Goodbye iPhone

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Those with an iPhone 5 who value their battery life should also have stuck with iOS 6.

I see this put about by a few people as an incontrovertible truth, but without doubt the battery on my 5 has been significantly improved by IOS 7. The first couple of days were ropey sure, but for weeks now it's been great; I can absolutely rely on it to get me right through a long day with plenty to spare, which i never could before.

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Indeed. The Nexus 5 bests the iPhone in practically every category. I hate to say it, but it's true... Apple really needs to step up its game. I expected new features in iOS 7, but got none; just a redesign that made it boring and harder to use.

The Touch ID and 64 bit processor on that Nexus must be really something.

 

[missygal]

I left also and was back in a month!!

 

[Tubamajuba]

perhaps to spark some conversation that's actually informative about the other OS or their experience. too bad one could come in here delete all but a small handful of replies to narrow it down to informative.

Except those kind of conversations never go well. If you want information on other mobile operating systems, there are plenty of forums around the internet that are designated for discussion of other operating systems like Android and Windows Phone. Go there, ask questions about the OS you want to learn more about, then make your own informed decision based off of what you learned and what you already know. I wouldn't try to spark a discussion about iOS on an Android forum, that's for sure. For that matter, I don't know why people try to do it here instead of on the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum that MacRumors specifically set up for such discussions.

The Touch ID and 64 bit processor on that Nexus must be really something.

Well that's different, computers have had both of those things for years now, Apple did nothing special, etc. etc. etc.

 

[Max(IT)]

Indeed. The Nexus 5 bests the iPhone in practically every category. I hate to say it, but it's true... Apple really needs to step up its game. I expected new features in iOS 7, but got none; just a redesign that made it boring and harder to use.

Nexus 5 beats iPhone 5s ?
Well for me the war is over in the exact moment I switch on the phone: android is not something I could use on my everyday smartphone.

 

[kunai]

Nexus 5 beats iPhone 5s ?
Well for me the war is over in the exact moment I switch on the phone: android is not something I could use on my everyday smartphone.

Care to give any reasons why, or are you just going to blindly proclaim "Hail Apple"?

 

[apollo1444]

Not anymore.

would you explain us how not anymore?

in 6 months from now the nexus 4 will be abandoned by google just as they just abandoned the galaxy nexus today.

Don't make me laugh with the Nexus 5 it's got terrible camera just watch the vergecast and you'll know what they have to say about it, also battery life is just horridness.

 

[SusanK]

would you explain us how not anymore?

in 6 months from now the nexus 4 will be abandoned by google just as they just abandoned the galaxy nexus today.

Don't make me laugh with the Nexus 5 it's got terrible camera just watch the vergecast and you'll know what they have to say about it, also battery life is just horridness.

Please reread my post. I made no reference to any phone brand. Thank you.

 

[Manatlt]

Care to give any reasons why, or are you just going to blindly proclaim "Hail Apple"?

Because Android is still buggy as crap (Yes I'm aware iOS7 IS too, but why should I switch from a buggy OS to another buggy OS?...and start again?!)

Most of the apps on the iOS are still superior to Android's.

Only 2 year support with the Nexus devices...

Nothing is comparable to iMessage and FaceTime with integration on Android unless you get maybe a 3rd party app.

I also hate the design of the music app on Android Jelly Bean...

The use of AirPlay.

This may not be the reasons apollo1444 will give, but this is why I'm sticking with Apple.

 

[Max(IT)]

Care to give any reasons why, or are you just going to blindly proclaim "Hail Apple"?

