Have you tried GPU-Z yet? I want to see what screenshot it spits out.
Otherwise this does smell of GeForce 9800M GS.
Otherwise this does smell of GeForce 9800M GS.
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Geforce GT 130 Specs - now with 3D Benchmarks!
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The 3DMark 06 benchmarks (all benchmarks from the same site) put the mobility 4850 ahead though, 9577 to 8454. The "crysis on max settings" benchmark (also same site) give that mobility 4850 44 fps and the 9800M GS 22 fps. I would say that overall the Mobility 4850 is the better card.
This discussion gets very interesting... I also still want to see the GPU-Z screens with more info about the G130 card... If the G130 is pretty fast and decent card, then I am going to order a new iMac right now, because I need it now.
Again guys, read what I wrote: You CANNOT compare scores across 3dMark these days! 3dMark is heavily CPU bound, and you add on the fact that the Radeon 4800 series didn't score that well in 3dMark (but do a lot better in real world performance) and the scores are irrelevant.
Plus, I think the specs point it towards a 9600GT...
For what it is worth, I did get into a sales chat with Apple and was told that the 4850 was in fact the full desktop version:
I then asked "But can I be assured that the version in the iMac is "the real deal", or could it have been slowed due to heat concerns?" The reply was
After this I called 1800MYAPPLE and was told be a sales rep that it is the Desktop card in the iMac and not the Mobility.
Finally the next day I did one more sales chat and was told that it WAS the mobility, but when I asked for a bit more detail I was told to call 1800MYAPPLE.
So my scoreboard says: 1 for Mobilty Version, 2 for Desktop Version
I then asked "But can I be assured that the version in the iMac is "the real deal", or could it have been slowed due to heat concerns?" The reply was
After this I called 1800MYAPPLE and was told be a sales rep that it is the Desktop card in the iMac and not the Mobility.
Finally the next day I did one more sales chat and was told that it WAS the mobility, but when I asked for a bit more detail I was told to call 1800MYAPPLE.
So my scoreboard says: 1 for Mobilty Version, 2 for Desktop Version
And 1 for "Apple's support is a disorganized mess where the employees themselves haven't been correctly educated about the hardware of their latest machines".
And 1 for "Apple's support is a disorganized mess where the employees themselves haven't been correctly educated about the hardware of their latest machines".
That is why I'm a bit weary to take their word for it. I think that if the GT 130 being discussed in this thread is a desktop card, then that lends credence to the idea that the 4850 is also a desktop version.
The previous iMac had the 2600 Pro and 8800 GS, am I right?
Remember the X1600?
Remember the X1600? I'm using right now!
EDIT: I was just talking to Apple on the phone, and was referred to the "systems engineer". He said that the Radeon 4850 was the Desktop card, not the mobility variant. I think that is enough evidence for me to believe that we will be getting the real deal. My buddy also did another sales chat and confirmed the same thing.
Desktop Version: 4
Mobility Version: 1
More fuel for the fire - or has it been extinguished? This guy claims the following regarding the 130:
"The GT 130 has 32 processor cores capable of 144 Gigaflops. The CPU clock runs at 1.5GHz, the GDDR3 memory runs at 800MHz and can display up to 2560 x 1600 pixels via a digital link". Hmmmmm....
Source: http://www.displayblog.com/2009/03/03/2009-apple-24-imac-306ghz-all-in-one/
"The GT 130 has 32 processor cores capable of 144 Gigaflops. The CPU clock runs at 1.5GHz, the GDDR3 memory runs at 800MHz and can display up to 2560 x 1600 pixels via a digital link". Hmmmmm....
Source: http://www.displayblog.com/2009/03/03/2009-apple-24-imac-306ghz-all-in-one/
This Thread Contains NO USEFUL INFO
What is WRONG with you people?
Hasn't ANYONE thought of simply benchmarking a new iMac with the "GT130" and then benchmarking an old iMac with the "8800 GS"???????
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO A SITE THAT PROVIDES THIS SIMPLE AND SENSIBLE BENCHMARK. It's the only one that matters. Thank you.
I REALLY don't care what the hell FPS some non-Mac game gets whilst running a non-Mac operating system on an iMac. What I DO care about is how many FPS a Mac 3D application would get on the iMac (such as Second Life, Call of Duty 4, WoW, etc.).
So can someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FREAKING PLEASE post benchmarks of these software running on (a) the 8800 GS iMac with 3.02 GHz and (b) the GT 130 iMac with 3.02 GHz???????
THANKS!!!!!
-=DG=-
What is WRONG with you people?
Hasn't ANYONE thought of simply benchmarking a new iMac with the "GT130" and then benchmarking an old iMac with the "8800 GS"???????
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO A SITE THAT PROVIDES THIS SIMPLE AND SENSIBLE BENCHMARK. It's the only one that matters. Thank you.
I REALLY don't care what the hell FPS some non-Mac game gets whilst running a non-Mac operating system on an iMac. What I DO care about is how many FPS a Mac 3D application would get on the iMac (such as Second Life, Call of Duty 4, WoW, etc.).
