[Guide] Installing 10.9 Mavericks on older Macs. -HackerWayne

[ajseesink]

Freeze after sleep mode

I hope someone can help me with this one.
I have a Mac Pro 1.1 (2006 model). After using (and following) the guide I installed a fresh copy of Mavericks and it works super so far. There is however one thing that is annoying.

When I put my Mac pro in sleep mode (I used to do this always with Lion) and put it out of sleep my mac pro freezes completely after about 20 seconds.
I have to hard power down the mac pro and start it up again.

Does anyone know a fix for this?

 

[ryanschmidt]

Hey guys, thanks a lot for this guide. I am going to try it on my Mac Pro 1,1 but I have a question before I do...

I have two video cards (3 displays) and am wondering if I am going to have an issue with either of the cards. Anyone have experience with the ATI Radeon HD 3870 and 4870?

 

[Hennesie2000]

I hope someone can help me with this one.
I have a Mac Pro 1.1 (2006 model). After using (and following) the guide I installed a fresh copy of Mavericks and it works super so far. There is however one thing that is annoying.

When I put my Mac pro in sleep mode (I used to do this always with Lion) and put it out of sleep my mac pro freezes completely after about 20 seconds.
I have to hard power down the mac pro and start it up again.

Does anyone know a fix for this?

You might want to try putting the SleepEnabler.kext in your modules folder. Or do you gave GraphicsEnabler turned on? If you can find the crash log, google the error code and look on the various hackintosh forums for a fix.

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On another note, has anyone tried restoring from a TimeMachine backup from Lion or Mt. Lion after installing Mavericks fresh? I am helping a friend set up his Mac Pro and he was wondering. I don't use TimeMachine so I can't help him with that.

 

[Jamez3rd]

Thanks to all involved. I have my Mac Pro 1.1 with Mavericks installed. I want to dual boot windows 7 also. Has anyone tried yet or should i just follow a dual boot mountain lion guide with windows?

 

[Snowshiro]

Guess what? I've never had any trouble installing ML or Mavericks on Mac Pro 1,1. I don't care if alleged experts are lying or not. As I said, I don't like surprises. I know how to install Mavericks on a Mac Pro 1,1, and I don't need the advice of alleged experts, lying or not. Do you have a problem with that?

My point is simply that you are passing off your suspicions as legitimate advice. Accusing people who have actually done the things they're talking about (when you haven't) of not being truthful when they've offered perfectly sound advice to date and have no reason to be doubted, doesn't help anyone. Why would multiple people report that kernel and boot files are unnecessary and they've installed without needing them if that's not the case? It's hardly the most likely method to troll other Mac owners.

I ran a test on a spare hard drive to see if the information is correct, and indeed it is. The kernel contained within the Mavericks distribution itself is all that is required. No further editing of files is needed on the installer. That's all that needs to be known. What credible reason do you have for doubting that?

Edit: lessened the tone a little

 

[Hennesie2000]

Thanks to all involved. I have my Mac Pro 1.1 with Mavericks installed. I want to dual boot windows 7 also. Has anyone tried yet or should i just follow a dual boot mountain lion guide with windows?

I am dual booting Mavericks and Windows 7. Are you doing a fresh install of Windows and if so is it on the same drive as Mavericks or on another HDD?

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My point is simply that you are passing off your suspicions as legitimate advice. Accusing people who have actually done the things they're talking about (when you haven't) of not being truthful when they've offered perfectly sound advice to date and have no reason to be doubted, doesn't help anyone. Why would multiple people report that kernel and boot files are unnecessary and they've installed without needing them if that's not the case? It's hardly the most likely method to troll other Mac owners.

I ran a test on a spare hard drive to see if the information is correct, and indeed it is. The kernel contained within the Mavericks distribution itself is all that is required. No further editing of files is needed on the installer. That's all that needs to be known. What credible reason do you have for doubting that?

Yea I have tested it several time as well just to completely familiarize myself with the process. I can get a Mac Pro 1,1 running with a clean install of Mavericks in about 45mins. Most of that is just waiting for Mavericks to install.

 

[PeterHolbrook]

My point is simply that you are passing off your suspicions as legitimate advice. Accusing people who have actually done the things they're talking about (when you haven't) of not being truthful when they've offered perfectly sound advice to date and have no reason to be doubted, doesn't help anyone. Why would multiple people report that kernel and boot files are unnecessary and they've installed without needing them if that's not the case? It's hardly the most likely method to troll other Mac owners.

I ran a test on a spare hard drive to see if the information is correct, and indeed it is. The kernel contained within the Mavericks distribution itself is all that is required. No further editing of files is needed on the installer. That's all that needs to be known. What credible reason do you have for doubting that?

