Google Pixel 4/Pixel 4 XL

[drinkingtea]

Or sell the brand new XS, and would probably be enough to purchase a BF Pixel 4 XL

I was thinking about doing that, but I think it would really hurt the feelings of the person who bought this phone for me. My other option would be to wait a year and get the 4 XL for about $300, and have both phones. I really love the design of the 4 XL and in a perfect world, I would own both a Pixel and an iPhone.

 

[mjschabow]

I was thinking about doing that, but I think it would really hurt the feelings of the person who bought this phone for me. My other option would be to wait a year and get the 4 XL for about $300, and have both phones. I really love the design of the 4 XL and in a perfect world, I would own both a Pixel and an iPhone.

Or even better, get the 4a in April.

 

[drinkingtea]

Or even better, get the 4a in April.

That’s a good option as well.

I’m actually sad I won’t be getting the Pixel 4 XL. I’ve been waiting to get it for months. It is what it is and I’m grateful that I have a free phone.

 

[JaySoul]

FYI UK peeps...

The price on eBay is absolutely plummeting already!

You can pick up a 4 XL for £600 already - that's down from £819 official price.

I'm looking at the £500-550 range. Could be sooner than I originally anticipated!

 

[michael9891]

FYI UK peeps...

The price on eBay is absolutely plummeting already!

You can pick up a 4 XL for £600 already - that's down from £819 official price.

I'm looking at the £500-550 range. Could be sooner than I originally anticipated!

Is that brand new though? And buy it now? Cheapest I can see on there is £680 plus postage.

 

[drinkingtea]

I’m getting a little over six hours of SOT on my new XS, which is what I’d be getting with the 4 XL if I had one. That’s more than enough SOT for me and for most people. People will whine about anything.

 

[JaySoul]

Is that brand new though? And buy it now? Cheapest I can see on there is £680 plus postage.

Over the weekend, there were 3 that went for £600 to £610. I think one was used for a week but the other two were new.

It's worth keeping an eye out over next month, it'll reach £550 soon!

 

[mjschabow]

I’m getting a little over six hours of SOT on my new XS, which is what I’d be getting with the 4 XL if I had one. That’s more than enough SOT for me and for most people. People will whine about anything.

It’s all relative. I’m getting 10 hours SOT on my 11 Pro. That would be a significant decline in battery life.

 

[jamezr]

I love the notifications on the P4. Google really has done a great job with all the little things on this phone.
Face Unlock is the best and fastest facial unlock on the market today.I love Google's implementation of it more than on my 11 Pro Max.

 

[Aneres11]

I keep swapping between my Pixel 4 and 11 Pro.
I think if someone made me choose one I'd have a really difficult time.

They both offer a similar experience in the software department. As in, it's smooth, easy, and has no lag or bloatware anywhere. Not that this is much of a problem with other Android's anymore, but there is still some element of it going on with Samsung, Sony etc.

I love both cameras, and they come into their own at different times. Anything that needs portrait shot, I reach for the Pixel. Whereas I was using the Pixel yesterday when we were out on a day trip and it wasn't getting the shots I wanted. I switched to the iPhone's wide lens and got some amazing photos that the Pixel is just not capable of snapping without the wide lens.

I've just bought a new car (pick it up tomorrow), I have a BMW i3 currently (which I love) but am getting an all electric eGolf for the better range and because it's new. Both cars have apps that allow you to connect to the car from the house or office and interact with the car. The Android version of my BMW app is not good, and I have read the same for the Volkswagen one.
I've just downloaded the VW app on my Pixel - it won't even let me log in. The iPhone one is up and running.
This is a common theme with these apps generally though (they're a bit buggy), but it's another case of iPhone apps being better and more reliable which I have found does happen on a number of occasions.

The 90hz is such a draw with the Pixel and makes a huge difference to the overall performance of the phone. iPhone can't compete there.

