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Quick Question.. maybe an update on this?

Hi,

I have iMac 800 flat panel running Leopard just fine (10.5.1)... just NICE!!

The only 2 problems since installing Leopard (and I read that the same problems for whoever installed it on these flat panel machines):

1.- When it goes to sleep it does wake up with a 'colorful' stripped screen' (so it has to be rebooted via ssh) - so not able to wake up properly only due to video. But it actually wakes up just fine (just the video is screwed up).

2.- The "turn off monitor" option does not work, when this option is selected (that it worked just fine on Tiger), the screen freezes on whatever image it has at the moment (or screensaver if used), so it does not turn off, moving mouse goes to regular screen...

So basically, it works just fine and having a screensaver helps but I would like it to turn off the monitor at least. Does anyone find out a way to fix this yet?

Thanks, and sorry if someone already answer these questions, I could not find it on search. It seems Power management does not work as it should with Leopard, update to 10.5.1 did not fix it...

Thanks again.
 
Install leopard on sub mac G4 800Mhertz

:eek:I have done everything you have suggested and everything was fine except Disc utility that will not burn my "sparse image " of 7,6 GB because my DVD is to small.only 4,7GB.He does not neither proposes me a second or + disc.
Can you help me to find the solution please Thank you very much. :)

Jean pierre schmit ...jeepee005 ...Belgium.
 
Success on PM G4 Dual 500 But...

I just can't get my Sonnet Tempo ATA133 card to work properly. It worked fine under Tiger with a 320 gig drive but after I installed leopard I am back to the 127 gig limitation. Does anyone know of a updated driver or firmware. or is any one running theirs normally under leopard?
 
:eek:I have done everything you have suggested and everything was fine except Disc utility that will not burn my "sparse image " of 7,6 GB because my DVD is to small.only 4,7GB.He does not neither proposes me a second or + disc.
Can you help me to find the solution please Thank you very much. :)

Jean pierre schmit ...jeepee005 ...Belgium.

Try this:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/383609/
 
install "leo" without burning on G4 flat pannel 800Mhertz (over 2003)

:):):)you must first attempt or reach the script document through the distribution folder like indicated in the informations :):):) I think that, just changing the script from "false to true" in the script ,like said in the indication before. + xxxoooooo in 867ooooooo would be enough,then restart with the original "leo apple install"and push on the "C"key when restarting ,and it will go.:D:p:rolleyes:
You can maybe also use first the "leo install assist" for more confidence in your try?:eek:

Thank you all.:D:cool::p;):eek::(:):confused::eek::mad::
 
not necessary to burn the new sparse image."c" key push to restart.

Things you will need
  • A Mac
  • Decent DVD burner, DL is best
  • A clean Leopard disc or official dmg
  • A decent image manipulator, Carbon Copy Cloner or disc utility
  • Darwin Ports with xar installed, if running Tiger or below. Don't need this if running Leopard.
  • Terminal knowledge, helps, but I will give commands too. Mainly don't be afraid to do some things manually.
  • Patience

Step 1: Setup
In 10.5 Apple has changed their package type to xar, unfortunately it is not built into Tiger. Luckily an opensource app called Darwin Ports, has ports of all sorts of open source things. I will detail this section more later for those having trouble. I ran into a problem, but I don't remember how I solved it, basically the package update wouldn't run. If someone runs into it, I will let them know how to fix it. (This turned out to be the C compiler)

Install Darwin Ports. Installation instructions are on the page after you download.
  • Download from here: http://darwinports.com/download/
  • Run the installer
  • I found that a restart was good at this point
  • Run terminal and type the following
    Code:
    sudo port -d selfupdate
  • The darwin ports install should be complete now.

