Curious as to which application you use? Good Notes, Notability, Apple Notes, OneNote? Other?I have years of both personal and work notes. I prefer to do most of my notetaking by hand, and have actually come to prefer the Apple Pencil over physical media. I simply have two separate notebooks - one personal, one work - and everything goes in those which allows me to search, add media and links, etc. For both writing and artistic pursuits either medium - digital or physical have their own charms and benefits. Choose what makes you happy.
I have used all of them. I've settled on GoodNotes for a number of years now as it best replicates the feel of digital paper with a consistent, simple UI.Curious as to which application you use? Good Notes, Notability, Apple Notes, OneNote? Other?
I mean, a lot of artists in the digital sphere would absolutely disagree to that point. Also, smudging with a real pencil is an absolute pain.
i think it's definitely up to the individual. i don't doubt for some people a real pen is going to work better. for me its the exact opposite. the digital medium, especially as a whiteboard for working through ideas, is firing up procreate is unbeatable for me.I see the utility for many artists. My primary use for drawing is for explaining concepts or brainstorming so I prefer speed and tactility as that's what I'm used to. I don't like tools getting in the way of whatever it is I'm trying to solve and I feel like digital drawing tools always get in my way for that context.
Your comment clicked with a thought I have been having recently about the difference between digital and "analog" notetaking. As much as I enjoy the benefits of digital notetaking, I've had this pull to go back to dead-tree notetaking... and no, my recent acquisition of an audio cassette player has nothing to do with it... "hey you kids! Get off my lawn!"It took me a considerable amount of time and apps, but in the end - I couldn't agree more. Pen and paper work best for me too.
Chiming in on @BigMcGuire 's comment: going from typing to handwriting with the Apple Pencil can indeed be a big step towards more focus and involvement. But going from handwriting with the Apple Pencil towards a real pen and paper can be the next step towards even more focus and involvement. I can definitely testify it was like that for me.
Going through life without the Undo function is liberating 😆
This is one of the best takes in this thread. Thanks.I've seen a lot of "I'm not the target audience," followed by a list of particular things they don't do/apps they don't use. As someone who also bought Pencil on a whim (years ago, when I got my first-gen iPad Pro 12.9"), I've come to the conclusion that "target audience" is "people who regularly use pencil/pen and paper." I'm not one of those people.
I've been keyboard-centric as far back as I recall - began my transition in the 1970s when I learned to touch type, and it accelerated with the advent of the PC. Since my handwriting is not wonderful, any opportunity for improved legibility is a plus. When PDAs came along, I wasn't thrilled with the stylus - virtual keyboard was more to my liking.
While I do use the iPad's virtual keyboard, being a touch typist I much prefer the physical keyboard (Apple Smart Keyboard in my case). Other than writing the occasional paper check (I write too few to bother printing them) signing for a credit card transaction or using my fingers on touchscreens, I'm keyboard/mouse all the way.
When I take notes, it's typed directly. Although handwriting conversion is now easy, I got into the habit of typing everything initially (rather than transcribe handwritten notes later) back when handwriting conversion was hit-and-miss. So anytime there's notes to be taken, I'm typing away.
When I tried to make use of Pencil it was just too much mental retraining - I had to remember to use the Pencil rather than stick to my very well-practiced habits. Yes, I'm an old dog. While I'm not beyond learning new tricks, for now Pencil still doesn't do it for me. I may give it another try someday, and I'd probably start with photo editing.
Of all the posts here this one is definitely not made up. No one could come up with such an unique usage.I use my Apple Pencil with GoodNotes to write ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic texts, transliterations, and translations, and to help learn Arabic, and with Procreate to try drawing, watercolor-style painting, and to practice German Fraktur calligraphy.
Writing, drawing, highlighting, underlining…in short everything I’d use a normal pencil for…what else?HI All,
I got a good deal on the apple pencil and it was late at night. I've only played around for five minutes with it. I'm not the target demographic since I'm not into drawing, I thought maybe if it did a decent job making my scribbles into text it could be useful.
So for those that own a pencil what do you like to use it for? Are there some surprising uses you didn't expect?
Not sure yet if I'll keep it but still intrigued. I'll also check if apple is adding anything interesting for the pencil in the new OS.
Thanks for any feedback,
Philly
While my impatience makes me currently avoid traditional etc., I know a few artists who cannot adapt to digital.I mean, a lot of artists in the digital sphere would absolutely disagree to that point. Also, smudging with a real pencil is an absolute pain.
Note taking and de-compiling what's in my head so I can relax and enjoy life after a stressful day!
I use my iPad 11' with an Apple Pencil for note taking - I find that handwriting notes helps me remember what is being said FAR better than typing. Now, I don't always take handwritten notes, but when I want to remember something I do.
I find writing down what's in my head to be a massive de-stressor - just the act of writing down what I'm worrying about helps me stress about it much less - and usually results in better decisions.
Apple Pencil is GREAT for highlighting screenshots, drawing quick ideas down for show, and gives my hand something to do when I'm bored.
Now... if I could just decide on Notability vs GoodNotes! I much prefer the feel of Notability but I like the stability and features of GoodNotes.
Definitely agree. A nice Japanese gel .38 or even .5 if I'm feeling like it - beats the Apple Pencil any day in terms of handwriting clarity and amount of information I can get on a page. I prefer pen and paper by far.
What makes me use the iPad is - ability to digitize my notes and have it accessible on my Mac/iPhone/iPad, able to search for what I write days, months, years later and send it to other people who need it. So I use it most of the time now just for convenience factor. I've gotten used to it but I definitely prefer pen and paper - but I almost never use ink/paper these days. Still, every now and then I'll get out a notepad, take out my Jotter (with Uniball Jetstream .38 refill) or Uniball Signo and really go to town. I still got a drawer full of them from JetPens. lol.
Exactly this, using my iPad Pro and the Pencil as a whiteboard has been (and probably will be) a great help working with my students during lockdowns. Also: grading papers and signing documents. From time to time highlighting stuff in PDFs for my research. So, nothing related to art whatsoever, mostly note taking/highlighting and as an interactive whiteboard on Zoom.I teach mathematics at a community college. Formerly I used an iPad together with a projector, and with the pandemic I've been connecting the iPad to Zoom. In both cases I use the iPad as a virtual whiteboard, writing on it with a pencil.
I also use it for writing up exam or homework answers, and for filling in forms.
Does anyone use their Apple Pencil and iPad as sort of a dry erase marker board to jot temporary notes and doodles?
I'm not the target audience either. I don't really draw, or edit photos (but maybe I would do those more if I had it?) I have been curious about getting the Apple Pencil anyway, but don't know if I can justify the cost.
My main thought of using it for would be as a "whiteboard" for temporary notes/drawings, and to put stuff in OneNote; but I'm not sure how well that'll work. When I worked in the office, our desks had glass on top so we could jot notes or draw with a dry erase marker. Now that I'm working from home, I'm doing this on paper, but it gets a little messy with all my scribbled out notes I don't need anymore, and can clutter up my desk. Wondering if the Apple Pencil would be good for something like this, or if I should just look for a glass top for my desk and deal with marker dust.