Battery. Well, we all know about it. My Pixel died on the way home from our day trip yesterday at about 4pm. I managed about 3 hours 30 SoT. It was used for Maps, YouTube music streaming, camera and social media, but it's still terrible.
I had to have the brightness on max when taking photos as I was outside a lot, so couldn't really see what was going on otherwise.

Even with the downside of the Pixel battery, I still really love the phone. I think an XL is definitely the way to go though, and people (like me) who prefer smaller phones would maybe need to adjust to a bigger device if they really wanted the full, Pixel experience without much compromise.

My sim is back in my iPhone (for now), so will see how long I last with that until I swap back!

 

[mjschabow]

I keep swapping between my Pixel 4 and 11 Pro.
I think if someone made me choose one I'd have a really difficult time.

They both offer a similar experience in the software department. As in, it's smooth, easy, and has no lag or bloatware anywhere. Not that this is much of a problem with other Android's anymore, but there is still some element of it going on with Samsung, Sony etc.

I love both cameras, and they come into their own at different times. Anything that needs portrait shot, I reach for the Pixel. Whereas I was using the Pixel yesterday when we were out on a day trip and it wasn't getting the shots I wanted. I switched to the iPhone's wide lens and got some amazing photos that the Pixel is just not capable of snapping without the wide lens.

I've just bought a new car (pick it up tomorrow), I have a BMW i3 currently (which I love) but am getting an all electric eGolf for the better range and because it's new. Both cars have apps that allow you to connect to the car from the house or office and interact with the car. The Android version of my BMW app is not good, and I have read the same for the Volkswagen one.
I've just downloaded the VW app on my Pixel - it won't even let me log in. The iPhone one is up and running.
This is a common theme with these apps generally though (they're a bit buggy), but it's another case of iPhone apps being better and more reliable which I have found does happen on a number of occasions.

The 90hz is such a draw with the Pixel and makes a huge difference to the overall performance of the phone. iPhone can't compete there.

Battery. Well, we all know about it. My Pixel died on the way home from our day trip yesterday at about 4pm. I managed about 3 hours 30 SoT. It was used for Maps, YouTube music streaming, camera and social media, but it's still terrible.
I had to have the brightness on max when taking photos as I was outside a lot, so couldn't really see what was going on otherwise.

Even with the downside of the Pixel battery, I still really love the phone. I think an XL is definitely the way to go though, and people (like me) who prefer smaller phones would maybe need to adjust to a bigger device if they really wanted the full, Pixel experience without much compromise.

My sim is back in my iPhone (for now), so will see how long I last with that until I swap back!

You sir are doing it right. lol. I just can’t convince myself to spend money on a Pixel 4 even though I want one. I’m not willing to switch from iOS but would love a second phone.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Some days I'm so tempted to buy an 11 Pro Max, and switch between my Pixel 4 XL. But for $1,200 not sure that's the experiment I want to spend on.

Plus iOS just blows, and stock Android is just the best smartphone OS today. Plus an Phone is a downgrade with it's decade old grandparents feeling OS. And Fisher-Price teeny bopper stuff.

Yeah hard pass on using both platforms. But this is my opinion, obviously tens of millions of people love the iPhone, and I'm the weird guy that doesn't like it.

If the iPhone 11 Pro Max was same price as a BF Pixel deal, I'd get one immediately.

 

[drinkingtea]

Some days I'm so tempted to buy an 11 Pro Max, and switch between my Pixel 4 XL. But for $1,200 not sure that's the experiment I want to spend on.

Plus iOS just blows, and stock Android is just the best smartphone OS today. Plus an Phone is a downgrade with it's decade old grandparents feeling OS. And Fisher-Price teeny bopper stuff.

Yeah hard pass on using both platforms. But this is my opinion, obviously tens of millions of people love the iPhone, and I'm the weird guy that doesn't like it.