*NOTES* If you get the following error: "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH," this is because you have no compiler. This is the issue I ran into and I realized I hadn't installed XCODE on this Mac. I have the disk from my developer tools so I installed it from there. You can also get it here: Developer Tools

Next you will need to install xar, the installation instructions are on the linked page.
  • If everything went well with the DarwinPorts installation continue with this
  • In Terminal type
    Code:
    sudo port install xar
  • Depending on the speed of the Mac this may take some time since it needs to get the dependencies and compile
  • If everything goes without error you have successfully installed XAR
There is a report that the new XCODE includes Xar. I did not find this to be true in my test. I will talk with Tupring to get a description on that process. For now, I recommend this method, at least until I can do further testing.

Also, install Carbon Copy Cloner, you can get this here. CCC

Now you are ready for the fun, assuming everything is working!

Step 2: Make a new image
Use your disc or dmg to create a sparse image, this will maintain the disc contents with block level copying, it will also make your image write-able. Use Carbon Copy Cloner to make the sparse image. Carbon Copy Cloner is pretty straight forward, on the left side choose "Restore from disk image" and on the right choose "New disk image." You will get a dialog select the location for the image and give it a name. Further be sure to select the read and write option. Then run the clone. CCC is actually heaps faster than FreeDMG anyhow.

Now, once you have the new dmg. Get info on it, expand the Ownership and Permission section and be sure to set yourself up to have read and write access. (you will need to authenticate with the lock).

This process worked like a charm for me when I tested it on 10-26-2007. This is one of the definite routes to take. See the following to get an idea of what I sorta know. I apologize for not being able to test every option and honestly when I made the guide i had fumbled through the whole process myself. I reinstalled Tiger however to make this guide better. :)

This relates to number 6, which I know some people have had trouble with. I did too, and tons of it. To be honest, I don't remember the exact way I ended up doing it. I am testing out better methods to make this work better. Here are some things I know and don't know.

1. FreeDMG does not work for doing this.
2. CCC may work for doing this, it is also faster
3. Burning the original DMG to disk and using diskutil to make a read-write image may work as well, it would be nice to cut out the burning step.
4. Not also that Diskutil has a converting option. In my tests this did not work, however it could have been my source DMG.

I will stress here the idea of having a clean DMG/Disk. If you have a Leopard disk, I strongly advise creating an image from it in diskutil or possibly CCC.

Step 3: Bust it open!
If you are good with terminal, copy the following file from the mounted image (/System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg somewhere so you can work on it (Desktop works well), for those not so good, you can use this terminal command which is useful anyway! I have found that depending on the build version or dmg you have, it may or may not show the folders. If it does show it, you don't have to do this next step.

Code:
defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles True
Followed by
Code:
Killall Finder

This will show all hidden files. To change it back, simply change the value to False and kill the Finder. Now, go into to the DMG, you should see some new stuff in there. You want to navigate to /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg, copy this file to the desktop.

Now create a folder called package on the Desktop. Fire up terminal again, navigate to the package folder. You should be at the home directory by default so you can type the following:

Code:
cd desktop/package

Now comes the fun part. Type the following:
Code:
xar -x -v -f ~/Desktop/OSInstall.mpkg

If this fails, there is a problem with your xar installation. I will work with you to troubleshoot this. If it works you should see some files being extracted to the package folder. Great!

Step 4: Hack that code!
Now, if you made it here we are getting close. Now, go into the package folder you made. You should see a file called Distribution. Good, back it up somewhere and then open the original with Textedit. You should now see some wonderful code. You want to pay attention to this part of the script (changed to GM version):

Code:
 var minRam = 512;

	function checkSupportedMachine(machineType){
		// Fail on G3
		if (1 != system.sysctl('hw.vectorunit') ) {
			return false;
		}

		var badMachines = ['MacBook3,1','iMac','PowerBook1,1','PowerBook2,1', 'AAPL,Gossamer', 'AAPL,PowerMac G3', 'AAPL,PowerBook1998', 'AAPL,PowerBook1999'];
		
		if(machineType){
			var length = badMachines.length;
			
			// Fail if any of the compatible values match the list of badMachines
			for( var j = 0; j < length; j++ ){
				if(machineType == badMachines[j]){
						return false;
				} 

