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Get a 27in iMac now, or wait for 2017 refresh.
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I think I like the idea of being able to run whatever monitors I want and also just swapping out components at will and not being held a slave to apple's update cycle. Tempted to try a hackintosh but it looks like a major pita.
that is one of the main things I miss about my pc days .. but I've become very attached to OS X
which would be fine .. and I think I would have just gotten the current iMac but knowing the switch to all usb-c and tb3 and a better gpu is keeping me from buying it plus the Mac Pro is currently at 3 years old
While I have just gone through the buy-wait dilemma (I bought the 2015, and am glad that I did), I strongly urge you to save rather than borrow. I will spare you the long rant about debt, other than to share a remark by Jean Jacques Rousseau that seems relevant because taking out a loan means selling your future time to give someone else money:
"The money you have makes you free, the money you seek makes you a slave."
If increased product cost and debt are not important issues to you, then I say, why not wait, to get the T3, better GPU, etc.
Intel makes a quad core NUC ( Skull Canyon ) i7 similar to a mini's form factor. OS X would need to be installed but the hardware is mostly complete except for inserting RAM sticks and an m.2 flash drive. If you don't need a quad core i7, Intel's other NUCs are less money. Some have successfully hacked these machines with OS X.
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I would still buy now unless you plan to drive external 5k display.
In the list of potential 2017 upgrades tb3 is probably the most important thing.
Kaby Lake CPU, 4xx series gpu or usb-c wouldn't be enough to wait if I were on the market fir iMac.
2015 model is still great.
In the list of potential 2017 upgrades tb3 is probably the most important thing.
Kaby Lake CPU, 4xx series gpu or usb-c wouldn't be enough to wait if I were on the market fir iMac.
2015 model is still great.
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Agreed. Plus additional Apple quality control checks/vigilance might delay delivery a bit more ( a good thing in the end ) given Apple's recent experience with the MBP ( no recommendation from Consumer Reports etc. )
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From what I've read, Kaby Lake won't necessarily be a huge update over SkyLake ... I think the delay in Kaby Lake's release is also the main/only reason why there's a delay in the next iMac.
I myself am going to see if there's any kind of announcement during next week's CES tradeshow. If not, I'm going to go with what's already sitting in my Apple cart ... an entry level 27" iMac with the 512 SSD upgrade and a 16GB 3rd party ram kit.
I myself am going to see if there's any kind of announcement during next week's CES tradeshow. If not, I'm going to go with what's already sitting in my Apple cart ... an entry level 27" iMac with the 512 SSD upgrade and a 16GB 3rd party ram kit.
I was in a similar boat with the MacBook Pro in December of 2015. I was thinking the MacBook Pro 15 inch would be updated between April and June but I needed it sooner. Looking back, I am glad I didn't wait.
So true. Especially seeing how long ‘the Apple logo’ can maintain their premium RDF ;-)
This is nothing but greed on apples part, look at the current MacBook pro it has and 'old' cpu in it today.
Moving forward I have no more faith in apple, I really think tim cook has had his time at apple, profits are now becoming priority again and no longer dedicated to 'insanely' great products. Do you really need a touch bar on a laptop? What a waste and am sure people will try to justify it.
The only really good machine they have come out with was the mac pro tower pre 2013. Its easily upgradeable and still runs like a tank with new products coming out each year for it, do yourself a favour and buy one of these for $1k you will love them.
Moving forward I have no more faith in apple, I really think tim cook has had his time at apple, profits are now becoming priority again and no longer dedicated to 'insanely' great products. Do you really need a touch bar on a laptop? What a waste and am sure people will try to justify it.
The only really good machine they have come out with was the mac pro tower pre 2013. Its easily upgradeable and still runs like a tank with new products coming out each year for it, do yourself a favour and buy one of these for $1k you will love them.
So is it greed on Microsoft's part for putting in an old CPU into their Surface Studio?
The 45w Kaby lake CPU isn't out yet, and can you imagine if Apple put a slower CPU into their top of the line MBP? The complaining would be even worse.
I'm more than ready for an updated iMac, but I'm beginning to think people just want to see something new and shiny. I fail to see what Apple could add to the iMac that would make someone who already owns a 5K iMac feel they must upgrade.
A faster processor is practically meaningless at this point—unless they can double the speed. A faster GPU, that's great for 3D-rendering and such—but if you get the upgraded card now it's more than fast enough for any video or print creation work. Faster drive speed? The SSD in my 2013 (pre-5K iMac) writes 800MB PSD files pretty damn quick—I know there are faster SSDs, but I highly doubt they'll make that noticeable a difference.
For me updating a 2013 27" iMac with 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M w/4GB VRAM, and 500GB SSD, the only reason to upgrade is to get a 5K Retina display.
A faster processor is practically meaningless at this point—unless they can double the speed. A faster GPU, that's great for 3D-rendering and such—but if you get the upgraded card now it's more than fast enough for any video or print creation work. Faster drive speed? The SSD in my 2013 (pre-5K iMac) writes 800MB PSD files pretty damn quick—I know there are faster SSDs, but I highly doubt they'll make that noticeable a difference.
For me updating a 2013 27" iMac with 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M w/4GB VRAM, and 500GB SSD, the only reason to upgrade is to get a 5K Retina display.
I think your right, people are after something that is new and shiny, the problem is Apple can't change the design of the iMac too much, the design is iconic and looks great. Apart from adding new processors, graphics and so on what else can they really do? i feel that Apple are taking their time to come up with something new, which i don't mind, but people on these forums are stamping their feet and wanting things straight away, it doesn't always work that way. Also they would be the first to complain if there were issues. I really feel like Apple can't win, update the computers and they will get moaned at for not "innovating" yet if they spend more time, they get moaned at for "not caring about the iMac" or "forgetting about the iMac"
Personally i will be looking to upgrade my iMac new year (from a 2012 iMac) i don't mind if it's just a spec upgrade and they add the Touch Bar and Touch ID, i would be happy with that as i like the current design of the iMac, and i would probably love the 5K screen (my 2012 one is retina i believe).
How do you explain the price increase?? Those cpu's have been out for a while and doubt the cost that much...pure greed on apple's part, no justification...
Don't move the goal posts. You called Apple out for being greedy because they used the Skylake chipset instead of Kaby lake. I refuted that with two examples, one Microsoft did the exact same thing (used Skylake) and secondly, mentioned that there is no 45w Kaby lake chipset.
Regarding your latest post, I have no idea why they raised the price, perhaps because of the R&D costs of TB, or re-tooling to make a thinner laptop or it could very well be greed, I don't know but then as I mentioned I wasn't addressing the price increase but rather your post about using the older chipset.
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One other point, while my iMac (2015 5k) is virtually sealed up, I will say its insanely great. Its the best computer I've had.