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Windows 10 is absolutely terrible, and in about 3 to 6 months you are going to have a plethora of issues with it.

What is going to happen at that time? My coworker has been using Windows 10 for the past six or nine months without issue. Look into your crystal ball and tell us all of the dastardly plan Microsoft will hatch to change everything in three months.
 
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What is going to happen at that time? My coworker has been using Windows 10 for the past six or nine months without issue. Look into your crystal ball and tell us all of the dastardly plan Microsoft will hatch to change everything in three months.

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Honestly though, too many people took MistrSynistr bait and replied to his opinion on Windows 10.

I think my genuine question got lost or forgot on page 1 of this thread but as a OSX user going back to Windows 10 soon, can someone recommend me what the best Antivirus application is nowadays? I used to use NOD32 back in 2011 on Windows. MalwareBytes is obviously always worth having installed.
 
You just reminded me of:
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:D

Honestly though, too many people took MistrSynistr bait and replied to his opinion on Windows 10.

I think my genuine question got lost or forgot on page 1 of this thread but as a OSX user going back to Windows 10 soon, can someone recommend me what the best Antivirus application is nowadays? I used to use NOD32 back in 2011 on Windows. MalwareBytes is obviously always worth having installed.

He, he.

I use Avast and Malwarebytes on my Windows 7 machine. I have used Comodo in the past, but I think it has become bloated over the last few years. I don't know what is best. I always use whatever is light and free, browse conscientiously, and never get viruses. If you are using the Web intelligently, I don't think one, specific scanner matters much.
 
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Honestly though, too many people took MistrSynistr bait and replied to his opinion on Windows 10.

I think my genuine question got lost or forgot on page 1 of this thread but as a OSX user going back to Windows 10 soon, can someone recommend me what the best Antivirus application is nowadays? I used to use NOD32 back in 2011 on Windows. MalwareBytes is obviously always worth having installed.
I don't run anything beyond that provided in Windows itself (Defender).
 
Vlug the built in defender in win 10 is fine, and mac's are not virus free either. this whole switching back to PC was never about the OS anyway, both OSX and win 10 are very good and solid, in the right hands.

The thread was about paying premium prices for older hardware in a slick design box, I am just saying the slick design alone is not worth the premium price when you can have all the new tech for the same price or less. and yes u have to run win 10 but its a good OS and stable which is all you can ask of any OS you use.

imclovin

The only way I can describe the perfomace is in what I have found having a Samsung 850pro SSD drive in this PC, both drives are fast, but the M2 is faster, its write speed and read is faster, can you see it, well I think so, the machine is just so responsive, in reads and writes to M2 its just faster. but if I were you I would wait till the next 960pro comes out which is any time soon as its even faster, so a better performer still, with a new controller and higher density memory.
 
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Windows is fine in the workplace, I use it there myself.

I don't have much to say about windows in the workplace (because it's the workplace).

There are some instances where Mac may even be worse in the workplace.

But Mac does suit my needs better at home, no doubt about that.
 
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What is going to happen at that time? My coworker has been using Windows 10 for the past six or nine months without issue. Look into your crystal ball and tell us all of the dastardly plan Microsoft will hatch to change everything in three months.

If by "without issue" your coworker means constant restarts, pop ups, remove of devices and plug ins and other things they put up with, then yes. I'm sure if you have no other OS to compare it to it's rainbows and unicorns.

It's the same old windows, more like Windows 7 with a black skin on it with more issues than windows 7. It's so bad in fact, my WHOLE company I work for hated it so much that the owner bought brand new 5k iMacs for the whole Art Department and SSD Mac Minis for the rest of the company and we dumped all the PCs in the trash bin outside.
 
If by "without issue" your coworker means constant restarts, pop ups, remove of devices and plug ins and other things they put up with, then yes. I'm sure if you have no other OS to compare it to it's rainbows and unicorns.

It's the same old windows, more like Windows 7 with a black skin on it with more issues than windows 7. It's so bad in fact, my WHOLE company I work for hated it so much that the owner bought brand new 5k iMacs for the whole Art Department and SSD Mac Minis for the rest of the company and we dumped all the PCs in the trash bin outside.

Well, Windows is not as simple and intuitive as macOS and artists generally are not the most technically savvy and are therefore the least likely to use Windows, when compared to macOS. While we're at it, the same reason also applies to Linux and why there are seemingly more users of Linux in technically savvy departments - sciences, engineering and computer sciences.

As for removal of devices (USB flash drives and HDDs, for example), Windows' hot plug-n-play solution is better than macOS's - you do not have to explicitly eject any portable drive by default. I'm not sure if that's what you are talking about.
 
If by "without issue" your coworker means constant restarts, pop ups, remove of devices and plug ins and other things they put up with, then yes. I'm sure if you have no other OS to compare it to it's rainbows and unicorns.

It's the same old windows, more like Windows 7 with a black skin on it with more issues than windows 7. It's so bad in fact, my WHOLE company I work for hated it so much that the owner bought brand new 5k iMacs for the whole Art Department and SSD Mac Minis for the rest of the company and we dumped all the PCs in the trash bin outside.

Ha, ha. Your coworkers sound pathetically inept. I suggest basic computer classes. Myself and the designer I sit across from have never had any issues Adobe applications, any of the plugins we use, or the output devices and RIPs we print to. XP, OSX, Windows 10 - it all just works. Windows is actually less awkward and actually works better for our imposition software and RIP access, so I keep this ten year old XP machine next to going all day, every day. My main system is a 2015 iMac. Knowing each OS allows me to be agnostic and use each for what they do best. Don't blame the OS for operator error.
 
Ha, ha. Your coworkers sound pathetically inept. I suggest basic computer classes. Myself and the designer I sit across from have never had any issues Adobe applications, any of the plugins we use, or the output devices and RIPs we print to. XP, OSX, Windows 10 - it all just works. Windows is actually less awkward and actually works better for our imposition software and RIP access, so I keep this ten year old XP machine next to going all day, every day. My main system is a 2015 iMac. Knowing each OS allows me to be agnostic and use each for what they do best. Don't blame the OS for operator error.

I own the surface pro 4, an rimac and macbook. I enjoy Windows 10 but by no means do I think it is as polished or usable (for me due to a lack of unix) as OSX.

The fact that windows is a big tent that has to work on an infinite combination of hardware limits it quite a lot IMO. You end up with all these funky DPI scaling problems, driver problems, inconsistent UI (win32 vs metro), catastrophically worse battery life and so on.

Windows 10 is certainly usable but I think more highly of OSX.
 
imclovin

The only way I can describe the perfomace is in what I have found having a Samsung 850pro SSD drive in this PC, both drives are fast, but the M2 is faster, its write speed and read is faster, can you see it, well I think so, the machine is just so responsive, in reads and writes to M2 its just faster. but if I were you I would wait till the next 960pro comes out which is any time soon as its even faster, so a better performer still, with a new controller and higher density memory.

Ok thanks for the tip I was planning on waiting till next year anyway so I can deduct it on next years tax. Will it be called the same? Do you know what speeds they promised? I'm planning to buy a 2gb ssd so might be more appealing to get the current if there's any price reduction after the new one comes out. The current is 3500/2100 speeds after all.


Actually! I think the one I'm referring to which I picked out is the latest. 960 Pro. Since it came out in October so it's less than a month old. So no price reduction on that for a while :D but definitely what I will get.
 
The 960 pro can read upto 3000 and has a new controller, it runs cooler also. I think you will be pleased with the speed of it.
 
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