Growing trend of Macs in the enterprise?

[belvdr]

Then how on earth can you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about when I've done it for the past 10 years?

For the life of me, I'm not sure how you did it, but you fumbled the quoting process. You put roadbloc's name under my quote.

And, regarding your quote earlier, I work in IT and don't have a contact at Microsoft. I had a user with a 15 GB PST file in Exchange/Outlook 2003. We all used the "X". Never, ever had an issue. It is possible there's an issue with the newer client.

You can rant and rave about how Mac systems are taking over desktops and costing jobs at your company. Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I haven't seen that in the past two companies I worked for over the past decade. You say you're losing sleep over this, yet you claim to be a sysadmin. Something isn't adding up. Is this a small organization?

The first deployment I'm sure will be just fine. As they continue to grow and you can't manage them properly, things will get out of control soon enough. I can't imagine deploying 300 new systems without any way of managing them. How are you backing up user data? Time Machine? If TM, then what do you do when you replace the machine? You can't simply just restore the whole image. I'm certain nobody has thought this through well enough to understand that down the road, there will be obstacles.

Quite frankly, is it possible they are switching to Macs at your place because help desk support was not effective or efficient?

 

[miles01110]

Its pretty clear from your posting history that you do nothing but condescend people.

Call it what you want; at least I don't repeatedly espouse non-defensible positions I know nothing about, like you do.

Also please tell me where I said anything incorrect about IT? Please I'd LOVE for you to point that out to me.

Ok, if you really want to get into that:

Oh, and Windows 8 is really helping people push to Mac :/

Actually reviews on Windows 8 have been cautiously positive. The Metro interface is casuing some head scratching, but it'll take time to get used to like any completely new interface change.

I work in IT and every job I've recently applied for wants Mac experience.

(Note that this isn't incorrect, I'm highlighting it because it's a laughable example of a self-choosing sample set used to draw broad conclusions about enterprise IT. Obviously if you put "OS X" or "Apple" into the search box these results will appear )

...but companies are getting sick of the "every other release is good" schedule from Microsoft.

If a release isn't good, large-scale IT departments move slowly enough so that they can determine if the release is suitable or not. With Vista there was plenty of warning for those large enterprises who decided to convert.

Not one single friend/colleague of mine in IT is at a company either that is supporting Windows 8. A lot of places are sticking with 7 for now with no plans to upgrade to 8 and are looking for alternatives.

Again, self-choosing sample set. I would guess that your "friends and colleagues" are looking at OS X as "the" alternative.

If either of you knew what you were talking about and worked more than just a desktop support job you'd of already seen the growing trend of Mac and Linux machines. Turn a blind eye if you want, but be prepared if the time ever comes when you start not getting jobs because you don't have Mac or Linux experience.

You keep talking about this "growing trend." I don't disagree with you that by percentage, OS X, Linux, and anything non-Windows is leaps and bounds ahead of their Windows competitors. After all, if you go from zero to one Mac in a large enterprise, that's an increase of ERROR%. It's just not significant, and you also keep touting "usability" as the reason Windows 8 will fail. When has "usability" (which I assume you mean to the end user) ever been the main concern of enterprise IT? I can answer that for you: Pretty Much Never. hate to break it to you, but large businesses are out to make money. Part of making money is reducing downtime (which the Wintel providers excel at with amazing SLAs, something Apple deems unimportant) and saving costs up front (which the Wintel providers also do with less expensive hardware and software licenses to begin with). Apple cannot and frankly does not compete here, and no matter how much you want them to, sysadmins aren't going to switch their multi-thousand workstation networks over to Macs just because Windows 8 doesn't have a start menu. Get real, please.

Macs replace IT people which usually make them instantly cheaper in the long run.

belvdr's response on this one was pretty good.

Then you must be deploying machines (both OS X and Windows) and not doing anything to manage them (i.e. reacting to issues rather than being proactive). Otherwise, you wouldn't lose 10 people when one department switches to OS X.

If you were actually in IT, it should also be obvious that there is much more to it than just help desk support. How can a desktop Mac replace a network admin, database administrator, SAN administrator, Unix administrator, or a developer? The answer: it can't.

According to this thread I don't know what I'm talking about because Macs came in to our department?

I don't think they said that. You've made enough questionable statements for people to come to that conclusion by other means.