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It's not that difficult to leave the Apple ecosystem. I've done it and I was deeply entrenched.
for me, the difficulty lies within the family. There's five of us. No real interest in juggling parental controls on two OS's. I suppose I could jump ship and let my wife sort it all out lol. Dunno how much sense that makes ultimately.
 
Apple may come at the approach completely different that we're not thinking about.:rolleyes:
Imagine and iPhone 14 with no bezels on one side and that one side of the device has a magnetic strip and you buy a secondary add-on screen/battery and it snaps on the side of the iPhone and becomes part of the foldable/screen-protector and it uses something like Sidecar to expand the display.
 
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I tried the ipad mini, and it just didn't see enough usage cases for me, probably because it was a second device i had to bring with me, where my phone was ALWAYS with me anyway. This basically solves that problem because its *almost* a folded ipad mini with an iphone up front. I could see myself using the front 75% of the time and then using it unfolded for watching videos, maybe even multi tasking some.

I think there's a lot of potential value here and something that, if polished just a bit more, could really be the first real disruption to smartphones since the iphone.

For my use, I'd need to see how a case fits into the equation too. I cant see myself rocking $1800 in my pocket with no level of protection, especially since I tend to keep my devices 4-5 years.
I use my Pixel Fold about 60/40 to 70/30 outer to inner screen, depending on the day. I don't use a case on my foldables. Out of the Z Fold 3 & 4, the Flip 4 (which sucks) and my Pixel Fold, I've only ever dropped one once and that was when I first got my Z Fold 3. They are really easy to hold in your hand and I suppose the price factor makes one a tad more careful, which doesn't hurt. I only have a cover screen protector and a DBrand skin for traction and to prevent scratches. Besides, that is what insurance and backup phones are for anyway. 🙂
 
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For me it just doesn't make sense, but for others I could see it.
When I'm personally out and about I don't want to carry such a big device nor do I need to as I'm busy with other things and use my phone only when I need to. That is why I prefer the mini.
When I'm home I'd much rather just use an iPad. So again for me I'd rather have a $700 iPhone and a $800 iPad (currently prefer the 11" Pro) than a $1800 device (and we all know Apple's would be much more) that doesn't do small things as well as the iPhone and bigger things as well as an iPad.
 
Weight: 10oz (284g)

The weight of phones you hold in your hand all the time is becoming foolishly heavy.

iPhone 5s was 3.92oz
iPhone 7 was 4.87
iPhone 12-mini is 4.76oz
iPhone 14 Pro is 6.07oz
iPhone 14 Pro Max is 8.47oz

My iPad Air 4th gen is 16.16oz, which makes sense as it is 11' in size, lasts all day, etc.

Yes they are bigger, but I talk to people, and no-one carries these phones any more, they leave them in their backpacks, or in the car. The SE and Mini phones are the most popular in the consumer category for anyone who really uses their phone, and pays attention to weight.

Maybe about as heavy as iPhone pro max plus an Otter case? Or an iPhone and an apple’s magnetic battery or battery case.

I would be concerned more about thickness, and be okay with the weight if it gave me more battery life.

For me, I wouldn’t mind trying one but I feel I would be a bit reluctant to pay the price unless it’s from apple, mainly because I feel that apple usually does things mostly right (as oppose to releasing something to see what sticks to the wall).
 
I use my Pixel Fold about 60/40 to 70/30 outer to inner screen, depending on the day. I don't use a case on my foldables. Out of the Z Fold 3 & 4, the Flip 4 (which sucks) and my Pixel Fold, I've only ever dropped one once and that was when I first got my Z Fold 3. I only have a cover screen protector and a DBrand skin for traction and to prevent scratches. Besides, that is what insurance and backup phones are for anyway. 🙂
I have had my iphone 11 for almost four years. It would be toast without a case. The number of times it has fallen out of my pocket getting in/out of the car is enough for me to know caseless doesn't work for me. I'd far prefer a basic case than the hassle and additional cost of insurance.
 
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I have had my iphone 11 for almost four years. It would be toast without a case. The number of times it has fallen out of my pocket getting in/out of the car is enough for me to know caseless doesn't work for me. I'd far prefer a basic case than the hassle and additional cost of insurance.
The Google case is pretty good, but there are also plenty of options on Amazon.
 
Apple may come at the approach completely different that we're not thinking about.:rolleyes:
Imagine and iPhone 14 with no bezels on one side and that one side of the device has a magnetic strip and you buy a secondary add-on screen/battery and it snaps on the side of the iPhone and becomes part of the foldable/screen-protector and it uses something like Sidecar to expand the display.
Having a hard time imagining no interruptions in the display though.
 
