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To me (still contemplating upgrading from my 6 to an se - though not panicking about it!) the red looks very incongruous up against the black front; I was going to go black - but it actually looks very boring and 1980s - so if i go for it, I’m getting the white. About which, I initially thought the silver edge looked very tired (and let’s say 1990s) up against the black - but having seen unboxing videos, I think it looks great, and it’s the only acceptable choice from a limited menu.

There. Needless aesthetic first-world musings over.
 
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Kudos to Apple for making a donation to a specific cause each time they launch a Product Red product and for each item sold. However, as is typical with Apple on a number of issues (amount of RAM in phones; weight of Magic Keyboard etc.) they refuse to make public certain information. This can only cast suspicion on the situation at hand. Product info is one thing, but not to state what donation will be made for each Product Red item sold is just odd. Is it 5 dollars, 2 dollars, 5 cents? Why should I be enticed at all to make a specific colour choice when I have no idea what is being donated as a result? Some will say it doesn't matter it is a wonderful gesture and just support it. If it is so wonderful and if Apple is proud of its Product Red program, be upfront and proudly state what the donation is. Why hide in the shadows?


 
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This is true but some cases cover more than others and sometimes we swap out cases for a different look . I’d actually prefer caseless but that glass backside is usually slippery. I wish for a matte back someday. I’ve tried skins but never liked them that much.

The non-matte glass back of the SE is much less slippery than the matte glass back of the 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max. Matte glass backs are very slippery. Non-matte glass backs have more grip in comparison to matte glass backs.
 
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Good info but still doesn't address the issue of why not simply state something like "For every Product Red SE sold, we will donate $xx? Great that donations are made but most companies state the amount of donation per item sold. But I guess Apple's approach is in line with their refusal to say how many phones of each type they sell (a change that was obviously made to obscure the dropping sales).
 
most companies state the amount of donation per item sold.
I don’t think Apple is unique in their way of doing this. There’s an ad going around Facebook from one of those “collector” companies that produces, amongst other things, collections of teddy bears. The ad is for one dressed as nurse with the added note that a proportion of funds are donated to the NHS.

Several posts asked “how much” was donated, but didn’t get an answer. Eventually, the company answered that they’ve donated £xxx over the past number of years, but didn’t say how much would come from each bear sale.

It seems to be what these big companies do. They donate anyway, but produce items like this that make the customer feel part of that donating system.

It doesn’t make sense to me that Apple would donate part of the price of the RED phone to a charity and yet sell it at the same price as the white and the black. Why not just donate part of ALL sales? From Cook’s statement, it would seem that they do actually donate part of ALL sales - which would seem to be to the tune of $20 million a year, regardless of how many charity products are sold.

In some ways I think that is better. If no RED products are sold, it’s reassuring to know that $20m is being donated anyway. If Cook said “no one bought a RED product, so we’ve not donated anything this year” people would either complain at how bad Apple is, or they’d feel pressured into only buying RED products.

Am I right in thinking that RED products used to cost more than non-RED Apple products? Presumably that led to less RED sales. I bought the RED iPhone SE this time around, both for the colour and because I wanted to feel part of the global fight against COVID-19. But if the RED one had cost $50-$100 more than the other colours, I would not have bought RED because it's already a considered purchase.
 
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Am I right in thinking that RED products used to cost more than non-RED Apple products? Presumably that led to less RED sales. I bought the RED iPhone SE this time around, both for the colour and because I wanted to feel part of the global fight against COVID-19. But if the RED one had cost $50-$100 more than the other colours, I would not have bought RED because it's already a considered purchase.
As I recall (on iPod), RED didn't cost more per se. It's just that it was only available on the higher storage tiers.
 
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The non-matte glass back of the SE is much less slippery than the matte glass back of the 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max. Matte glass backs are very slippery. Non-matte glass backs have more grip in comparison to matte glass backs.

I found the same to be true. I could never figure out why people were lusting after matte finishes.

The iPhone 11 Pro always felt like wet soap in my hands. It was probably the most slippery smartphone I ever held. I had to be extra careful when handling it.

I personally found that iPhones with a glass back like the iPhone 8 or 11 are far more grippier under all circumstances.

The matte texture is extremely slippery when my hands are dry, which is most of the time during Midwest winters.
 
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That's a very valid position to be in. Red is the loudest color. Some other color options would really have been nice to appeal to different styles, but ah well.

I had gotten bored with my rose gold 1st gen SE and transferred the guts to an aftermarket red housing. It was super fun and flashy for the first couple days before getting really old.

The "you can just put it in a case" argument really doesn't fly in real use. Portions of the red will always be visible and the possibility of clashing colors really reduces your case choices. I was excited to use again my favorite lime green case, before realizing it looked like Christmas with the red visible on the bottom and side. I've always liked white/silver iPhones because they work like a blank slate to add color cases to.
I got the red specifically BECAUSE it would complement the case. It's a baseball case, with real baseball leather and red stitching. The bits of red that show complement the stitching. I think a white one would extend the theme a little better...but at some point the baseball leather gets older and worn in and discolored, and then the white would cease to be a good match. The red should stay complementary for a long time.
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As I recall (on iPod), RED didn't cost more per se. It's just that it was only available on the higher storage tiers.
I've had this debate before and I don't have ANY proof, but I swear I remember that Apple used to charge more for their first PRODUCT(RED) items. My partner remembers this too...that's why she didn't buy a red iPod back in the day. Drives me a little bit crazy that I remember this clearly but can find no mention of it anywhere.
 