Dude, I'm a tech enthusiastic, I'm an android early adopter (my first android smartphone was an Acer with 1.4, then a Sony Xperia 1.5, another Sony with 1.6 before switch to HTC Aria (Gratia here in Italy) with Android 2.1 (upgraded to 2.2) and a Samsung Galaxy S Advance (and a Galaxy Ace 2 for a while).
In this exact moment in my house there is a Samsung Galaxy S3 (my son's phone) and a white S3 Mini (my wife's), plus a Lenovo tablet.
When I speak about Android, I know it better than most of the fandroid trolling in this forum.
Android is improving over the time, but it lacks of the coherent and user friendly ecosystem Apple provides with iOS 7 and any iPhone released so far.
You may be impressed by technical specs of an Android flagship, but I know that impressive hardware is just trying to hide a fragmented and not coherent software behind.
There will always be an Android phone in my house, but never as my primary smartphone so far.

 

[CB1234]

Dude, I'm a tech enthusiastic, I'm an android early adopter (my first android smartphone was an Acer with 1.4, then a Sony Xperia 1.5, another Sony with 1.6 before switch to HTC Aria (Gratia here in Italy) with Android 2.1 (upgraded to 2.2) and a Samsung Galaxy S Advance (and a Galaxy Ace 2 for a while).
In this exact moment in my house there is a Samsung Galaxy S3 (my son's phone) and a white S3 Mini (my wife's), plus a Lenovo tablet.
When I speak about Android, I know it better than most of the fandroid trolling in this forum.
Android is improving over the time, but it lacks of the coherent and user friendly ecosystem Apple provides with iOS 7 and any iPhone released so far.
You may be impressed by technical specs of an Android flagship, but I know that impressive hardware is just trying to hide a fragmented and not coherent software behind.
There will always be an Android phone in my house, but never as my primary smartphone so far.

I guess you could be called 'fanboydroid'....

Seriously man, I am impressed with your collection... I promise to ask your advise before my next purchase of smartphone....

Whatdaya think of iPhone 5s ?

 

[clauzzz203]

Having used ios 7 on my ipad and iphone 4, I have hated nearly every aspect of it for the past month. My iphone 4 has became unusable because it is not upto the job of running ios7 (it was perfect on 6!). Maybe I'm paranoid and think apple done this so to make us update to the the latest device? Either way it made me intqrigued to try android os. And to be fair. For what I want out of my devices it seems ok. Especially moving my music over to google music in the cloud, which is one of the main functions of my phone.

Fandroids are getting more pathetic by the day.

 

[Max(IT)]

I guess you could be called 'fanboydroid'....

Seriously man, I am impressed with your collection... I promise to ask your advise before my next purchase of smartphone....

Whatdaya think of iPhone 5s ?

Actually I didn't mention my Lumia 800 (wp7, then 7.5, now gone) and my Lumia 620 (wp8 in my pocket) ...
I tried also Samsung Wave just to have a look at BadaOs a couple years ago.

It is my hobby, and having a teenager son and a wife help me a little bit.
I don't like to sound like a blind apple fan. I love apple and its ecosystem, I'm an Apple user since 1990, but I like to try everything before judge.

To answer your question, I like iPhone 5s but I don't know if I'm going to buy one. As usual is not a big leap from the previous generation (actually technically IT IS, but it is more a potential leap than a real one), so maybe I will spare some cash for iPhone 6. Don't know ...

I like iPhone 5c very much. I was tempted to sell my iPhone 5 to buy a 32 Gb 5c (maybe green). If I was a 4/4s owner I would buy it. I just think is some 80€ too expensive for its real value. In the 499-549€ range should be its right price.

 

[CB1234]

Actually I didn't mention my Lumia 800 (wp7, then 7.5, now gone) and my Lumia 620 (wp8 in my pocket) ...
I tried also Samsung Wave just to have a look at BadaOs a couple years ago.

It is my hobby, and having a teenager son and a wife help me a little bit.
I don't like to sound like a blind apple fan. I love apple and its ecosystem, I'm an Apple user since 1990, but I like to try everything before judge.

To answer your question, I like iPhone 5s but I don't know if I'm going to buy one. As usual is not a big leap from the previous generation (actually technically IT IS, but it is more a potential leap than a real one), so maybe I will spare some cash for iPhone 6. Don't know ...

