When they stop supporting MP7,1. won't they be inherently stopping bootcamp support?
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MP 7,1 Guess when macOS will stop supporting 7,1
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It is amazing that for those of us who also use Linux, i can run the latest Linux Mint on a machine as old as my MacBookPro (late 2008)...
I wish there was more mainstream software available for Linux as I'd consider moving there.
They already did pretty much a while ago.
For Windows 11 ARM, you don't need it, you can just dual boot regularly I believe. Drivers will be an issue, Apple will never write Windows drivers again so you have to aim to reach the hacking community. I'm pretty sure they will remove Bootcamp when they drop Intel support completely. That's been a bastard child for them since the transition to Intel in mid 2000s.
I initially believed it would be supported for longer, so didn't cast a vote.
Today I voted 2025, in light of the supply side for new parts from Apple.
No way we are going to get support for the Radeon W7000-series, either. As there is no AMD graphics in any Mac, and Apple no longer sells any graphic card, as far as I understand.
It is kind of ironic. Apple couldn't upgrade the 6.1, because of thermal limits.
The 7.1 has not reached any thermal limit. Yet, here we are...
Today I voted 2025, in light of the supply side for new parts from Apple.
No way we are going to get support for the Radeon W7000-series, either. As there is no AMD graphics in any Mac, and Apple no longer sells any graphic card, as far as I understand.
It is kind of ironic. Apple couldn't upgrade the 6.1, because of thermal limits.
The 7.1 has not reached any thermal limit. Yet, here we are...
Well, it looks like we 7,1 owners get another year of supported MacOS… probably our last extension, though.
www.macrumors.com
macOS Sequoia and iPadOS 18 Drop Support for These Macs and iPads
macOS Sequoia is still compatible with several Intel-based Macs, but it does drop support for 2018 and 2019 models of the MacBook Air. macOS...
www.macrumors.com
Good to know - Seqouia will be around for a while at least.
Validates the purchase of the 7,1 (which I got new when they were still on sale) and I will still get plenty of use out of mine.
I am looking to retire my 5,1 machines however - may replace one of them with a PC workstation or get a nicely looked after pre-owned 7,1. The dual X5690 machine could be sold in original box with all original accessories. I might need to get a firmware rebuild on it however before doing that provided I don't have to do any replacement of chips inside it.
I expect MacOS 17 might be the last one to support Intel Mac Pro 2019 - that's if MacOS even exists by that time and if Apple still builds desktop machines. It's hard to tell what direction they might take.
What we can see is Apple will get some serious hate for not dropping Intel support immediately with macOS Sequoia. After all so many people spent so long typing and typing pages and pages of content on why Sonoma would be the last one and this and that and whatever else. They won't be happy.
Validates the purchase of the 7,1 (which I got new when they were still on sale) and I will still get plenty of use out of mine.
I am looking to retire my 5,1 machines however - may replace one of them with a PC workstation or get a nicely looked after pre-owned 7,1. The dual X5690 machine could be sold in original box with all original accessories. I might need to get a firmware rebuild on it however before doing that provided I don't have to do any replacement of chips inside it.
I expect MacOS 17 might be the last one to support Intel Mac Pro 2019 - that's if MacOS even exists by that time and if Apple still builds desktop machines. It's hard to tell what direction they might take.
What we can see is Apple will get some serious hate for not dropping Intel support immediately with macOS Sequoia. After all so many people spent so long typing and typing pages and pages of content on why Sonoma would be the last one and this and that and whatever else. They won't be happy.
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Thankyou. Will be interested to see how it goes and whether it fixes the NVME mounting issue that MacOS suffered before.
Elon Musk is not amused. So it is going to be interesting to follow the discussion on Sequoia, and Apple Intelligence on this forum.
That's what I was going to keep an eye on specifically. It has installed fine - no problems so far.
If the update fixes the problem. Even as a sceptic, I'll have to admit Apple did ok.
Is the AI part disabled on the Intel machines, and your Mac Pro 7.1?
Can't see anything AI related - so it's most likely disabled, as an article says:
I also cannot see the iphone mirroring either. I'm installing iOS 18 now to see if that helps.
I have my MacBook Air M2 installing MacOS 15 now so I'll see the differences on that.
I also cannot see the iphone mirroring either. I'm installing iOS 18 now to see if that helps.
I have my MacBook Air M2 installing MacOS 15 now so I'll see the differences on that.
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Very happy to hear that. But apart from my own personal scepticism on AI.
It is fantastic that the Mac Pro, and even the iMac Pro, are supported in the latest macOS.
Because that is important for many mac users
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The Microsoft AI assistant on my work laptop drives me mad when it interrupts me and does its best impressions of iPhone auto-incarrot (typo intentional).
I just saw that it’s not in yet. I have T2 so not a problem.
Another app I use is giving some slight troubles so there will be work needed with that, but it was expected.
Well, it looks like we 7,1 owners get another year of supported MacOS… probably our last extension, though.
macOS Sequoia and iPadOS 18 Drop Support for These Macs and iPads
macOS Sequoia is still compatible with several Intel-based Macs, but it does drop support for 2018 and 2019 models of the MacBook Air. macOS...
I'd be surprised if they kept this many Intel models going for this long only to drop them all in one swoop without notice. My guess is the next update will drop the iMac 2019 (no T2) and possibly the iMac Pro (older Intel chip) and/or Mac Mini 2018 (pre-2019). After that the remaining MacBook Air.
Once they release a macOS with support for just the MacBook Pro 2019-2020 and Mac Pro 2019, I would assume that's the last release for Intel and the next year will drop Intel completely. It seems like Apple gives "Pro" models an extra 1-2 years of support all else being equal so I assume they will be the last to be dropped.
As such, I'd be surprised if the 2026 macOS doesn't support at least the Mac Pro and I would be surprised if the 2028 macOS still does...
edit: This was wrong assumption by me, sorry
(Apple has changed PCI pool configuration.
I have installed Sonoma 14.5. And it looks to me that it completely disregards the installed graphic cards.
That might be perfectly ok with the AS Mac Pro, but the Intel Mac Pro? Not to happy with this.)
(Apple has changed PCI pool configuration.
I have installed Sonoma 14.5. And it looks to me that it completely disregards the installed graphic cards.
That might be perfectly ok with the AS Mac Pro, but the Intel Mac Pro? Not to happy with this.)
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OK, well MPX Bay slots 1 & 3 aren't counted as part of Pool A or B - Your I/O card is using 4 lanes for built in Thunderbolt, which is 25% of the 16 lanes each pool has. What are you expecting to see?
*edit* my system shows 8 lanes used by the I/O card, 4 or which are presumably the TB lanes for TB video passthrough from the MPX cards.
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Thanks. I remembered seeing full pool allocations, and figured mine looked to low. Did search different threads, and see you are right.
Graphic cards were not in the pools. My mistake.
Yes, anything connected to PCIE slots 1 & 3 are directly connected to the CPU and don't need to be managed by the PCIe switch.