Edit: lessened the tone a little

Well, if that's the response you were expected, that's probably the kind of response you deserved? Did I insult anyone? No, I didn't. Have you insulted me? Most certainly. Did I call anyone liars? No, I didn't. Am I the one having problems installing Mavericks on obsolete hardware? Nope. I've done it several times following Jabbawok's blog without any trouble. It has always worked on different machines. Do I need anyone's advice to make it work? Nope. It works just as it is. Do I need to "improve" on this method? Nope. It works just as it is. Do I need your "expert" advice? Not really. What for? When I said I tended not to believe certain claims on how to improve Jabbawok's method, was I spreading false information? Only people with limited reading comprehension would consider that explicitly expressing such an opinion constitutes an attack on the veracity of other people.

Now, do you have a problem with that, "sir"?

 

[batmanofzurenar]

I'm working on some music videos atm so I'm kinda stuck with the 2nd GM release of Mavericks until I finish those . I'll be attempting 2 separate methods, an upgrade and a clean install. I'll post my findings here . Everyone is doing a good job getting here! Keep up the good work !

Note: I've been able to upgrade Mavericks flawlessly starting from DP1 up to GM2 release through software update. Haven't had to do a clean install yet.

 

[Hennesie2000]

I'm working on some music videos atm so I'm kinda stuck with the 2nd GM release of Mavericks until I finish those . I'll be attempting 2 separate methods, an upgrade and a clean install. I'll post my findings here . Everyone is doing a good job getting here! Keep up the good work !

Note: I've been able to upgrade Mavericks flawlessly starting from DP1 up to GM2 release through software update. Haven't had to do a clean install yet.

I updated from GM1 to GM2 without any issues. However my update didn't involve the AppStore. I am curious to see how that will work with 10.9.1. GM2 is the same as the public release though so need to do anything if you are on GM2.

 

[batmanofzurenar]

I updated from GM1 to GM2 without any issues. However my update didn't involve the AppStore. I am curious to see how that will work with 10.9.1. GM2 is the same as the public release though so need to do anything if you are on GM2.

It should go fine as long as chameleon is up to date. A lot of people who report failed upgrades when the DP's were being released were forgetting that one golden rule .

 

[Jamez3rd]

I am dual booting Mavericks and Windows 7. Are you doing a fresh install of Windows and if so is it on the same drive as Mavericks or on another HDD?

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It's going to be a fresh install of Windows. I have 4 drives in my system so i can go either route. Thanks for the response!

 

[nick85]

batmanofzurenar ... Hope you will show your tutorial for upgrading from GM 1 to 2

Tried to upgrade from Mavericks GM 1 to GM 2 on my mac pro 2.1

cant find my mistake ... Installer partition says that I should clean my installer CD ?

 

[Hennesie2000]

It's going to be a fresh install of Windows. I have 4 drives in my system so i can go either route. Thanks for the response!

Let me run through it again on a spare HDD... I did it once and I know the main key is that after you install windows, the Windows MBR takes over and it won't boot to Chameleon anymore. You have to use the CMD prompt and Diskpart.exe and set the active partition to the partition where you installed Mavericks.

What I am unsure about here is if I got the message "can't find bootable device" at this point (I just don't remember). To fix that you would need to re-bless the Chameleon boot.

 

[hughjasswhole]

Is there a download of MVPF somewhere?

 

[gio64]

Hey guys, thanks a lot for this guide. I am going to try it on my Mac Pro 1,1 but I have a question before I do...

I have two video cards (3 displays) and am wondering if I am going to have an issue with either of the cards. Anyone have experience with the ATI Radeon HD 3870 and 4870?

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I HAD a 3870 in. It installed and worked, but the resolution of the 3870 was just screwed up and there was no way to change that. I ended up accelerating on a decision I had already made, which was to buy a 5770. Now it's all good.

For the record -and keeping in mind I'm no expert at this- I tried to tweak anything I could and nothing helped the situation.

I asked here as well and the general opinion -IIRC- was that it wasn't supported and it wasn't going to work.

I hope this helps.

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Let me run through it again on a spare HDD... I did it once and I know the main key is that after you install windows, the Windows MBR takes over and it won't boot to Chameleon anymore. You have to use the CMD prompt and Diskpart.exe and set the active partition to the partition where you installed Mavericks.

What I am unsure about here is if I got the message "can't find bootable device" at this point (I just don't remember). To fix that you would need to re-bless the Chameleon boot.

I'm still having an issue with Windows.
I ended up deleting my partition and trying to reinstall.
Although the installation worked, I still have the same problem.
I tried to use DiskManagement to set Mavericks as the active partition, but it is a definite no go in the sense that it does not allow me to set that partition as active.

Now, my Mavericks partition is Mac OS Extended, so I think that is why I can't set it active. I tried with DiskPart and I had the same problem.
Am I doing something wrong? Could somebody help?
Thanks.