For me foldable phones are bulky, have that crease that gets worse with use and the silly square screen, not to mention the price. You mentioned watching content in the video but surely a wide screen film is going to be floating in the middle and end up being exactly the same size as it would be on a normal screen but with black bars on top and bottom. For reading emails great but for games or most content it seems a waste of time to me. Something needs to change radically for these to catch on (apart from the price!) maybe a stretchy or scroll phone
 
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It bugs me that the radius of the corners on the inner screen doesn’t match the body, and the top and bottom bezels are bigger than the sides. You’d think they’d try to hide it by using a black wallpaper at least lol

Anyone know what the repairability of foldables is like? My ex had one and it felt plasticky, could you even replace the inner screen? Or do they just give you a refurbished one or something?

iPhone repair seems pretty easy and many phones have a second or third life on the same frame, whereas these look disposable
 
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You mentioned watching content in the video but surely a wide screen film is going to be floating in the middle and end up being exactly the same size as it would be on a normal screen but with black bars on top and bottom.
Watching some videos of how this is handled seems like watching content DOES have the bars, but the actual content plays much larger than just what you'd have on a normal screen. Obviously, that may still not meet your wants, which is fair, but it doesn't seem as pointless as you imply.
 
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It bugs me that the radius of the screen corners doesn’t match the body, and the top and bottom bezels are bigger than the sides. You’d think they’d try to hide it by using a black wallpaper at least lol
I was actually surprised that they didnt keep the camera in the bezel on the front. The hole punch cutout seemed an odd choice for a phone with such a large bezel. Of course, I have no idea what the inner working behind the bezel look like. Maybe there just wasn't room.
 
With their high prices, low user appeal, and technical problems. I think the foldable phones will end up just like the curved phones.
 
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For me foldable phones are bulky, have that crease that gets worse with use and the silly square screen, not to mention the price. You mentioned watching content in the video but surely a wide screen film is going to be floating in the middle and end up being exactly the same size as it would be on a normal screen but with black bars on top and bottom. For reading emails great but for games or most content it seems a waste of time to me. Something needs to change radically for these to catch on (apart from the price!) maybe a stretchy or scroll phone
The PF is only a bit heavier than a 14 Pro Max (but remember, it's two devices in one) and only slightly thicker than a 14PM when folded. It's actually the same thickness as a 14 Pro Max with a slim case on it. The screens are not square, they are rounded rectangles, much like another company I know. The crease has never "gotten worse with use" either. I mean, maybe if you use it for a two to three years, but I trade my phones in annually. The price isn't bad when you consider you are getting a high end phone and mini tablet in one portable device. Honestly, have you ever owned a foldable, or even spent a little time with one in real life? I've owned 4 now.
 
Weight: 10oz (284g)

The weight of phones you hold in your hand all the time is becoming foolishly heavy.

iPhone 5s was 3.92oz
iPhone 7 was 4.87
iPhone 12-mini is 4.76oz
iPhone 14 Pro is 6.07oz
iPhone 14 Pro Max is 8.47oz

My iPad Air 4th gen is 16.16oz, which makes sense as it is 11' in size, lasts all day, etc.

Yes they are bigger, but I talk to people, and no-one carries these phones any more, they leave them in their backpacks, or in the car. The SE and Mini phones are the most popular in the consumer category for anyone who really uses their phone, and pays attention to weight.

If the Mini phones wee the most popular, they wouldn't be discontinuing without providing an alternative. They are the least popular phones in the lineup. I like the idea of a small phone, and I like people having options, but let's not be absurd. The most popular phones are bigger phones.
 
I was always under the impression that people purchased Google Pixel products because they needed an inexpensive alternative. I don't see the average Google phone demographic embracing this price point.
 
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I still don’t get foldable. To me it’s another example of a solution in search of a problem. Fortunately Apple will only produce a foldable IF they see a good market for it. I don’t see any market except for the novelty market.

And here in the midwest I haven’t seen a single foldable in the wild yet, even on an airline flight.
 
I still don’t get foldable. To me it’s another example of a solution in search of a problem. Fortunately Apple will only produce a foldable IF they see a good market for it. I don’t see any market except for the novelty market.
I will save you the time of reading my entire original post:

***For those of you who are about to say "it's a solution in search of a problem" or "I don't get the appeal of foldables", it is simple really. I was using an iPhone and an iPad Mini daily, and I wanted two devices in one highly portable device. It's not rocket science***
 
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