			}
			
		}
	
		// require 867Mhz+
		if (system.sysctl("hw.cpufrequency") < 866000000) {
			return false;	
		}
			
		return true;
	}

Now, you can probably see where you need to make edits. First take a look at the G3 section. You can simply change it to return true, if you need to install on a G3. It has been said that you still can't install on a G3, I have no way to test this at the moment. I have to wonder though, why even add a section about G3s if it was just not an option (as in you couldn't even boot the disk as some have said). Same goes for the badMachines section. Or you can also simply remove the "bad machines" you have.

Now comes the cpu speed.

Code:
if (system.sysctl("hw.cpufrequency") < xxx000000) {
return false;

Where 'xxx' is the minimum processor speed. I have a DP 500 (which makes no difference, it is still seen at 500Mhz), so I changed mine to 499. I don't think you will gain any advantage by dropping it lower than the speed you need, other than having a disc that can be used on any Mac if you drop it to say, 0Mhz, although I would do 1Mhz as 0 may cause a problem.

Simple changing the false to a true will also work here. And is probably a more elegant solution throughout. I actually think removing the entire section would be the best solution. However, I have not tested this theory. My concern is that something else is there to be sure these things have returned values. Until we get a test on this, I am more inclined to say the section should remain in place, but simply be edited.

You can also edit the RAM and anything else really. Just be sure what you are doing will help you in some way ;)

Now, save the document and exit textedit.

Step 5: Wrap it up
Now we are going to reverse the step 3 by repackaging the altered contents. Hop back into terminal and type the following:

Code:
xar -c ./ -v -f ~/Desktop/NewOSInstall.mpkg

And just like that, you should have a new package on your desktop.

Step 6: New mpkg placement
Now that we have a new mpkg, navigate back to the /System/Installation/Packages folder. Rename the old OSInstall.mpkg, I usually do OSInstall.mpkg.old, Finder will ask if you want to append the new extension, say yes. Now, drop in the NewOSInstall.mpkg, rename it to OSInstall.mpkg.

You now have a disc image ready.

I know there have been some problems with this. Admittedly I also had a big problem with this part. My solution was to burn the dmg to DVD, then rip it back. Again, I also think this is largely related to the integrity of the original image you are working with. If you are working with a torrent or slightly modified image, it won't work so well. If you are working with a clean image and or ripping from DVD, the sparseimage should work flawlessly (pending you set permission properly). I am in the process of making this an easier and more clear process.

Step 7: Resizing the image for SL-DVD (optional)
Coming soon!

Step 8: Burn it baby!
Now it is time to burn the image to a DVD. You can do one of two things, burn the sparseimage or make a read only cd master out of the image. I originally made a cdr image, but that didn't work too well. Burning the sparseimage worked best for me. Your mileage may vary. Note though, my DVD burner is a max 4x. (EDIT: I got a new burner, 20x woot!) Anyhow, try the sparseimage out, if that doesn't work try to make a read only image.

You can use diskutil to burn the image.

Step 9: The true test
Now you have the DVD. Lets boot it up. You will know right away whether or not it worked. You will get the message right away. If so, you possibly made a mistake somewhere. Once you get to actual menu to install Leopard you are home free!

Some have been getting kernel panics when the disk is loading, here is what some have said will work.

Add:
AppleCore99PE.kext
AppleMLANAudio.kext

Replace:
AppleMPIC.kext
ApplePMU.kext

When I get the GM, I will be sure to see what happens on mine without changing the kexts. Power Mac G4, DP 500, Gigabit.

