Anyone buying a laptop today will be obsolete in 3 months....it will take apple another year before they adopt baby lake, they are obviously taking their time in staying ahead of things....Whether the computer weighs another 200 grams is really not that important the design has been done...like I said pure greed...they could have updated with skyline many moons ago.
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Anyone buying a laptop today will be obsolete in 3 months....it will take apple another year before they adopt baby lake, they are obviously taking their time in staying ahead of things....Whether the computer weighs another 200 grams is really not that important the design has been done...like I said pure greed...they could have updated with skyline many moons ago.
I believe most ’d be happy with cheaper SSD. (and perhaps maintaining the ability to replace your RAM, as is now the case with the 27" 5K iMac range)
I wouldn't hold your breath and assume there will be one. Even if there is I'm confident you'll just see a slightly different machine with specs that most likely won't make you kick yourself for not waiting. Judging by the nMBP a few friends kicked themselves for waiting 3 years for an overpriced box of disappointment and have since gone windows...
Saying any large corporation is motivated by greed is a given and not really news. Corporations use a less negative word to describe their motivation: profit. It is easy to be angry at virtually all corporations because they all seek profit by any legal means ( offshoring money etc. ) possible but I'd rather enjoy my day and not be constantly angry. If you want to do something to convey your displeasure, posts on MR are probably the least influential. IMO more effective measures are: (1) Send Apple feedback (2) Vote with your wallet
There are enough flamewar and bikeshedding threads on this forum for this sort of nonsense, please keep this out of a thread from someone actually asking for help.
No, a laptop or desktop bought today will not be "obsolete" in 3 months. It will perhaps not have the very latest in processing power, and therefore might be a few percentage points or even tens of percentage points worse in performance, or power/performance, or price/performance, or some other metric. But it will still be every bit as useful as the day it was bought. "Obsolete" does not mean "not the very very very newest bleeding edge".
(I will disregard your actual statement, since it's to be expected that the purchaser will not themselves be obsolete...)
For mine I got rid of my 2015 27" Retina iMac as it was difficult to use with glaucoma and a cataract, and replaced it with a late 2013 (built 2015) 27" non Retina 3.5GHz i7 with 512GB flash storage and 24GB of memory and noticed a fair improvement over the Retina model 3.3GHz so the new release won't interest me.
Using Flash and an external Thunderbolt SSD for backup and SuperDuper, never saw backups run at the current speed.
Using Flash and an external Thunderbolt SSD for backup and SuperDuper, never saw backups run at the current speed.
I just ordered one now with the 27" 5k, 4.0GHz m390 - will buy RAM from Crucial (now OWC due to the CL, I'll go with Crucials CL13 which is the same as Apple's Hynix ram).
The RAM upgrade was the most important factor to me and the ports on the back, ofc there's adapters but I'd rather skip those.
"Non upgradeable ram" is the worst fear to me, why I jumped on this one. Could perhaps be done with the new one, or else just open the screen but personally I'd not do that.
The RAM upgrade was the most important factor to me and the ports on the back, ofc there's adapters but I'd rather skip those.
"Non upgradeable ram" is the worst fear to me, why I jumped on this one. Could perhaps be done with the new one, or else just open the screen but personally I'd not do that.
Man, some of you guys really are spoiled over here. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the hardware in the current iMac. Skylake is a very good processor and there really is very little to be gained with a Kaby Lake processor. I run both in my shop in PCs and it's next to impossible to tell the difference on similar clock speed CPUs from a users standpoint. The biggest change I'm seeing is the switch to DDR4, but even then the difference would be hard to notice. If you are a person who needs intensive graphics, maybe the newer graphics adapter will benefit you.
The display is the current 27" iMacs is already better than most displays run by the vast majority of PC users. Are they going to come out with something better than 5k? Maybe Apple will change the chassis design like they did with the MBP, but does that really matter?
This probably comes down to bragging rights about missing out on the latest hardware if one buys now. Such is life with most electronics. There's always something newer and better right around the corner.
Went to buy another refurb for the office and there's only one available now at just under £2700 so need to keep refreshing that page.
As others have said, the current machine is well fast enough and has an absolutely stunning, class leading display. Apart from USB-C, I've had no qualms in buying one last week and hopefully another this week.