If the iPhone 11 Pro Max was same price as a BF Pixel deal, I'd get one immediately.

iOS 14 is rumored to be an overhaul of the OS. I’m hoping that’s the case because the iOS home screen is stale and dated. iPhones really should come with a Boomer mode and an everyone else mode that we can choose between. Without a doubt Apple dumbs the phone down because a lot of elderly people use iPhones simply because of their simplicity.

Stock Android manages to have an elegant, minimal home screen without confusing users. Apple needs to do the same.

 

[JaySoul]

iOS 14 is rumored to be an overhaul of the OS. I’m hoping that’s the case because the iOS home screen is stale and dated. iPhones really should come with a Boomer mode and an everyone else mode that we can choose between. Without a doubt Apple dumbs the phone down because a lot of elderly people use iPhones simply because of their simplicity.

Stock Android manages to have an elegant, minimal home screen without confusing users. Apple needs to do the same.

Definitely feel like iOS is a mess right now, it's fine once you're used to it but it's definitely not the "magically easy" thing it used to be. Massive learning curve which, ironically, Android has gotten better at.

iOS is definitely due an overhaul but I'd still say visually, it's fine - more usability. Samsung has a Boomer mode which is awesome, maybe you're right tbh.

 

[mjschabow]

Definitely feel like iOS is a mess right now, it's fine once you're used to it but it's definitely not the "magically easy" thing it used to be. Massive learning curve which, ironically, Android has gotten better at.

iOS is definitely due an overhaul but I'd still say visually, it's fine - more usability. Samsung has a Boomer mode which is awesome, maybe you're right tbh.

Good point. My girlfriend has been using iOS for years and she finally learned that you can swipe down from the home screen to search. It changed her world. Lol. But definitely not the OS that’s super easy to master right away anymore.

 

[Harthag]

I didn’t realize that the 3a is selling for well over $200 on Swappa. I see that LastPass now works with the Pixel face authentication so this, theoretically, is all I need.

$400 off on Black Friday would put the P4 XL 64gb at $500, which is great. The sale price is up on Best Buy’s website so it’s official. Even if I only get $150 for my 3a taking into account shipping and selling fees, out of pocket that’s $350 for the P4 XL. That’s a sweet deal right there.

 

[JaySoul]

Good point. My girlfriend has been using iOS for years and she finally learned that you can swipe down from the home screen to search. It changed her world. Lol. But definitely not the OS that’s super easy to master right away anymore.

Yeah my mum loves her iPhone and keeps saying we should get one for my Dad, but it's simply too complex for him now and Samsung Easy mode is definitely so much easier for him to navigate.

I didn’t realize that the 3a is selling for well over $200 on Swappa. I see that LastPass now works with the Pixel face authentication so this, theoretically, is all I need.

$400 off on Black Friday would put the P4 XL 64gb at $500, which is great. The sale price is up on Best Buy’s website so it’s official. Even if I only get $150 for my 3a taking into account shipping and selling fees, out of pocket that’s $350 for the P4 XL. That’s a sweet deal right there.

Doubt the UK will get anything NEAR this level of discount - I predict between £120-150 off if we're lucky.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Google just announced they are rolling out their own RCS starting today and are saying screw the carriers. Brilliant move and something they should’ve done years ago. This is going to bridge the gap between android mms and iMessage.

I may just pickup a Pixel 4XL on Black Friday after all.

 

[mjschabow]

Google just announced they are rolling out their own RCS starting today and are saying screw the carriers. Brilliant move and something they should’ve done years ago. This is going to bridge the gap between android mms and iMessage.

I may just pickup a Pixel 4XL on Black Friday after all.

So does this also mean iPhone users could see when someone with a Pixel is typing? And will videos sent from a Pixel actually look better?

Sorry, this is one topic I’m not as educated on.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Google is Done Waiting for Carriers, Rolls Out RCS to US in...

