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the SoC. people expected yearly updates and then the worldwide silicon shortage happened—just feels like quite a trend on MR where they’re constantly in a lose-lose situation.

no yearly updates: “where are the updates we were promised?!”

yearly updates: “why are they upgrading the computer just a YEAR after I bought my new one?!”

thankfully, there are a lot of voices of reason here. a yearly upgrade has become virtually unnecessary with the advent of AS (and this extends to the A-series, which it’s clear was their near-15 year practice run for the M-series). (oh man, another post gushing about my M2 MBP) my laptop perfectly suits my needs and barring some kind of accident (and even then, minus loss/theft, I’m covered under AppleCare+ after one too many out-of-pocket logic board replacements over the years), I can’t see myself updating for at least another five years.

unless I magically become rich and can update just for the sake of it. but I’d like to think I would allocate that capital in a bit wiser of a manner 🤪
I’m not sure why anyone expected the M chip refreshes to be yearly.
The M chips are just the continuation of the old iPad A-X chips, and those weren’t yearly.
A9X: September 2015
A10X: June 2017
A12X: October 2018
M1: November 2020
M2: June 2022
18-24 months has been the norm for the last 8 years.
 
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Not gonna happen. My guess is that the MBA gets a processor refresh and Apple calls it a day. Maybe some other minor improvements here and there.
No reason why not. There is nothing Pro about a 120hz screen. Even Ross Young is saying ProMotion screens are coming to the non-Pro iPhones in 2025. Apple can do the same with their Macbook lineup.
 
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What about the 13" MB Pro (with Touch Bar)? I love the small size & TouchBar.
Mark Gurman, in his most recent newsletter, said Apple was working on an M3 update for the 13" MBP and 24" iMac. I don't anticipate we'll see those until early 2024
 
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So M2 across all chips looks like roughly 20% increase over the M1 and has been called a stop-gap. What are we thinking for M3? 20% again or will it be more power-efficiency focused? People seem to think the 3N process will deliver huge benefits over M1 > M2 but I'm more interested in raw power than battery.
 
likely it comes out roughly a year later…which is what people have been asking for (yearly updates) this whole time…
yeah, I think I'll check out the 15" in store.. and if I like it, maybe have sights on it for the M3 release in late 2024 - thats when I figure they will update it .
 
Nothing illegal about Apple's support policy. That's a battle the EU won't win.
But it could be made illegal. The EU won the USB connector war and is well on the way to winning the App Stores war.
 
Great! My M2 is on it way this week and I can't wait to see what it will be worth when I go to trade it in next year. Looks like my computers just like my phones are a "lease with option to buy" program. UGH.
 
My M2 macbook air gets 7 hours just web browsing at 30-40% brightness. What am I doing wrong?
 
It‘s likely a combination of a lot of things. I would suggest taking it into Apple and have a Genius check it out. Good luck! 🫶🏻
Thanks, but I already did and I've spent some time with them on the phone. They have no answers, was this way out of the box and has remained that way for 8 months. Same with a 2017 MBP and MBA - they used to last 10 hours, then suddenly one day only 4-5. I think there was malware on a refurbished computer I bought from Apple, because that's exactly when the problem started. Maybe it was in the hardware and spread throughout the network. Now I seem to be stuck with it.
 
Thanks, but I already did and I've spent some time with them on the phone. They have no answers, was this way out of the box and has remained that way for 8 months. Same with a 2017 MBP and MBA - they used to last 10 hours, then suddenly one day only 4-5. I think there was malware on a refurbished computer I bought from Apple, because that's exactly when the problem started. Maybe it was in the hardware and spread throughout the network. Now I seem to be stuck with it.
Sorry to hear that. Did you purchase that directly from Apple (going into an Apple Store or ordering from Apple.com)? I only ask because I’ve had battery issues on one Apple product that I ordered from Amazon… 😣
 
Thanks, but I already did and I've spent some time with them on the phone. They have no answers, was this way out of the box and has remained that way for 8 months. Same with a 2017 MBP and MBA - they used to last 10 hours, then suddenly one day only 4-5. I think there was malware on a refurbished computer I bought from Apple, because that's exactly when the problem started. Maybe it was in the hardware and spread throughout the network. Now I seem to be stuck with it.

I very much doubt that Apple themselves would ship a refurbished device with malware installed. It would come with the disk erased and all firmware restored to its factory new state.
 
I would doubt that too, but what other explanation is there? The battery on the refurbished computer only lasted 4-5 hours the first day. One would think they test the battery life before shipping it out, right? A few days later, someone else's 2017 MBA on the same network goes from 9-10 hour battery life to 4-5 and slows down (and it's been that way since). I sent the refurbished computer back, but the problem on her computer remained. Then when I bought the new MBP a few months later, same problem. Every new device we get has crap battery life, including iphones. We have 3 iPhone SE 2s and 1 iPhone SE 3, and they all last 4-5 hours max with just web browsing, texting, etc. even without video. It has to be something on our network, and the problem started when I got that refurbished mac from Apple.

I read that malware can be put into the hardware somehow and thus restoring it to its factory state would have no effect on it. I have no idea, but what I'm sure of is that it all started when I got that refurbished mac. Whoever tested it before shipping didn't even notice that the battery life was only 4-5 hours, so I don't know if I have any confidence they could detect some kind of stealth malware hidden in the laptop.
 
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