As others have said, the current machine is well fast enough and has an absolutely stunning, class leading display. Apart from USB-C, I've had no qualms in buying one last week and hopefully another this week.
I wish I could just buy the current one. It's not that I think there's anything bad about it, it's not that I'm waiting for some "killer feature" in the new one, in fact, I'll be disappointed when they get rid of user-upgradeable memory (most likely) and optical audio out (guaranteed). But that OCD side of me can't stand the idea of getting something and then having the new one come out a few months later. I wish I wasn't like that, but...I am.
The current iMac GPUs with their 28nm tech originating from 2011 are definitely putting me off.
It's 2017 after all. 14nm or no deal.
In all reality I'd likely be fine with the current offering, but out of principle I just can't do it. The improved GPU manufacturing process should also be tangibly useful for tight enclosure devices, such as the iMac.
(+ USB-C/TB3 for added bonus)
It's 2017 after all. 14nm or no deal.
In all reality I'd likely be fine with the current offering, but out of principle I just can't do it. The improved GPU manufacturing process should also be tangibly useful for tight enclosure devices, such as the iMac.
(+ USB-C/TB3 for added bonus)
I'm the same way. The current iMac is fine for today. What about in 1-2 years when everything is USB-C. Also the graphics card will be 3-4 years old by then.
I'm going through the same dilemma, though I've opted to wait until the new iMac is released - whenever that may be? Reason being, the whole point for me in upgrading is USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 and the ability to drive an external monitor like the Apple partnered 21" 4K LG screen as a secondary monitor. Still bothers me Apple doesn't release a standalone display anymore, but at very least the LG is designed to work with the Mac.
If I didn't have that requirement, and was using the iMac as just a single display unit I'd buy the current iMac 5K "today". No other reason in my opinion to wait generally speaking.
If I didn't have that requirement, and was using the iMac as just a single display unit I'd buy the current iMac 5K "today". No other reason in my opinion to wait generally speaking.
I don't know why they'd get rid of user-upgradeable RAM - there's a clear benefit to doing that in a laptop when space is at a premium, but its very different on an iMac.
Why do you think they'll ditch the optical audio out?
I'm a bit OCD like you about new tech, but I think a side effect of getting older is getting (slightly) wiser about stuff like this and I'm getting over that need to have the latest tech, especially as computers are lasting so long these days, particularly for what i use them for.
The 21" iMac's ram cannot be upgraded.
I'd say its apple's philosophical move to making its Mac products disposable commodities.
I did not know that... every day's a school day.
That's a strange one alright as I really don't understand that thinking.
That's to drive everyone to choose the 27". If they do it with the 27", what's left to drive users to, other than non-Apple hardware?
sfwalter wrote above:
"The current iMac is fine for today. What about in 1-2 years when everything is USB-C."
Fearless, fearless prediction:
Everything WILL NOT BE "USB-c" in 1-2 years.
I doubt that 30% of the USB-related products on the market will be USB-c in 5 years.
"The current iMac is fine for today. What about in 1-2 years when everything is USB-C."
Fearless, fearless prediction:
Everything WILL NOT BE "USB-c" in 1-2 years.
I doubt that 30% of the USB-related products on the market will be USB-c in 5 years.
The issue is that you are paying for tech that was release 1 year and 5 months, nearly a year and half since Imac release. It is the same price has was released in 2015. The same tech released around that time, as now has dropped in price. The same goes for Man Mini and Mac Pro. Both doesn't deserve the price Apple is asking.
I for one will not spend money on something, in my view is considered old tech, since there is newer processors and graphics cards released since then, that Apple could easily make a simple refresh.
I looked at refurbed 27" iMacs on Apple's site, and they cost almost as much as similarly configured new models. Weird.
USB Type C is basically dead all the manufacturers are basically throwing it out because its worthless and nobody uses it.
TB3 is also a worthless upgrade. I doubt very seriously that Type C will last more than 5 months more before being tossed into the Failed Technologies list.
[doublepost=1491093677][/doublepost]I for one refuse to use Type C and will stick to USB 3.1 which is not type C just the latest USB 3 for a long time.
TB3 is also a worthless upgrade. I doubt very seriously that Type C will last more than 5 months more before being tossed into the Failed Technologies list.
[doublepost=1491093677][/doublepost]I for one refuse to use Type C and will stick to USB 3.1 which is not type C just the latest USB 3 for a long time.