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I've had this debate before and I don't have ANY proof, but I swear I remember that Apple used to charge more for their first PRODUCT(RED) items. My partner remembers this too...that's why she didn't buy a red iPod back in the day. Drives me a little bit crazy that I remember this clearly but can find no mention of it anywhere.

Launch price of 2nd gen iPod nano:
2GB $149
4GB $199
8GB $249

Launch price of 2nd gen iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED:
4GB $199

Same price at 4GB storage tier. Not available in $149 2GB storage tier.
 
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I found the same to be true. I could never figure out why people were lusting after matte finishes.

The iPhone 11 Pro always felt like wet soap in my hands. It was probably the most slippery smartphone I ever held. I had to be extra careful when handling it.

I personally found that iPhones with a glass back like the iPhone 8 or 11 are far more grippier under all circumstances.

The matte texture is extremely slippery when my hands are dry, which is most of the time during Midwest winters.

Well you guys are braver than me. I always have to have my iPhone in a case, glossy or matte finish. I sold my purple 11 on Swappa and bought the 11 pro max silver, which is actually a beautiful matte pearl color.
 
Can anyone verify if the red hue on the SE2 is the same as the 11 red? Anyone with the ‘11 red’ care to share their opinion/ experience
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I don't think the red on the 11 or the SE (from what I can tell from photos) are as good of a red as the XR. The XR has the deepest red, and it is really stunning. I bought it for my grandson because AT&T had them for $1/month (although now I am PISSED I didn't wait another month because I would've much preferred getting him the SE), and the color is so much better than my son's red 11.
You mentioned on another thread that you found the 11 purple to be the best. Or close to it. Do you still feel the same
 
Each to their own of course, but I got my current 8+ in red because as soon as I saw it I loved it. The black front with the red looked so much better than the white fronted Product Red iPhone. I still love it today. I’m due an upgrade NOW, and I’m trying to hold off the smaller form factor of the SE (and lower monthly cost!) and wait for any more 12 info. I’ve always found holding the 8+ just slightly too cumbersome. But that red colour is still really, really nice.
 
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Can anyone verify if the red hue on the SE2 is the same as the 11 red? Anyone with the ‘11 red’ care to share their opinion/ experience
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You mentioned on another thread that you found the 11 purple to be the best. Or close to it. Do you still feel the same

I think the 11 purple is a lot prettier in person than I expected it to be (one of my daughters has it). My son has the red 11, and my grandson has the red Xr. The red Xr is a much better red, IMO. I find the 11 red is a more pinkish red while the Xr is a really deep, true red. To me the SE red looks more like the 11 than the Xr, at least in the pictures I’ve seen.

My 11 is black, and I ordered a white SE that’s due to arrive today. I’m excited to get my hands on it and see what I think.
 
P.S. I never used a case on any iPhone and never will. I think that all cases add unnecessary bulk and hinder the look of the phone.

I'm of similar stance to you. But i use a sleeve case to protect my phone, but it forces me to quick & easy slide the phone out to actually use, thus enjoying the designed and aesthetic quality of the phone itself. Win/Win.
 
I wonder what it looks like next to an 11 Red. I'm sure someone has a comparison photo. I think 11 Red is less red and more pinkish.

All of a sudden the red XR looks... fake lol
 
I think I saw a video or review yesterday. If I remember correctly, the 11 has the same shade of candy apple red as the new SE.
 
Quick update: my white SE is almost here. One more day. Can't wait to ditch the red SE.

It's become uglier by the day. I can't stand looking at it anymore. Looks like a cheap skittle phone whereas the white SE my gf got looks so classy.
 
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My iPhone 8 Plus was the deep red that looks more like that red Xr in that photo above there. So, I take it the Product Red 2020 SE and the Product Red iPhone 8 are NOT the same shade of red, is that correct?

I dearly miss my Product Red 8 Plus. I always meant to keep that phone but ended up trading it in on a different 8 Plus for my dad. I couldn’t just hand him my AT&T model because its modem didn’t work on his Verizon line.
Sometimes that phone looked almost brown in indoor lighting, though. And it looked pretty murky in clear cases.
 
I love the red back with black front. Didn't think I'd like it, because I don't really do "colour". My previous SE was white with the gold colour. I thought I would probably go with black this time, but I went for the Red.

I don't regret my colour choice at all. I'm using a transparent Spigen Liquid Crystal case for it so I don't obscure the colour. If I do ever get fed up with the colour, I'll just pick up a similar case but one that isn't transparent. No one will know. 😃

I purchased the Red 256GB model. Looks fine, but I’ve never cared what color my phones are. They are always in an Otterbox case.
 
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