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[davidskp]

Question about shipment

I ordered the MBP as soon as the danish online store came back up this tuesday. When i had placed my order it said estimated shipping date: 30.oct and expected delivery by 3.nov.
Today (26th) they shipped it by TNT but now the expected delivery date is 4.nov. How can ealier shipment result in later delivery? which date should i trust?

/dave

 

[ianhhh]

upgrade

waiting to see compared specs to last powerbook, 2c if worth upgrading..

i know this aint the right thread for this question but i know its activ an someone might be able to point me in the right direction:

ive had my powerbook 100gb, for almost a year.. in that time it has done a lot of work, ie.digital photography, processing hundreds of raw files, the hard drive has been pretty much full a few times, i struggle to keep my personal files on aswell as work.. i keep trying to empty the disc as much as poss but still it seems to be running slow compared to when i got it.. can i do anything to defrag it or is my best option a complete reformat[major hassle!].. or should i bite the bullet and upgrade? does a laptops speed degrade with age? is/will this next mbp be significantly faster? ie. if it takes 60sec to process a file at present [C1, 1ds mk2] what can i expect from the new mbp?

i know this aint quite the right thread sorry!

 

[4np]

According to the Fujitsu website, the drive is Longitudinal Magnetic Recording (LMR), not perpendicular.

http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/computing/storage/hdd/mhdd/mhw2xxxbh-catalog.html

Well, the 160GB does have PMR... The 80GB as both PMR as well as LMR...

The MHW2160BH (160GB) is applied Perpendicular Magnetic Recording (PMR) technology.
The MHW2080BH has PMR technology model and Longitudinal Magnetic Recording (LMR) technology model.
The other capacity products are applied LMR technology.

also... this seems to be MacBook Pro Version 2.2?

 

[zenvision]

ok i posted this on the other thread but...

i was just wondering, does the screen tilt back further than the previous mbp? it kind of bugged me that you couldn't tilt the screen back as far as powerbooks. im guessing its probably the same, seeing as the case is near identical...

 

[Shadow]

Pre-N is good and all, but how many people really have Pre-N routers? What if the specification is changed when its actually released (ie, 'actual'-N is different and incompatible with Pre-N)? I'd much rather Apple have waited for the 802.11n specification to be "set in stone" as it were.

 

[Cameront9]

I think the point is that the cards are CAPABLE of running at N speeds, but that doesn't mean they will. As noted, OS X still reports them as 802.11g cards. This way, Apple has BOTH cases covered, and they can magically upgrade the cards to N with a simple firmware update in the future...

Pre-N is good and all, but how many people really have Pre-N routers? What if the specification is changed when its actually released (ie, 'actual'-N is different and incompatible with Pre-N)? I'd much rather Apple have waited for the 802.11n specification to be "set in stone" as it were.

 

[timmillwood]

How did you know it's coming from China?

because i phoned apple to try and get it delivered faster and they said that because it is coming from China they can't speed it up until the courier gets it!

 

[tarjan]

unless of course they can't because the spec has changed more then firmware can handle, then apple does nothing and never even says anything.

Definitely win/win for apple. Potentially damaging for the other N people out there.

Scot

 

[suwandy]

UPDATE:

I am in the final stages of Installing OS X, which by the way the restore disks are 10.4.8. (I always like to start fresh, call me nuts)

Things I have noticed so far.

- There is definately no removable HD bay.
- Case has not changed, with only exception being new FW800 Port.
- I have no dead pixels.
- No screen whine, mooing, excessive fan noise. (even DVD drive seems quiter).
- Hard drive (120GB) is Fujitsu MHW2120BH
- DVD Drive (6X-DVD-DL) is Matshita UJ-857D
- Heat seems to be about the same, however I have not done anything taxing.
- Airport reception seems to be consistent with previous model. I never tested distance, but signal strength is the same on my desk.

View screen captures here--->http://lartren.com/mac

Battery performance will come in time, as I need to do a full charge/condition then put it under a load, etc...I expect a few days to really be able to judge the battery.

