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I've never had to do that extra ritual with any other OS or even Apple DOS, ProDOS, GS/OS or classic MacOS on 68K.
Umm.. on System Software 3-7 all you had to do was drag the application to the trash bin and delete it. That hasn't changed since the early 1990s.
And again, with GS/OS you are making an apples-to-oranges comparison; and especially with Apple DOS, it is an apples-to-vegemite comparison. There is no GUI for Apple DOS or ProDOS.
BL.
I'm referring to the weird ritual of sliding an icon after installing software.
Only real Apple fanboys and not fake ones know there was a GUI but I consider myself a cross platformer.
Mouse Desk
Yet countless millions of users like myself seem to find using it just absolutly fine…
When one focuses on negativity, one will always find faults.
No, with Windows you have to be at the mercy of the system installer, the registry and more entries in the every growing SxS cache. Makes so much more sense…
I'm referring to the weird ritual of sliding an icon after installing software.
Only real Apple fanboys and not fake ones know there was a GUI but I consider myself a cross platformer.
Mouse Desk
Interesting. My IIe that I've had since 1983 came with both DOS 3.3 and ProDOS 8 2.0.1, and never included a GUI for either. It was easy to load support for BASIC in it because DOS 3.3 had it built in, so ProDOS was barely used, and even that was only for diagnosing my ImageWriter.
BL.
Extra ritual?
Download a DMG, by default it automatically opens to display the app with a shortcut to your applications folder to make it easier to install apps in the typical spot, drag app where you want it (short cut to Applications is right there).
This isn't "after installing" that's the actual installation process for most apps.
Windows?
Download EXE or MSI, run installer, click through license agreement, optionally click through browse to select where to install it, click next, possibly enter password for UAC elevation prompt, click next, wait for installer to complete, then click finish.
You forgot the bit about when you realise that you forgot to untick the box for the bloatware that Changes your home page or adds a task bar too.
For these apps, you don't actually "install" them at all --- you're just moving them to a location that is a default home for executables. These are self-contained apps that don't require installing a bunch of extra files throughout the file system, so when you download them, you are capable of both running them as is, and deleting them (completely) as is. No control center add/remove programs, no complex install/remove process.
Of course, there are other apps that have legitimate installers for macOS (and should have a bundled uninstaller to clean up when you want to delete it), but what the user is complaining about is laughable at best.
My fav mac game is to get the trackpad pointer to work or be visible after activating the program bar.
I'm on Level 10.14.6!
hurrah for me!
I'm amazed at the screenshot above--it looks like the screen was amazingly good looking, given the realities of the hardware!
I'm curious if anyone knows this...but how well did it perform? I can kind of imagine the Apple II hardware struggling. Indeed, I remember a high school teacher getting some IIe software that could print AppleWork documents that looked like they'd been done on a Mac. It took something like at least twenty minutes to print a single page.
Ouch. If it took that long with AppleWork, that was a problem. I could use The Print Shop and have a page printed out in 30-75 seconds. Granted I can't remember if that was written for DOS or ProDOS, but even when I used the ImageWriter Utility disk and printed from that (which was definitely written in ProDOS), it still took seconds to print.
BL.
Look at businesses and how they handle things. It was only recently where a few businesses I know of that JUST got off of the 1803 build of Windows 10. That is a 2018 build of Windows 10! Three years ago! Companies waited for the very end to even upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7. My critical work macs are one OS behind. My critical Windows systems are still on Windows 10 and NOT on Windows 11. Its called planning.
OP posted here, alternatives to Mac hardware. Good. OP created an account just for this bitchfest. Not good.
I will say that since the CSAM stuff I ditched my macbook air, and have been pleasantly surprised by Windows 11 on both my Gaming Desktop (don't mention that the new macbooks can't game, then the fanboys really come out), and Surface Pro 7 (eBay for $600). And I haven't missed a beat. Windows is just fine. Mac is just fine. However, only Windows allows me to really get in there with powershell. I can even *gasp* make registry changes.
At this point, Windows seems more open
I will say that since the CSAM stuff I ditched my macbook air, and have been pleasantly surprised by Windows 11 on both my Gaming Desktop (don't mention that the new macbooks can't game, then the fanboys really come out), and Surface Pro 7 (eBay for $600). And I haven't missed a beat. Windows is just fine. Mac is just fine. However, only Windows allows me to really get in there with powershell. I can even *gasp* make registry changes.
At this point, Windows seems more open
Have you even seen how Windows has been dealing with Printing lately? Its a mess too.
I haven't found this to be true at all? Interesting...we use a lot of old enterprise printers.
Printers in general are THE WORST device to ever exist in an office. I have dealt with non stop printer issues for years. It would just work one day and not work the next day and work fine the following day. Windows print spooling is a mess, canceling a print job sometimes doesn't cancel.
Working in IT in 2021 and STILL dealing with daily printer issues is quite irritating.
Working in IT in 2021 and STILL dealing with daily printer issues is quite irritating.
I do not make backups, but I only have applications on my internal drive. Therefore, I have in the past wiped the drive and re-installed the previous OS when things didn't work. Most recently was the whole Catalina update. Caused kernel panics 4 times every day so I went back to what I was using before. Apple confirmed it was the OS and NOT my system, and now Catalina runs just fine on that mac.Based on the attitude presented by the OP, he was melodramatic and calling that out is fair.
The OP made zero checks and denied any responsibility and that is the issue me and plenty others take with that entitled post. Sure you may still somehow believe that Tim Cook should personally apologize, but it’s just not going to happen.
The OP had 15 years to learn the tool. Making an entire backup is also not rocket science and there is plenty of help available - in the Information Age. Those who chose to remain uninformed cannot always be helped.
If you drive your car for 15 years and then suddenly decide to try reverse gear for the first time and crash into something you’re not going to complain about your car manufacturer for your accident, or maybe some will…
Oh, and Apple has a had a months-long beta phase to help mitigate these issues, and that for many years and releases.
20H2, 21H1 and Windows 11 have all given me problems recently. In fact, only two of the "twice a year" Windows updates have been flawless for me. Its not perfect and sunshine and rainbows on Windows.
Never mind feature updates, I've seen problems from Windows monthly "security" updates.
Bluetooth totally broke on my desktop for 2 months between April and June due to a windows update (which another Windows update silently/magically fixed).
I mean come on!
Luckily the only bluetooth things use on it are Sony headphones and an xbox X controller, but if I was using a mouse/keyboard via Bluetooth on it I'd be screwed.
I remember a paralegal telling me how much she hated Microsoft Office, and one thing she mentioned was that she had times of getting a complex document formatted perfectly, only to have to redo it the next day after Office updated itself. That was a number of years ago, but I have to wonder if it can't still be a problem, given the story about broken Bluetooth.
Oh Office is still a buggy mess. Just today I was using the latest most up to date Word build and the little Control drop down when you paste something where you can change if it keeps formatting or not kept getting stuck in the middle of Word. Very irritating.