 

[tripmusic]

I have a 4870 card and it is working, though it shows as a 4800 when booted with Cameleon.

Hey guys, thanks a lot for this guide. I am going to try it on my Mac Pro 1,1 but I have a question before I do...

I have two video cards (3 displays) and am wondering if I am going to have an issue with either of the cards. Anyone have experience with the ATI Radeon HD 3870 and 4870?

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[hezr]

If you are setting up a new HDD you can create the startup partition on there. I tried a method of creating a chameleon/installer partition on an existing OS 10.7.5 partition using disk utility and I was also getting the "no bootable device found...". I was hoping that I would be able to upgrade a 10.7.5 install using only the Mac Pro. I will have to mess around with it more later.

That would work, but I am trying to keep my system drive raided (makes the machine quite a bit more responsive.)

I ended up putting a spare PATA drive in to boot off of, worked alright. Still kind of curious why it wouldn't recognize the compact flash adapter.

 

[RV-ABZ]

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[Snowshiro]

It should go fine as long as chameleon is up to date. A lot of people who report failed upgrades when the DP's were being released were forgetting that one golden rule .

This is a really important point worth echoing since I think it's still causing problems for people. Some users in this forum have been pointing people towards jabbawok's guide for installing mountain lion as a guide to mavericks. It's a fantastic guide, and the process is pretty close to the mavericks install process, but the version of chameleon he uses was fine for ML, but WILL NOT BOOT the mavericks installer. For that you need an up to date copy of chamelon. The one linked from batmanofzurenar's website will work, or just go and get the latest release.

Basically, if you use jabbawok's guide:

1. You need a more recent version of chameleon than the one he mentions
2. You do not need to edit the installation files (only the chameleon files) [Edit: This includes the SMBios.plist file that resides in the BOOT partition - see Hennesie2000's comment immediately below]. Just restore the installer to a partition as he suggests.
3. You do not need to copy the kernel and boot files to the installer root.

 

[Hennesie2000]

Basically, if you use jabbawok's guide:

1. You need a more recent version of chameleon than the one he mentions
2. You do not need to edit the installation files (only the chameleon files). Just restore the installer to a partition as he suggests.
3. You do not need to copy the kernel and boot files to the installer root.

You will need to make sure that the SMBios file reflects a Mac Pro 3,1 or higher. If it is setup up as a 1,1 or 2,1 the installer will tell you that it cannot install Mavericks on this Mac. It will let you boot the installer but right after the language selection you will get that error. The SMBios from batmans guide will work.

 

[Snowshiro]

You will need to make sure that the SMBios file reflects a Mac Pro 3,1 or higher. If it is setup up as a 1,1 or 2,1 the installer will tell you that it cannot install Mavericks on this Mac. It will let you boot the installer but right after the language selection you will get that error. The SMBios from batmans guide will work.

Thanks for the correction - it's an important point. I was a bit lax with my definition of "chameleon files", when I meant files on the boot partition. Edited my comment to reflect this.

 

[YaQb]

MacBook Pro 2,1

Hi,
I would like to ask how to update my mac to Meverick.
I have read this guide and I know that somewhere is problem with macbooks pro 2,1.
So, Should I leave that idea or maybe you know some solution how to instal this os?

Best Regards and sorry for disterbing YOU but no one could help me.

 

[Hennesie2000]

I'm still having an issue with Windows.
I ended up deleting my partition and trying to reinstall.
Although the installation worked, I still have the same problem.
I tried to use DiskManagement to set Mavericks as the active partition, but it is a definite no go in the sense that it does not allow me to set that partition as active.

Now, my Mavericks partition is Mac OS Extended, so I think that is why I can't set it active. I tried with DiskPart and I had the same problem.
Am I doing something wrong? Could somebody help?
Thanks.

What is happening again when you try to boot to Chameleon?

 

[gio64]

What is happening again when you try to boot to Chameleon?

If I double-click the EFI boot disk, it goes into Windows.

Now I tried to use the DiskPart in Windows, but it says that the partition isn't MBR, so I can't set it as the active partition.

In the meantime, I decided to redo the whole thing. I have prepared the startup disk and I am now restoring an image with the installer to an internal disk to re-install Mavericks.

Having said that, I don't think Mavs installs in MBR and so I think it'll not let me reinstall?

UPDATE
I reinstalled Mavericks and to do that I had to first repartition to change the installation from MBR to GUID.
The installation I prepped did not allow me to install on the MBR.
Also, I can report that I did not have to place the mach kernel in the Mavericks HD to get it to work

 

[Snowshiro]

If I double-click the EFI boot disk, it goes into Windows.

What happens when you bless the chameleon boot partition using the terminal (so that the machine automatically selects it on startup) and then edit Org.chameleon.Boot.plist to point to the Mavericks partition?

Edit: So, it's all working ok now?