Is there a way to determing GPU clock settings within OS X? I am not sure I will get to putting XP on there tonight.

Anything else you wanna know/see, please let me know...

There is an issue you haven't mentioned yet. Could you please check who the battery maker is and post here? The serial number as well, if that is possible

 

[countach]

ive had my powerbook 100gb, for almost a year.. in that time it has done a lot of work, ie.digital photography, processing hundreds of raw files, the hard drive has been pretty much full a few times, i struggle to keep my personal files on aswell as work.. i keep trying to empty the disc as much as poss but still it seems to be running slow compared to when i got it.. can i do anything to defrag it or is my best option a complete reformat[major hassle!].. or should i bite the bullet and upgrade?!

You need idefrag:

http://coriolis-systems.com/iDefrag-2.php

 

[countach]

Pre-N is good and all, but how many people really have Pre-N routers? What if the specification is changed when its actually released (ie, 'actual'-N is different and incompatible with Pre-N)? I'd much rather Apple have waited for the 802.11n specification to be "set in stone" as it were.

Assuming Apple ever supports the "n" functionality, I guess the good thing about going with a "proprietory" vendor like Apple, is you can get all your hardware from them and they will presumably support their stuff regardless. But this is premature, let's wait for them to support it.

 

[tekmoe]

waiting to see compared specs to last powerbook, 2c if worth upgrading..

i know this aint the right thread for this question but i know its activ an someone might be able to point me in the right direction:

ive had my powerbook 100gb, for almost a year.. in that time it has done a lot of work, ie.digital photography, processing hundreds of raw files, the hard drive has been pretty much full a few times, i struggle to keep my personal files on aswell as work.. i keep trying to empty the disc as much as poss but still it seems to be running slow compared to when i got it.. can i do anything to defrag it or is my best option a complete reformat[major hassle!].. or should i bite the bullet and upgrade? does a laptops speed degrade with age? is/will this next mbp be significantly faster? ie. if it takes 60sec to process a file at present [C1, 1ds mk2] what can i expect from the new mbp?

i know this aint quite the right thread sorry!

you are probably using the 1.67ghz g4 right? i had the 17" that was introduced last year on october 19th...the high res screen model. my new mbp blows that thing out of the water.

UPGRADE MAN!

 

[gzeus]

LMR vs PMR ?

Not if you ordered the 160 GB! Bada Bing.
But you are right, all the other capacities are LMR.

Does anyone know if LMR/PMR technologies affect either the average seek time or the electric consumption of the HD. In others word, will selecting a 160Go PMR HD instead of a 120 Go LMR HD give better perfomance in terms of speed or autonomy ?

Thanks

 

[skiphunt]

finally upgraded

Ordered my Core 2 2.33Ghz yesterday. My 1999 Pismo, upgraded with PowerLogix to G4/500... was on it's last legs. Screen was turning all green and pink with lines (either bad LCD ribbon or the screen itself), fan came on all the time, CDROM drive no longer worked, case busted and cracked from too many drops so that the keyboard was no longer flush, battery no longer works, lost the feet and back door a long time ago.

Can't wait to try this new machine out.. but, I have to hand it to apple on my Pismo... that machine took abuse for nearly 8 years including traveling in a backpack to 15 different countries.. and being strapped onto the back of a Dual Sport motorcycle for 2 long trips in Mexico which included off-roading and the Baja. And still, I'm typing this message on it and it still works fine for the most part. Who needs Apple care? ;-)

 

[mleary]

Pre-N is good and all, but how many people really have Pre-N routers? What if the specification is changed when its actually released (ie, 'actual'-N is different and incompatible with Pre-N)? I'd much rather Apple have waited for the 802.11n specification to be "set in stone" as it were.

Any potential changes to the standard can be easily fixed with a firmware update. The hardware aspect of N has been set in stone.