So can someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FREAKING PLEASE post benchmarks of these software running on (a) the 8800 GS iMac with 3.02 GHz and (b) the GT 130 iMac with 3.02 GHz???????
THANKS!!!!!
-=DG=-
You can see benchmarks here on both iMac configurations you are interested in;
http://www.macworld.com/article/139350/2009/03/imacs_2009_benchmarks.html
Why yes, Dark Goob, I will help you out.
Compare these:
Xbench of 8800 GS imac vs. Xbench of 130 GT imac. From these marks it seems that actually the 130 GT GPU is *faster* even in this test where the older iMac's CPU marked better. Although in this test of another 8800 GS iMac, the old iMac actually beats the new iMac in almost everything except the disk test. But at worst, the graphics performance of the 130 GT seems to be on par with the old system, though its CPU seems to mark worse... why would that be? Yet another test of the 130 GT shows memory allocation to be better on the new one's RAM, but the memory is slower in other respects, and GPU and CPU performance are pretty much exactly the same.
The only thing that really seems improved on the new iMacs on these tests consistently seems to be the disk performance and memory allocation (even with slightly slower RAM, which is weird). I would imagine that the RAM being faster makes the hard drive read and write times faster? And certainly, hard drive read-and-write times could make applications such as Second Life or any game that loads textures from the HD perform better.
Yet again here is another 8800 GS iMac that performs seemingly better, by a small margin when compared with the newer 130 GT...
Further, I would issue a word of caution to those wishing to rush head-first into a new GPU Mac. I purchased the MacBook Pro with 8600M GT the day it came out (June 6, 2007). It was not until the release of Leopard Graphics Update 1.0 (Feb. 11, 2008, a day that I will remember forever) that Apple patched the horrific memory leaks that caused total system freezes requiring hard reboots , but even after that, we suffered through horrifically slow frame-rates until the release of 10.5.6 (!!!) in December, when Apple's fast-working video driver engineers F****ING FINALLY updated the video card drivers for this machine to resemble WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE WHEN THE F****ING MACHINES SHIPPED IN JUNE 2007!!. Yes, that is a year and a half of my life that I will never have back.
But frankly I would suggest going with the older iMac with the 8800, since Apple has had since April 2008 to work on drivers for this machine. Theoretically, based on my experiences, that means that by this point in time the drivers should at least be stable, if not fast. You may have to wait until September or October of this year (2009) before a Mac OS version release comes out that features a driver that really pumps the 8800 to its max performance... if my experiences were any indication.
But if you buy the new iMac now, you may have to wait until mid-2010 before the damn things work right. And since based on all the tests available to me they seem to be IDENTICAL, get the older 3.02ghz iMac 8800 if you can since you'll save money and see no performance differences.
Now on the other hand, if you reallllly want to get cutting edge, then get the ATI 4850 machine, since ATI is just better in all ways than NVIDIA (one of which is that ATI does not make f***ing defective GPUs that require Apple motherboard replacements like I had to have).
Sorry just a little bit anti-NVIDIA after the crappy time I've had with this machine. I'd go ATI in a heartbeat.
-=DG=-
TechPowerUp GPU-Z v0.3.3
Code:
* Added support for RV740 (HD 4750, HD 4770) and RV790 (HD 4890)
* Fixed G98 shader count
* Fixed GT200 process size calculation
* Added support for GTX 275Latest GPU-Z Screen. The exact same stats GPU-Z 3.2 showed and that I posted upon release. It now has the correct brand though - the GT 130 vs the 9800 variant it was showing in last version. I still stand by this being the best/fastest iMac produced yet - graphics and all. Yes, well for a few more weeks anyway.
You still had doubt
There were just some people saying that it was the 9600 GSO, because of some other GPU identifying programs.
Hi,
I'm new here so hello all first
@itommyboy can you do something for me please?
run in terminal:
ioreg -l -w0 -p IODeviceTree | grep device-properties > dump.txt
P.M. the dump please or post it here, I have a 9600 GT(PC) and want to use it w/o reflashing the bios...
Thanks in advance
I'm new here so hello all first
@itommyboy can you do something for me please?
run in terminal:
ioreg -l -w0 -p IODeviceTree | grep device-properties > dump.txt
P.M. the dump please or post it here, I have a 9600 GT(PC) and want to use it w/o reflashing the bios...
Thanks in advance
Same settings, 3ghz 08 iMac with ATI Card
10171 3DMarks
4029 MS2
4809 SM3/HDR
2806 CPU
10171 3DMarks
4029 MS2
4809 SM3/HDR
2806 CPU
I just installed Windows 7 RC to my iMac. GT130 drivers came with Windows Update and after that I installed Battlefield 2142. All settings on high and 1600x1200 resolution (highest available). No lag or anything, it's perfect!
BTW, scored 5.9 on Windows test
BTW, scored 5.9 on Windows test