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When will Apple stop supporting Mac Pro 7,1 in macOS?

  • macOS 15 (2024, this year's release after Sonoma)

    Votes: 17 20.5%
  • macOS 16 (2025)

    Votes: 32 38.6%
  • macOS 17 (2026)

    Votes: 34 41.0%

  • Total voters
    83

bax2023

macrumors regular
Nov 14, 2023
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Serbia
Sequoia 15.0 Beta (24A5264n) runs great on MP 7,1. All Adobe 2024 apps work, new Compressor and Final Cut X 10.8, all messenger apps (Viber, WhatsApp, Telegram), latest MS Office, OmniGraffle, Firefox, Fork Lift 4.1.5,....up until now no issues with NVMe mounting. Didn't notice any bugs so far.
 

avro707

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2010
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Sequoia 15.0 Beta (24A5264n) runs great on MP 7,1. All Adobe 2024 apps work, new Compressor and Final Cut X 10.8, all messenger apps (Viber, WhatsApp, Telegram), latest MS Office, OmniGraffle, Firefox, Fork Lift 4.1.5,....up until now no issues with NVMe mounting. Didn't notice any bugs so far.

Teams screen sharing is busted (for everyone). That’s a big nuisance to me (use it a lot for meetings) but expected on a beta.

I have the 6,1 Mac Pro on the same desk so use it for screen sharing where possible.

Agree the Adobe apps are fine.
 

smckenzie

macrumors member
May 7, 2022
97
106
Anyone know if there were any Metal updates along with AMD driver updates for the MPX's on Sequoia?
 

avro707

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2010
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15.1b1 isn't supporting the 2019 Mac Pro at the moment:


AMD driver updates for the MPX's on Sequoia?

I don't know what they changed for the MPXs but it was very unreliable for me (Kernel panics on start up) using W6800X Duos so I swapped them out to my other Mac Pro with Sonoma 14.5.

I had two different W6800X Duos and they both gave lots of kernel panics no matter what, but they run perfectly on Sonoma.
 

throAU

macrumors G3
Feb 13, 2012
9,198
7,345
Perth, Western Australia
15.1b1 isn't supporting the 2019 Mac Pro at the moment:




I don't know what they changed for the MPXs but it was very unreliable for me (Kernel panics on start up) using W6800X Duos so I swapped them out to my other Mac Pro with Sonoma 14.5.

I had two different W6800X Duos and they both gave lots of kernel panics no matter what, but they run perfectly on Sonoma.
Not entirely surprising, Navi 2 GPUs are only used in a single machine in Apple's lineup (the Pro 7,1 - and then only in a select few high end, late release configurations) and there's likely a single digit number of users worldwide running Sonoma beta on them.

I'm sure that will be fixed prior to release.
 

Ilikecheese_91

macrumors newbie
Jan 30, 2024
15
19
Sub-Artic America
2027!
That’ll mean my MBP would also have support until then as well. Since both it and the 7,1 CPU’s are Skylake processors. Last Intel Club, or whatever the kids say.

Hopefully, whatever ends up as our last major macOS update. It gets some serious optimizations. Screw new features. Just one good comb-through of the code. Similar to how Catalina was their “optimization over new features”.

I doubt they will add new GPU support. With the M-Series Mac Pro having dropped GPU support. They’ll likely keep generic PCIe drivers somewhat current. They’ve had plenty of time to add RDNA3 support for the W/RT 7900s. I don’t know if they would somehow be required or expected to make an MPX variant if they add support for it. Even as a silent update. So maybe just avoiding the need for production by ignoring it.

Either way, I just hope that whatever is the last update. It isn’t a ****** one, plagued with bugs and other instabilities..
 

bzgnyc2

macrumors 6502
Dec 8, 2023
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408
2027!
That’ll mean my MBP would also have support until then as well. Since both it and the 7,1 CPU’s are Skylake processors. Last Intel Club, or whatever the kids say.

Hopefully, whatever ends up as our last major macOS update. It gets some serious optimizations. Screw new features. Just one good comb-through of the code. Similar to how Catalina was their “optimization over new features”.

I doubt they will add new GPU support. With the M-Series Mac Pro having dropped GPU support. They’ll likely keep generic PCIe drivers somewhat current. They’ve had plenty of time to add RDNA3 support for the W/RT 7900s. I don’t know if they would somehow be required or expected to make an MPX variant if they add support for it. Even as a silent update. So maybe just avoiding the need for production by ignoring it.

Either way, I just hope that whatever is the last update. It isn’t a ****** one, plagued with bugs and other instabilities..

I agree with your conclusions though i disagree with you as far as Catalina as a model. It should have been an optimization over Mojave but that was not my experience. Despite removing functionality and compatability, it somehow got bulkier.
 

mattspace

macrumors 68040
Jun 5, 2013
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Australia
I agree with your conclusions though i disagree with you as far as Catalina as a model. It should have been an optimization over Mojave but that was not my experience. Despite removing functionality and compatability, it somehow got bulkier.

Yeah, it introduced a bunch of new things like Music and Podcasts apps, killing off Tunes, and then for folks where it was the last OS supported version, they're left high and dry with bad version 1 apps replacing a mature iTunes.
 

bzgnyc2

macrumors 6502
Dec 8, 2023
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Yeah, it introduced a bunch of new things like Music and Podcasts apps, killing off Tunes, and then for folks where it was the last OS supported version, they're left high and dry with bad version 1 apps replacing a mature iTunes.

Yes and also 32-bit/i386 support (the big one but granted also streamlined Rosetta2), Dashboard, and I believe further eroded subpixel antialiasing support. There may have been something else but those are the first to come to mind.

What I don't understand in particular is how the OS got so much bigger despite dropping an entire ABI.

I won't argue that Mojave was the apex of OS and nothing should have changed from there but Catalina was when I felt like the deal changed. It used to be 1 thing lost for 2 things gained while Catalina was like 2 things lost for 1 IOU.
 

sunnyjohn2

macrumors regular
Dec 31, 2017
208
31
Yep - the OS is bigger. I've got Windows on Boot Camp and am running out of space. A 2TB HD seems to be a must.
 
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