 

[da5id]

waiting to see compared specs to last powerbook, 2c if worth upgrading..

i know this aint the right thread for this question but i know its activ an someone might be able to point me in the right direction:

ive had my powerbook 100gb, for almost a year.. in that time it has done a lot of work, ie.digital photography, processing hundreds of raw files, the hard drive has been pretty much full a few times, i struggle to keep my personal files on aswell as work.. i keep trying to empty the disc as much as poss but still it seems to be running slow compared to when i got it.. can i do anything to defrag it or is my best option a complete reformat[major hassle!].. or should i bite the bullet and upgrade? does a laptops speed degrade with age? is/will this next mbp be significantly faster? ie. if it takes 60sec to process a file at present [C1, 1ds mk2] what can i expect from the new mbp?

i know this aint quite the right thread sorry!

iDefrag-2, like suggested, or, if you have another drive you can clone to, Superduper. (Cloning to and then back from another drive does what a defrag program does, minus the fancy "optimization" of file locations, which I doubt makes a huge difference.) This feature is free on Superduper.

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html

 

[slidingjon]

I don't think that Apple would be shipping products (iMac and now MBP) without plans of using the N.
My only question is that if anyone had heard anything about a new N Airport? Airport Pro maybe? But I guess if it is primarily to be used with iTV that it could simply use a direct connection. Does anyone know if a direct computer to computer link is faster/slower than say, a Bonjour connection through a router? I have never tested that out.

 

[robur]

can someone please clarify for me the issue with LMR and PMR hard drives?
i just ordered a new MBP with a 160gb hard drive, but that one seems to be different than the others?

just wondering if i should change my order before it ships, is this something important enough to worry about?

thanks!

mg

 

[bcrawf]

about 802.11n

I am running boot camp as I type this

Once I get XP up and running, how exactly do I determing clock speeds? Will windows tell me, or do I need a third party app?

Brian, thanks for the generous help. I'm wondering whether an 802.11n card in the MBP is all that is needed, or does the Airport base unit (or whatever one uses) have to have an 802.11n card in it also to get the boost that 802.11n offers?

Bob

 

[nick004]

Can someone please do some benchmarking? instead of wasting your time installing windows. I wanna see if the 39% claim is true, which has to be more important then whether it is pre-N or not

 

[prady16]

Any issues with the new MBP?
I know you did not notice any wierd noises and stuff but i was wondering if such issues like mooing, heat etc. came up after a couple of hours of use!?

 

[PDE]

And still, I'm typing this message on it and it still works fine for the most part. Who needs Apple care? ;-)

The lombard and pismo didn't need applecare, but the new ones are not the same. Enjoy your new 'book!

 

[deputy_doofy]

The lombard and pismo didn't need applecare, but the new ones are not the same. Enjoy your new 'book!

The beauty is, you can still get it repaired under the one year warranty AND when that year is almost up, they will STILL try to sell you AppleCare to extend it.

 

[countach]

Does anyone know if LMR/PMR technologies affect either the average seek time or the electric consumption of the HD. In others word, will selecting a 160Go PMR HD instead of a 120 Go LMR HD give better perfomance in terms of speed or autonomy ?

In theory, PMR gives greater bit density, which means more bits read/written per disk rotation, which means greater performance per rotation. This means a slower rotating drive giving the same throughput (=less battery drain), or the same rotation giving faster throughput. Of course, this is just one factor.

 

[skiphunt]

The beauty is, you can still get it repaired under the one year warranty AND when that year is almost up, they will STILL try to sell you AppleCare to extend it.

Yeah, I figured I could just wait on the Apple Care. I wished I'd had it when my Dual 2Ghz G5's power supply died about a month ago and outside of warranty. Still, though it was a real challenge getting the PS out of the case.. it still only cost me $130 for a new PS.. and still less than what I would have paid for Apple Care. Now, if the PS had fried my logic board.. I'd be singin' a different tune now.

I didn't upgrade the memory in the new Core 2 MBP.. just left it at 3GB. And I just got the 120GB HD. I figured I could install something bigger at 7200RPMs later.. I've changed the HD on my Pismo (not easy), but are these new powerbooks MUCH harder to change out?