Plus. Let’s be real here the $6,000 base Mac Pro was a joke. Especially when it launched and had a very bad GPU and only 256GB of SSD. Which is why I got the 2019 i9 iMac instead.
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Hands-On With the M2 Ultra Mac Studio
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working live events, I've had legal teams ask to change video edits mere minutes before the production goes live. Yes, some of us need a few minutes quicker export times, especially when Apple hardware is mandatory throughout the entire pipeline and other hardware is not an option.
I do. These tests during reviews are usually 5 minute projects. And you save a minute or so. Scale that up to my projects that are on average 8 hours. Max I had was 17 hour video. That time save scales to HOURS for me.
What was the source video? I notice a huge difference in pro res vs mp4 file captured in a camera. Using m1max studio.
A few minutes here a few minutes there. Over the course of a year, you're looking at days worth of time. For someone who does heavy video encoding, those minutes are worth a lot of $$$.
It's not wise to make the assumption: I don't need this so no one else needs it either.
I know that I don't need the Gen 2 Studio, but for someone who requires more computing power...
All joking apart, if the 3nm chips improve power/performance and don't need such a big cooler...
Hrmm, unspecified Display Port and HDMI port...
Mac Studio - Technical Specifications - Apple
Mac Studio - Technical Specifications
View all the technical specifications for Mac Studio with the M4 Max or M3 Ultra chip.www.apple.com
...why no specific information for such a high-priced device?!
I guess it goes without saying that no tests could be performed using 8K HDR footage seeing how Apple has yet to provide this device with an 8K 60P XDR monitor. Oofah.
Cart before the horse? Kindly get it in gear, Tim.
Works fine with my 8K TV - HDR @ 60hz.
Now, has anyone tried running Unity on this thing? No matter what version I try - Intel or As - multiple projects, multiple targets, it crashes within a minute of interacting with the editor. Haven’t tried an empty project yet, that’s next.
It all makes a lot more sense if people stop saying "2023 Mac Pro" and call it what it is: "2023 Mac Studio with $3000 PCIe slots".
They’ll call this “the reddit model” from now on.
I don’t know I’ve quit trying to guess at the market for this computer. We know it’s not me.
Can’t.
I would think the kind of people spending money on this would know what they want. Apple thinks they really want PCIe slots. Or maybe with that much money the details don’t matter. They just made such a clear cut comparison with the Mac Studio I just don’t understand it. One person has said it makes total sense to them and they’re buying a ton of them. I guess Apple knows what it’s doing here.
So basically "I'm mad that Apple sold an expensive machine that doesn't meet my needs, along with a cheaper machine that does"?
It tells you everything you need to know about the human condition that this situation makes so many people so angry...
Apple wants to kill the Mac Pro. It doesn’t make sense any other way I can think it out.
Actually the Mac Pro even in 2019 had about a $2-3k up charge. The base 2019 Mac Pro was not good compared to the maxed out 2019 i9 iMac. And that maxed out was still cheaper than the Mac Pro base. So to compete well, you were looking at $8,000 or so for the Mac Pro at launch.
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I have to assume the same: Apple knows what it is doing. Again, it would have been far easier to simply discontinue Mac Pro in a PR release or quick verbal statement... perhaps as they rolled out M2 Studio as the new king of this hill.
Remember there were buyers for the $1X,000 Apple Watch Edition too... the $1,000 monitor stand, the $700 wheels, the $20 handkerchief, socks, etc. They didn't make that stuff to not sell any of it. They generally know they have buyers. And the closer you get to their bread & butter products, the more likely they have some confidence that whatever they package will sell.
I'm convinced Apple could box ANYTHING, price it (too) high and there will be buyers for it. Anything. Dirt, poop, air, water, pop tarts, shoehorns, salsa, etc.
Furthermore, I'm convinced if they box something like air, a segment of those buyers would eventually smother by running out of Apple air and refusing to breathe inferior, non-Apple air.
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Well, they did release the Mac Studio Pro in a bigger case, so not that much of a stretch.
No reason to make it too complicated and all about conspiracy theories: the TSMC roadmap has nothing to do with Apple or their marketing. The 2nm and 1nm die shrink is on the way. It remains to be seen what real life advantages those will bring, but that’s what tests are for.
The M1 Ultra 8TB I have consistently tests at ~5,500 in both read and write.
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No conspiracy theories. At 2nm or perhaps 1nm or somewhere thereabouts, laws of physics will end whole number steps (as it is now, 5nm is not actually 5nm and 3nm will not actually be 3nm, but the game is on to measure things differently than reality and is not easily altered now). So in the little room- real or spun- that will be left, TSMC or their partners will jump to Angstroms or something else to create a lot of whole numbers to resume this "meaningful leap" game again.
Yes, then we'll be working in fractions of whole numbers but by a simple word change, the whole numbers thing works again for some number of years. Yes, the benchmark gains won't be as tangibly dramatic as now but when measured against the prior "leap" (of this fraction of a whole) they will still show as significant percentage gains in generation vs. generation (at this measuring stick level).
And then we'll have 10 or 20 years before we run out of that split hair gauge and if we ever manage to reach some absolute (actual) minimum, TSMC and/or their partners will just move on to some other "very important" measure of computing power gains and then move us consumers to shift to viewing that new measure as some gauge of ever-improving computers.
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I understand that the 3nm name does not actually stand for the actual die shrink size. However, they do get smaller and bring performance/power efficiency gains. So, at the end of the day, it does get better. Isn’t it the main goal here?
It’s easy to get huge improvements when the starting point wasn’t great. M1 GPU really wasn’t that good. Good enough for general use, not anywhere near what professionals who need GPU power for the workflows need, especially at that price. M2 isn’t still inadequate in that sense at its price point, and it’s just insane that in the Mac Pro one can’t install external GPUs.
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Yes, and I basically said nothing different… just that the measure will likely soon change… to keep the (marketing) party going.