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"Google Launches Android Find My Device Network"

... they knew where your stuff was all along, now they let you know too!
 
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I don't understand why both companies wouldn't make the systems completely interoperable.


....wait never mind, I am sure it was Apple not playing nice again. <sigh>

Did you read the article? There is movement towards an industry spec, and it will probably continue to evolve in that direction.

To keep iPhone users from being tracked without their knowledge using this new network, Google worked with Apple to create an industry specification that lets both iPhone and Android users get alerts about nearby unknown item trackers regardless of the brand of the tracking device. Google waited until Apple implemented support for third-party tracker alerts to launch its network, based on code found in iOS 17.5.
 
Google was able to learn from the criticism that Apple faced after launching AirTags. There have been numerous news stories and reports of criminals using AirTags for stalking, car thefts, and more, leading Apple to make multiple changes to unwanted tracker alerts.
Cool, now that Google is doing it, we'll finally stop seeing media hit pieces on AirTags being the end of the world.

Is Google going to implement this ubiquitous surveillance with the same wink-wink privacy as Chrome's Incognito Mode?

Oh, and when is the EU going to declare Apple a tag monopoly?
 
I don't understand why both companies wouldn't make the systems completely interoperable.


....wait never mind, I am sure it was Apple not playing nice again. <sigh>
Why would Apple play nice ? They want to sell iPhones; not create a world of just phones.
Keep in mind Steve Jobs himself said Apple would go thermonuclear against Android for blatantly stealing the operating system with Google's CEO on Apple's board of directors. Why should they take the foot off the throat?
 
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Copying Apple. Classic Google.
Everyone "borrows" ideas from others. It's nothing new.



 
Copying Apple. Classic Google.
Classic Google is copying Samsung and it is what they did here, again.
People forget that Google often adds features to stock android that were introduced years ago by Samsung.
My Galaxy S3 had it back in 2012! I can't remember whether my S2 had it, too.
 
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Did you read the article? There is movement towards an industry spec, and it will probably continue to evolve in that direction.
I did read the article and have been reading about this sector of technology for a while. That is reason I made my comment. We can use conjecture to guess at what may happen in the future. What did not happen, during the decision to collaborate this time around, was the creation of a standard by which both companies could operate under. AKA the way HomeKit and Matter now work.
 
Google was able to learn from the criticism of Apple’s AirTags. Which I find was mainly because it was Apple. No one has come out against Samsung and their trackers or their network.
 
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Why would Apple play nice ? They want to sell iPhones; not create a world of just phones.
Keep in mind Steve Jobs himself said Apple would go thermonuclear against Android for blatantly stealing the operating system with Google's CEO on Apple's board of directors. Why should they take the foot off the throat?
Not the same thing. Just like Apple found a way to play nice in the industry when it comes to HomeKit and Matter support. This is not a copy issue, the industry existed before Apple ever came into it. Tile and others existed long before Apple introduced AirTags.

While I am appreciate a business being careful when it comes to helping competitors, I don't see this market space causing that kind of worry. What would be better for everyone, including them, would be if anyone at anytime could locate missing/stolen devices and every device was secure, privately, helping fix this problem. If Apple does care about privacy and care about helping devices not be stolen, it would be a great move to expand this solution. It doesn't threaten their devices, if anything the opposite since they get the benefits of Android device locating stolen iPhones, etc...
 
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…until you learn that it was already available on phones like the Toshiba Portégé G500 in mid-2007.

Oh wait… that was before the release of Apple’s first ever iPhone with At&T.

(We don’t need to be getting into awkward discussions on the arbitrary distinction what constitutes “consumer” and what doesn’t, do we?)
Until you realize in 1996 the grandfather of biometrics for the Olympic Games was available. Someone always stands on the shoulders of someone else.
 
HAHAHA. What are you smoking? Literally every "IOS" innovation Apple has produced since the iPhone 3G was copied from Google (and implemented years later). Google is like literally Apple's best R&D member. Ther rare occasion Google borrows an idea is fine with me.... Apple still in their debt.
Not how any of that works. Google makes software mostly, hardware brands just pick single components from manufacturers who actually develop new technologies.
Apple's job is combining the right features to improve user experience and they do a pretty good job. The single components are already there.
Saying anybody copies anybody else in this situation makes no sense.

Apple is rarely the first to use any technology for precise reasons: when someone's developed anything new, even in a very early version, less relevant manufacturers try to be the first to use it so they can brag about it. They get people's attention that Apple don't need to fight for, and if the phone sucks, they have much less to lose than Apple does.
Moreover, since Apple sells a lot but makes very few models, it'd be hard to be the first to implement any new feature, competing with dozens of others that are just labeled as "Android".
Also, Apple's new features are rumoured years in advance and their release dates are well known. Any time any new feature is rumoured to be on an iPhone, someone gets there first so they can say they beat Apple at it. People will say Apple "stole" the feature. Pretty ridiculous.

So, Apple could never be first at anything, as common sense shows. That's why they just carefully choose features and wait for them to be mature.
Let's be clear, I hate some of their tech (I'll never get used to face ID) but I understand why they alway seem "late".
 
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Does it mean enlarged network for AirTag.. any idea if android phones would also relay location information to Apple.

Also will the AirTag also work in android find my..
 
Classic Google is copying Samsung and it is what they did here, again.
People forget that Google often adds features to stock android that were introduced years ago by Samsung.
My Galaxy S3 had it back in 2012! I can't remember whether my S2 had it, too.
Lol Android was created and is maintained by Google, which is the exact software that Samsung phones use.
 
I’m a bit shocked. My last Android phone was back in 2009 or 2010. (Sometime around then.) It’s been about 15 years since I had any first-hand experience with Android. With that lack of experience… I just kind of assumed Android/Google already had something like this. And that’s my mistake for just assuming stuff. But also, I never had any reason check (because I don’t use Android).

I know Tile has its own ‘Find My‘ type network (that of course works on Android). And there are Samsung‘s trackers and whatnot. But it’s a little shocking that this is the first for Google itself. Is it really?!?!
 
Copying Apple. Classic Google.
To be fair Apple's Airtags was not even a new idea when they came up with it.
At that point Tile was already multiple years old and Apple's find my was a pretty huge copy of tile so this is a pretty false statement.
 
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I’m a bit shocked. My last Android phone was back in 2009 or 2010. (Sometime around then.) It’s been about 15 years since I had any first-hand experience with Android. With that lack of experience… I just kind of assumed Android/Google already had something like this. And that’s my mistake for just assuming stuff. But also, I never had any reason check (because I don’t use Android).

I know Tile has its own ‘Find My‘ type network (that of course works on Android). And there are Samsung‘s trackers and whatnot. But it’s a little shocking that this is the first for Google itself. Is it really?!?!
Android did not have any bluetrooth trackers but tracking your device has been around for years. The only new thing really being added is the bluetooth tags.
 
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*iOS

And Apple was the first to implement fingerprint recognition and facial recognition into consumer phones.

False on all fronts. Google did face first, The first fingerprint reader in a mobile phone would go to Android and it was a Motorola. it was an ok one. I owned one in 2011. Apple Added touch idea in 2013. Biggest thing that slowed down Android on fingerprint recognition is Apple bought the company that everyone was working up on design the fingerprint reader as at the time that company made by far the best sensors for a phone like device. It set everyone few years.

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Sounds like air tags are completely useless now for certain use cases. Eg. Putting one in your car/other valuable item incase it gets stolen. Now it will alert the thieves !
 
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