Google shared the news with us this morning in a somewhat striking turn of events. You may recall that as they began rolling out RCS to the UK, France, and Mexico earlier this year, they would not commit to doing the same in the US without the help of US carriers. But we... #AndroidMessages #Google

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I'm on T-Mobile with Google bought Pixel 4 XL, and RCS can't be enabled for me.

 

[Harthag]

Google just announced they are rolling out their own RCS starting today and are saying screw the carriers. Brilliant move and something they should’ve done years ago. This is going to bridge the gap between android mms and iMessage.

I may just pickup a Pixel 4XL on Black Friday after all.

This is great news and long overdue. Anything that messes with / bypasses / middle finger to carriers is A-OK in my book. Now if only Apple would make iMessage compatible with RCS...this update still won't solve issues of limited SMS and compressed videos when communicating with someone who has an iPhone. Until that happens, iOS will continue to be my daily driver because almost every person I know has an iPhone. I have *1* person in my life, among all my friends and family, who uses Android. It is a pain for me to use SMS / MMS / Android messaging.

 

[Awesomesince86]

So does this also mean iPhone users could see when someone with a Pixel is typing? And will videos sent from a Pixel actually look better?

Sorry, this is one topic I’m not as educated on.

No because Apple won’t enable it to work. They’ll continue to use imessage and fall back on sms/mms when needed.

Google is Done Waiting for Carriers, Rolls Out RCS to US in...

Google shared the news with us this morning in a somewhat striking turn of events. You may recall that as they began rolling out RCS to the UK, France, and Mexico earlier this year, they would not commit to doing the same in the US without the help of US carriers. But we... #AndroidMessages #Google

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I'm on T-Mobile with Google bought Pixel 4 XL, and RCS can't be enabled for me.

Yes it can. It’s a staged rollout so it isn’t live for everyone yet. But you can still force it using the method posted here a week or so ago where you set the appropriate flags using action launcher.
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This is great news and long overdue. Anything that messes with / bypasses / middle finger to carriers is A-OK in my book. Now if only Apple would make iMessage compatible with RCS...this update still won't solve issues of limited SMS and compressed videos when communicating with someone who has an iPhone. Until that happens, iOS will continue to be my daily driver because almost every person I know has an iPhone. I have *1* person in my life, among all my friends and family, who uses Android. It is a pain for me to use SMS / MMS / Android messaging.

Sounds like you need new friends

 

[jamezr]

This is great news and long overdue. Anything that messes with / bypasses / middle finger to carriers is A-OK in my book. Now if only Apple would make iMessage compatible with RCS...this update still won't solve issues of limited SMS and compressed videos when communicating with someone who has an iPhone. Until that happens, iOS will continue to be my daily driver because almost every person I know has an iPhone. I have *1* person in my life, among all my friends and family, who uses Android. It is a pain for me to use SMS / MMS / Android messaging.

weird....my circles are a mixture of Android and iPhone people. I have no problem texting with them. I switch back and forth between Android phones and an 11 pro max and still have no problem texting and group chats that are a mixture of both platforms.

 

[co.ag.2005]

Google is Done Waiting for Carriers, Rolls Out RCS to US in...

Google shared the news with us this morning in a somewhat striking turn of events. You may recall that as they began rolling out RCS to the UK, France, and Mexico earlier this year, they would not commit to doing the same in the US without the help of US carriers. But we... #AndroidMessages #Google

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I'm on T-Mobile with Google bought Pixel 4 XL, and RCS can't be enabled for me.

Slow rollout... so it could take 3-4 weeks to reach everyone

 

[Harthag]

weird....my circles are a mixture of Android and iPhone people. I have no problem texting with them. I switch back and forth between Android phones and an 11 pro max and still have no problem texting and group chats that are a mixture of both platforms.

It's not really a problem, just an annoyance when sending videos to people. Relatives have made comments to me that I always go back and forth from a blue bubble to green and what is the deal with me always switching phones, haha. iMessage is just so quick and effortless.