Edits to come:
  • Screen shots
  • More detailed terminal commands
  • Troubleshooting tips
  • I will turn this into a printable PDF with screenshots in the coming week(s)
  • Resizing for SL-DVD

Have fun!
:):):)I think, because i was succesfull like that,:Dthat just changing from "false to true" in the script + 867ooooooooo in place of xxx000000000 would be enough to restart succesfully with the original "leopard" :p:pif you also push the "c" key at restart.:rolleyes::confused::) It worked for me because I was not able to burn the sparse image. Thank you all and good luck.:):cool:;)
 
i still can not get past step 6 despite all posts here. i'm using leopard.
heres a screenshot of my issue:


you can see that my permissions are greyed out, ownership ignored. well for some reason that means i keep getting this when i try to drag/drop NewOSInstall.mpkg or try to change the name of anything in the folder:



please help! this hack is seemingly impossible... too many roadblocks.
 
still can not get...

i still can not get past step 6 despite all posts here. i'm using leopard.
heres a screenshot of my issue:


you can see that my permissions are greyed out, ownership ignored. well for some reason that means i keep getting this when i try to drag/drop NewOSInstall.mpkg or try to change the name of anything in the folder:



please help! this hack is seemingly impossible... too many roadblocks.
:)Have you good folowed the step 2 in step 2.:eek: You must do a sparse image for to have ,with the sparse ,the possibility to change the permissions:rolleyes: ,the real DMG will not allow you.:cool: That is the reason, you must first make a sparse image:D then with the sparse image you can change the permissions in getting infos and then change it and then use your personnal sparse image in read and write,and then use your personnal sparse image with your read and write permission s in the package and that image will normally be allowed to use for the drag in the package.
Do not forget neither, when you make your sparse image with copy cloner in the right side of the CCC interface to chek readable and writable,before cloning it .
Good luck anyway and do not panic you will soon be in order,believe me.:):);):)
 
:)Have you good folowed the step 2 in step 2.:eek: You must do a sparse image for to have ,with the sparse ,the possibility to change the permissions:rolleyes: ,the real DMG will not allow you.:cool: That is the reason, you must first make a sparse image:D then with the sparse image you can change the permissions in getting infos and then change it and then use your personnal sparse image in read and write,and then use your personnal sparse image with your read and write permission s in the package and that image will normally be allowed to use for the drag in the package.
Do not forget neither, when you make your sparse image with copy cloner in the right side of the CCC interface to chek readable and writable,before cloning it .
Good luck anyway and do not panic you will soon be in order,believe me.:):);):)

yes i used CCC to make a sparse image. that is why i was shocked when it gave me these weird things. i've given up on doing it this way. im using a friends powerbook 1.25ghz to do a target disk mode install.... so much easier.
 
yes i used CCC to make a sparse image. that is why i was shocked when it gave me these weird things. i've given up on doing it this way. im using a friends powerbook 1.25ghz to do a target disk mode install.... so much easier.

:confused: :mad: :rolleyes:Thank you anyway.I am not a specialist :cool:.I just succeed to install without having to burn. :rolleyes: :p:eek:
My driver and dvd disk were to small-4.5 giga bites for 7.4 requested.I read somewhere in the forum not to forget to push the "c" key between the final restart of installing the apple "leo disk"
Considering that the change in the script(from false to thrue) and changing the cpu script like they recommand it from xxx000000 to 86700000 would be maybe enough to install ,i tryed without confidence to try that .Knowing I had already done all these things. I suggest to myself to restart original "léo" pushing the "c" key and it worked succesfully:D :eek: :rolleyes:Good luck anyway but you will also succeed. Jean Pierre ....Belgium.
 
Kernel Panic

1st thing I did on with my Sawtooth (upgraded to dual g4 500Mhz) was boot it in target mode, boot my iBook g4 1Ghz and install to the Sawtooth disk. The install went fine however the Sawtooth rebooted with the Kernel Panic and the "unable to find driver for this platform PowerMac3,1" msg.

Just an FYI. I am going to try to boot from the modified install DVD however I get the same msg I would say that there are just no drivers for some systems.

any one resolve this? I wasnt able to get the cd to burn, guess I am having some dvd burner issues. So I just restored the sparse image to a hard drive and I am booting it. I then get a kernel panic only difference is mine is dual 500MHZ g4 w/ 1 gig of memory. ATI Rage 128 Video card. Any help would be great.
 
