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mode11

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I think the problem is that the kind of basic tasks you're talking about can be handled by an iPad Air, or an older iPad.

The bone of contention is particularly around the iPad Pro, which is very expensive and has ridiculously advanced technology. Yet because of the limitations of iPadOS - which we now know aren't going to change with iPadOS 18 - it's abilities go underutilised. Many people are just disappointed by the wasted potential.
 
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transpo1

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Maybe in your workplace. Every workplace is different.

One of the department heads at my workplace used to use his desktop Mac to create presentations, but then present the presentations in meetings on his iPad. Thousands of employees in that workplace, and hundreds of employees in that department alone.
Agreed— every workplace is different. 😉 The company I used to work for had 400k employees at the time, so they worked a bit differently.
 

iPadified

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I think the problem is that the kind of basic tasks you're talking about can be handled by an iPad Air, or an older iPad.

The bone of contention is particularly around the iPad Pro, which is very expensive and has ridiculously advanced technology. Yet because of the limitations of iPadOS - which we now know aren't going to change with iPadOS 18 - it's abilities go underutilised. Many people are just disappointed by the wasted potential.
I would say that in many real world cases where touch is preferred, a large performance headroom is necessary as latency during human and some machine interactions is not acceptable or will be perceived as very stressful or even being a hazard risk. I changed my 2015 iPad Pro when it started to lag because I could not withstand having 100+ student looking at lagging during lecturing. It also disrupted my lecturing flow because I got distracted.

A little bit too much performance has never hurt anyone and will only increase the longevity of the device.

I think that many people in the tech sphere are just envious/angry/frustrated of top notch and modern hardware running a software and OS that are designed for other usage scenarios than theirs.
 
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mode11

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What iPad do you use now? I also had a 1st gen iPad Pro 12.9, and found the 3rd gen to be a substantial improvement all round. Even 6 years later though, it still feels pretty snappy to me.

Not sure what you mean about the notch; iPads don't have one. Their SoCs are generally shared with low end MacBooks and don't get updated that often, so Mac users won't be especially envious.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Desk is so 1950s. Neither comfortable nor ergonomical, nor portable for me. Nothing is cheating, I can run my tests on iPad Pro, easily connect to multiple devices as needed. Heck by your logic a desktop or mac book is cheating if I connect to cloud servers. Every device has a place in the workflow, all make me money. I couldn’t care less what OS is running, as long as I get my work done in comfort, and get paid.

That’s such a generalisation to suggests desks are outdated when millions of people work at them every working day worldwide. Theres no correct method of working and all jobs have different methods and ways of working, but your example seems to somehow suggest it’s superior to those who have to use laptops and desktops. I have the freedom to sit in the park in my laptop should I ever wish to do so, but I also use 2 additional monitors on a desk as I’m a mechanical engineer, operating CAD and FEA software. Sure I can sit by the side of a test rig or wind tunnel with my laptop punching in data, but I still have a need for a desk.

Every job is different, and there is no superior way of working. Not everybody could do their job on an iPad Pro either and some jobs require a high level of performance from hardware. Just food for thought.
 
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kc9hzn

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What iPad do you use now? I also had a 1st gen iPad Pro 12.9, and found the 3rd gen to be a substantial improvement all round. Even 6 years later though, it still feels pretty snappy to me.

Not sure what you mean about the notch; iPads don't have one. Their SoCs are generally shared with low end MacBooks and don't get updated that often, so Mac users won't be especially envious.
It threw me for a bit of a loop, too, but I’m pretty sure the commenter meant “top notch”, as in “highest quality”.
 
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mode11

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It threw me for a bit of a loop, too, but I’m pretty sure the commenter meant “top notch”, as in “highest quality”.

Yeah, that would make more sense! A saw the comment about people getting angry about a notch at the top, and jumped the gun.
 

TechnoMonk

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That’s such a generalisation to suggests desks are outdated when millions of people work at them every working day worldwide. Theres no correct method of working and all jobs have different methods and ways of working, but your example seems to somehow suggest it’s superior to those who have to use laptops and desktops. I have the freedom to sit in the park in my laptop should I ever wish to do so, but I also use 2 additional monitors on a desk as I’m a mechanical engineer, operating CAD and FEA software. Sure I can sit by the side of a test rig or wind tunnel with my laptop punching in data, but I still have a need for a desk.

Every job is different, and there is no superior way of working. Not everybody could do their job on an iPad Pro either and some jobs require a high level of performance from hardware. Just food for thought.
That was my point to the poster who said desk is the way to work. It isn’t, we all can agree every need is different. I didn’t generalize, I was replying with in the context.
 

mode11

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The iPad can certainly replace a clipboard or notepad. It's larger screen is also more convenient than a smartphone for many activities. It just struggles to replace a computer.
 

kc9hzn

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The iPad can certainly replace a clipboard or notepad. It's larger screen is also more convenient than a smartphone for many activities. It just struggles to replace a computer.
I’d qualify that statement further to “struggles to replace a computer for specific tasks and workflows”. Some workflows, it works pretty well for, some it struggles. If you can work within the confines of iPadOS (give me a remote desktop connection, and I definitely can*), the iPad is great. If not, then buy a MacBook Air instead of the iPad Pro.

* Bit of a non-starter for me not to have a remote connection to a desktop, since I’m a software developer. But, as a thick client (that also gives me my email, task manager [OmniFocus, for me], and a whole host of other productivity apps, in addition to the remote desktop connection), iPad would work wonderfully for me.
 

mode11

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It was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment. I love the iPad for certain things - I use mine every day. I certainly don't see it as the future of computing, as some people seem to, but it's obviously no skin off my nose if people find productive uses for them.
 
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