I like iPhone 5c very much. I was tempted to sell my iPhone 5 to buy a 32 Gb 5c (maybe green). If I was a 4/4s owner I would buy it. I just think is some 80€ too expensive for its real value. In the 499-549€ range should be its right price.

Great to hear and meet someone who is, not either a blind follower of apple nor a blind basher.. Your words have more value then all the threads put together here on MR, just from the sheer experience you have of using many different OS's and hardware too.. Well done to you sir....

I am on iPhone 4s. My youngest son is waiting for me to upgrade so he can have my 4s..

Although I have in my signature that I am waiting for 5s, I am not convinced that 'a leap in terms of usage and experience on 5s is sufficiently great enough for me to spend money', just as you say....

I am still sitting on the fence, but sound of owning a iPhone 6, which I hope will be radically different from a 4s that I currently own, sounds very very tempting....

Thanks for your advise Max(IT) and have a good day...

PS: By the way I just flew back from San Remo/Imperia so if you stay anywhere near that, I must say I had a cracking good weather last week... nice beaches too...

 

[BvizioN]

I like iPhone 5c very much. I was tempted to sell my iPhone 5 to buy a 32 Gb 5c (maybe green). If I was a 4/4s owner I would buy it. I just think is some 80€ too expensive for its real value. In the 499-549€ range should be its right price.

I would have gotten 5C straight away instead of 5S if it had the touch ID, new camera and the slow-mo video. Much more prefer the feel of 5C.

 

[Max(IT)]

Great to hear and meet someone who is, not either a blind follower of apple nor a blind basher.. Your words have more value then all the threads put together here on MR, just from the sheer experience you have of using many different OS's and hardware too.. Well done to you sir....

I am on iPhone 4s. My youngest son is waiting for me to upgrade so he can have my 4s..

Although I have in my signature that I am waiting for 5s, I am not convinced that 'a leap in terms of usage and experience on 5s is sufficiently great enough for me to spend money', just as you say....

I am still sitting on the fence, but sound of owning a iPhone 6, which I hope will be radically different from a 4s that I currently own, sounds very very tempting....

Thanks for your advise Max(IT) and have a good day...

PS: By the way I just flew back from San Remo/Imperia so if you stay anywhere near that, I must say I had a cracking good weather last week... nice beaches too...

Coming from a 4s believe me that 5s is a good upgrade ...

In iPhone 6 I hope for a slightly bigger screen (no more than 4.7" I wish) and maybe a form factor similar to the iPad Air and Mini.
But who knows ???
We don't even know when it will be released ...

 

[sk1wbw]

Not anymore.

It's purely subjective. I've used cell phones since the LED display days. Android, Palm, iOS, and Blackberry. iOS is the best out there, imho. As for the OP and his whining about the iPhone 4... I had iOS 7.0.3 on my iPhone 4 and it ran perfectly. At least a 3 year old phone is supported by Apple. Google even states outright that they only have an 18 month window of support for Android, which is why the Galaxy Nexus isn't getting KitKat. Imagine if Apple said this.

 

[Count Blah]

Having used ios 7 on my ipad and iphone 4, I have hated nearly every aspect of it for the past month. My iphone 4 has became unusable because it is not upto the job of running ios7 (it was perfect on 6!). Maybe I'm paranoid and think apple done this so to make us update to the the latest device? Either way it made me intqrigued to try android os. And to be fair. For what I want out of my devices it seems ok. Especially moving my music over to google music in the cloud, which is one of the main functions of my phone.

Nexus 5. After my debacle of an experience with the batter on my 4s with iOS7, i"m seriously considering it when I'm forced to make a phone change in a couple of months.

 

[CB1234]

Coming from a 4s believe me that 5s is a good upgrade ...

In iPhone 6 I hope for a slightly bigger screen (no more than 4.7" I wish) and maybe a form factor similar to the iPad Air and Mini.
But who knows ???
We don't even know when it will be released ...

