance while the Pro and Max have the same multicore performance as each other. The bigger difference will probably be in the thermals for the 16” vs 14” allowing higher sustained performance in the former.

 

[Serban55]

Anandtech has technical preview from their architecture day and there have been some leaks

Intel Architecture Day 2021: Alder Lake, Golden Cove, and Gracemont Detailed

www.anandtech.com

yea thank you, but that is based on Intel press..not on actual hardware...so i have to wait for anandtech to put their hands on an actual device with alder lake+windows 11
Cannot wait

 

[leman]

Supposedly all chips support the same single core performance while the Pro and Max have the same multicore performance as each other. The bigger difference will probably be in the thermals for the 16” vs 14” allowing higher sustained performance in the former.

Given that both models significantly improved the cooling system from their predecessors (the 14" should have around 50-60W sustained cooling power), I'd expect the CPU to run pretty much unrestricted on both. The GPU is where the thermals are much more important.

But then again, M1 Max is more of a GPU with an integrated CPU than a SoC in traditional term of the world. It's literally a gaming console..

 

[quarkysg]

But then again, M1 Max is more of a GPU with an integrated CPU than a SoC in traditional term of the world. It's literally a gaming console..

I just realised that the M1 Max Macs have a larger data bus width (512 bits) and bandwidth than the current Intel Mac Pro (384 bits.) And the M1 Max GPUs are no longer bottle-necked by PCIe's measly 32 GB/s bandwidth. I expect real world work load for the M1 Max Macs to fly for large datasets.

 

[Fomalhaut]

I am a bit disappointed I have to say. I expected higher single-core performance than M1. The multi-core is as expected. There is little doubt that this will be the fastest laptop for a while. Maybe the upcoming Alder Lake will match the single-core performance, who knows...

Do you think the single-core score indicates that the core micro-architecture is indeed the same as the M1 / A14, and does not have any of the improvements of the A15?

If so, it would be a bit underwhelming. Maybe there just wasn't time to do it all...

When might be expect an M2 Pro/Max? Next October, or in 2023? I wonder whether Apple will adopt a yearly cycle or every 18-24 months?

 

[Serban55]

Given that both models significantly improved the cooling system from their predecessors (the 14" should have around 50-60W sustained cooling power), I'd expect the CPU to run pretty much unrestricted on both. The GPU is where the thermals are much more important.

But then again, M1 Max is more of a GPU with an integrated CPU than a SoC in traditional term of the world. It's literally a gaming console..

why do you think the maxed out 14" get only 96W USB-C Power Adapter but the 16" with the same SoC you get the 140W ?

 

[leman]

Do you think the single-core score indicates that the core micro-architecture is indeed the same as the M1 / A14, and does not have any of the improvements of the A15?

If so, it would be a bit underwhelming. Maybe there just wasn't time to do it all...

The cache size and leaked performance suggest 3.2 Firestorm. The little cores are more weird, because they have more cache than Icestorm. So maybe it's Firestorm + Blizzard?

When might be expect an M2 Pro/Max? Next October, or in 2023? I wonder whether Apple will adopt a yearly cycle or every 18-24 months?

I'd say exactly one yer from now

 

[leman]

why do you think the maxed out 14" get only 96W USB-C Power Adapter but the 16" with the same SoC you get the 140W ?

I doubt it to be honest. The USB-C will likely be still limited to 100W PD (less in practice). The new MagSafe is the dedicated fast charging port.