Things you will need

Some have been getting kernel panics when the disk is loading, here is what some have said will work.

Add:
AppleCore99PE.kext
AppleMLANAudio.kext

Replace:
AppleMPIC.kext
ApplePMU.kext


Have fun!


Where do I get these files and where do I put them???? Kinda vague. Thank you
 
any one resolve this? I wasnt able to get the cd to burn, guess I am having some dvd burner issues. So I just restored the sparse image to a hard drive and I am booting it. I then get a kernel panic only difference is mine is dual 500MHZ g4 w/ 1 gig of memory. ATI Rage 128 Video card. Any help would be great.


did you check to see if your firmware on your Mac (if sawtooth) is up to date, cause if its not you will get this kernel panic when you try to boot Leo on it. this was discussed a few pages back
 
I cant seem to boot into OSX 9, I got a cd from a friend. Holding down C button but I keep getting a ? icon. Any ideas?

What keyboard (USB?)? Do other CDs load fine when running? What version of OS 9? A general install CD or a machine-specific CD (if they made those for OS 9)?

Also, zap your PRAM and also reset your open firmware (do a search).
 
USB PC Keyboard, DUAL g5 500MHZ gigabit Ethernet model.

some PC KB have problems handling boot key combos or boot keys in general ( my Yikes G4 wont respond to any boot time key commands, i had to use a Apple USB KB to do any). also if its a gray disk then its a system specific disk and might not boot on your G4. but if you get it to boot then check your firmware to see if it needs updated (if its not 4.2.8 then you need to update). f you can borrow a USB Apple KB from someone if they have one cause you will need it before you can do boot time key commands

this is the firmware you will need http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120068 (it has to be this version before you can run leopard)

( first check to see if its that version once you get a OS on it) but the OS needed to flash the new firmware on it has to be OS 9.1 or higher, your Mac is capable of running 9.0.4 and above it will not boot anything lower.
 
I have a branded cd with OS9 on it, has a yellow 9 covering the cd. It looks like a retail version of OS9. It doesnt how ever say the exact version of os9.
 
Got a Apple keyboard older one but its certainly apple. No dice with holding down the C. Also the CDROM says its "Featuring Sherlock 2" Still get the ? when I boot up
 
update

Just tried a Panther CD, that didnt work as well. The only cd that seems to boot is the Leopard dvd, and thats the one that gives me a kernel panic.

Any ideas, Anyone?
 
Your Panther CD should boot. I don't know why it wouldn't. Anyhow, there may be another way to handle this:

Put your OS 9 CD in after you boot into whatever OS is preloaded already (you do have a bootable OS on your hard drive, do you not?). Download and run Tomeviewer. This will allow you to view and extract files from your OS 9 install CD. See if you can install the OS that way. If it is 9.1 on your CD then the computer should reboot after all is done. If it does, update to 9.2.1 and then 9.2.2 as I said before. Then, update your firmware.
 
No Os

I have no OS installed, and I cant install from another host mac to this mac because all the other macs are Intel, tried that already. ARGH!@#!
 
I have no OS installed, and I cant install from another host mac to this mac because all the other macs are Intel, tried that already. ARGH!@#!

since you have a Apple KB as soon as you hear the start chime hold the Apple+option+o+f until you see the command line and type the following

reset-nvram (press enter/return)
reset-all (press enter/return)

the following is to reset pram as soon as you hear the start chime hold Apple+option+r+p and keep them held till you hear the start chime 3 times.

after this it should boot the CD/DVD, if it dont you can always try to hold option key as soon as you hear the start chime it should take you to a screen so you can choose what OS to boot ( but since you dont have one installed) it wont show one, put the CD/DVD in the drive you want to boot and hit refresh the CD/DVD should show up, select it and hit the forward button.
 
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