I wouldn't mind a slightly bigger screen, but not too big as I feel it may start looking like a 'mini' mini iPad. But a slightly bigger screen would be great for my old eyes...

The thing with owning Apple products is, even though you maybe waiting for a model which you think you would like to own in future, you can still enjoy the latest iOS and features on your old iPhones..

 

[iHateLaggyStuff]

Im sure this post will send shock wave throughout Apple. They're begging you to stay.

/s

 

[nfl46]

I still don't understand why people create topics like this. Dang, its just a phone, you don't have to let the world know! Lol.

 

[apollo1444]

Please reread my post. I made no reference to any phone brand. Thank you.

you just said not anymore...

 

[cmichaelb]

I still don't understand why people create topics like this. Dang, its just a phone, you don't have to let the world know! Lol.

No kidding. Use what you like and move on with your life lol.

I think it's really iPhone envy.

 

[kunai]

Dude, I'm a tech enthusiastic, I'm an android early adopter (my first android smartphone was an Acer with 1.4, then a Sony Xperia 1.5, another Sony with 1.6 before switch to HTC Aria (Gratia here in Italy) with Android 2.1 (upgraded to 2.2) and a Samsung Galaxy S Advance (and a Galaxy Ace 2 for a while).
In this exact moment in my house there is a Samsung Galaxy S3 (my son's phone) and a white S3 Mini (my wife's), plus a Lenovo tablet.
When I speak about Android, I know it better than most of the fandroid trolling in this forum.
Android is improving over the time, but it lacks of the coherent and user friendly ecosystem Apple provides with iOS 7 and any iPhone released so far.
You may be impressed by technical specs of an Android flagship, but I know that impressive hardware is just trying to hide a fragmented and not coherent software behind.
There will always be an Android phone in my house, but never as my primary smartphone so far.

Not a single time did you mention a Nexus device. "Fragmentation" is caused by stupid OEMs doing stupid things to Android and screwing up the user experience.

And no, I don't care about specifications. I don't game or do anything like that on my phones... I use them to call people, talk, text, email, and on the occasion, web browsing. It's the EXPERIENCE I love. Being able to set something other than the Google apps as default. Being able to arrange your OWN icons instead of having Apple tell you which ones you always need to have on your homescreen... it's the little touches and the attention to detail of a stock Android/Nexus experience device that make Android so appealing to me.

Samsung is by no means the best that Android can offer. It's hyped up and Samsung is ruining Android's reputation; they were (along with Motorola and HTC in the beginning) the ones who started the fragmentation in the first place.

If you want to see a true match for the iPhone, stop buying Samsung junk and pick up a Moto X or a Nexus 5. They're the only phones that are worthy of the Android name.

Fragmentation is a natural part of an open software ecosystem. If you don't like it, buy a device that comes with pure Google software on it. Don't like having to choose?

Stick with your locked-down iPhone.

By the way, Woz encourages jailbreaking and uses an Android phone.

 

[attila]

Goodbye! You'll be back in a year. You have been warned.

Apple provides the best user experience, and it does that best with its newest devices. Always been that way, always going to be that way.

Yes, in a year when Apple releases 7.5 which actually works and actually looks better than iOS6.

An OS which isn't riddled with UX and UI flaws.

 

[attila]

iOS7 is incredibly valuable to users who also own a Mac. We're starting to really see Apple focus on integration between iOS and OSX where it counts. You'd be surprised how useful Safari's iCloud Tabs and the new OSX Maps Send-To-iPhone features have become.

Software bugs will always exist in every product (as long as humans are the ones writing the code lol).

iCloud Tabs, Read Later, Notes and Reminders where all there in iOS6.

iOS7 doesn't provide that much more value to a Mac user apart from AirDrop and Maps. Outside the US, Maps still isn't that good, especially for pedestrians, so I've gotten used to the Google Maps app and the website which offer same (if note better) features - the Google Maps app is compatible with iOS6.