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baldspur

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Odd, is it a 1amp Apple charger like the iPhone comes with or a 2amp Apple charger like comes with (some?) iPads? And is it a Apple (or trustworthy brand like amazon basics or anker) lightning cable? Maybe those things make a difference. It shouldn’t be related to the router.
Hi- thanks for getting back to me. Yes it’s an official apple charger. In fact everything is all Apple which makes it even stranger!!
 

mrklaw

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Any updates with ipad pro 2018 USB-C? Does it have less issues with power? Does it work with more readily available ethernet adapters (either USB-C ones or via a USB-A converter)?
 

ecschwarz

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Any updates with ipad pro 2018 USB-C? Does it have less issues with power? Does it work with more readily available ethernet adapters (either USB-C ones or via a USB-A converter)?

I've got one at work and just got whatever the Belkin one is (USB-C to Ethernet Adapter, Model F2CU040) and haven't had any power issues with that. I've also used it with the older Belkin one (the one that doesn't require power on the older iPads with the USB Camera Kit) and a USB-C-to-A adapter and it's been fine, too.

I'll try to snag an Anker gigabit Ethernet adapter (USB A) from our inventory and give it a try, but I think the USB-C spec provides more power for accessories than Lightning does.
 

TW100

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I got a Belkin device that separates out the lightning into a lightning + ethernet. You have to have the Belkin app installed, but it’s seamless. The ethernet is recognized as soon as it is plugged in. I have 9.7 iPad Pro.

The only issue I have is with speed. The upload speed is about the same with both the ethernet and wi-fi - no gain with ethernet. However, Speedtest says my download is significantly less with ethernet, about 2/3’s LESS. I don’t know how to fix this.

The reason why I got the device was to help stabilize my video on important Zoom meetings. So that there would be no pixelizing and would be better quality. But now I’m concerned that this has not helped??
 

AutomaticApple

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The only issue I have is with speed. The upload speed is about the same with both the ethernet and wi-fi - no gain with ethernet. However, Speedtest says my download is significantly less with ethernet, about 2/3’s LESS. I don’t know how to fix this.
iOS Speedtest bug?
 

TW100

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I used fast.com and got a similar result as Speedtest. And I just tried two speed check apps, and both came up with same as Speedtest And Fast.com.
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TW100

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Here is with just wi-fi. The download is significantly higher, but losing a slight bit of stability. The upload is actually showing as better - I do get about 33% more Mbps, and the stability is a bit higher, so this should improve my streaming video. But I don’t understand the disparity on the download.

(Also, Spectrum is ripping me off a bit with these speeds and what I’m paying, so that’s a whole other issue.)

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nicho

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But I don’t understand the disparity on the download.

Your iPad is only capable of USB2 speeds. This means it is only connecting at 100mbit speeds, slower than your wifi.

Test it by going into settings and selecting "Ethernet". My USB C hub on a 2020 iPP shows "USB 10/100/1000 LAN".
 
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balzmcfearson

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Does the iPad Pro also need power to reach gigabit speeds?

I have a usbc to Ethernet dongle on my iPad pro and it caps both upload and download at 100 mb. This is with a ugreen 10/100/1000Mbps adapter.
 

Apple_Robert

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Does the iPad Pro also need power to reach gigabit speeds?

I have a usbc to Ethernet dongle on my iPad pro and it caps both upload and download at 100 mb. This is with a ugreen 10/100/1000Mbps adapter.
It doesn't need to be connected to power. I have 1GB internet and I just got 907 / 844 when I connected my 2020 iPad Pro to Ethernet. I have a Belkin Ethernet - USB-C.
 
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Digitalguy

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gigabit with no issues with a usb c hub... (lightning to ethernet instead caps at 300mb/s, which is less than Wifi...)
 
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Donfor39

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gigabit with no issues with a usb c hub... (lightning to ethernet instead caps at 300mb/s, which is less than Wifi...)

Excellent I had a previous Thunderbolt to Ethernet for AirPort Extreme-13" MacBook Pro.
Is Lightning to Ethernet a new Adaptor or purchased with Cable included.
Hooping to give this a try 11" Pro.
thanks
 

Digitalguy

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Excellent I had a previous Thunderbolt to Ethernet for AirPort Extreme-13" MacBook Pro.
Is Lightning to Ethernet a new Adaptor or purchased with Cable included.
Hooping to give this a try 11" Pro.
thanks
lightening to etherner was aslo tested via a USB hub, but USB A... It's a usb 3.0 hub, with an iPad pro with lightning at USB 3.0 speed and a USB 3.0 CCK but ethernet still runs at USB 2.0 speeds (technically 480mbits/s, in reality only around 300).
 
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DaviddesJ

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On my iPad Pro I get around 300 Mbit/s with Wifi only and around 900 Mbit/s with Ethernet only. But I only get 300 Mbit/s with the Ethernet connected if Wifi is on. It seems pretty clear that it's prioritizing Wifi over Ethernet. :-(
 

Digitalguy

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On my iPad Pro I get around 300 Mbit/s with Wifi only and around 900 Mbit/s with Ethernet only. But I only get 300 Mbit/s with the Ethernet connected if Wifi is on. It seems pretty clear that it's prioritizing Wifi over Ethernet. :-(
Good point about disabling wifi, I did another test with wifi disabled and the USB 3.0 lightning adapter and got 600down and 700up which is much closer to gigabit speed or around 900-950...
On wifi all iPads pro have the same speed, regardless of generation (since I have a wifi 5 router anyway...), that is between 300 and 500 depending on when and where I test...
 

Branaghan

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I've been using the ethernet adapters mentioned in this thread in my iPAD Pro 10.5, however I noticed at least ever since the last OS updates this combo (which is not gigabit) doesn't work anymore:


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The 1st one mentioned by this post (see picture above). The problem here is that you plug into the lightning port and iPAD-Os fails to conect to the internet. So if your internal IP range is for example 192.168.15.X and your modem is accessible from 192.168.15.1 (internal DNS) this adapter instead does this:

169.168.15.X

I forgot what was the wrong IP he assigns to my iPAD, all I can say it's not the one he should. For example, if this was working properly he should have assigned this random IP:

192.168.15.40

The 169.XXXXX that appears there can't connect to the internet, of course.

So in order for the adapter to work I have to manually inform (just once, there's no need to do this again) what is going to be the random IP:

192.168.15.40
255.255.255.0
192.168.15.1

Otherwise no internet access.

This problem never happens with the gigabit combo informed, using these adapters:

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Also, even when the 1st combo works if you barely move the iPAD (for s.h.i.t.t.y. apps that insist in using portrait mode instead of landscape, regardless of your device's screen orientation) you get disconnections. So I advise against any investment in the 1st combo, especially because the 2nd one can get max DL/UL speeds from your internet, including INTERNAL SPEEDS from your network.

With new Apple devices/technologies that allow the use of ethernet adapters that if I am not mistaken are gigabit and don't require a power source to work, so it's just plug and use, I see no point in using all this outdated stuff.

Even the 2nd combo is clunky and discouraging to use after a while. Not to mention if the idea is to cut EMF radiation from wi-fi always turned on 24/7, you are still receiving another form of EMF pollution, this time from the electrical field generated by the old gigabit adapters.

That's because when the 2nd combo is plugged you are also recharging your battery. One more reason to ditch the old and opt for the new.

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One more reason to not pay for the 1st combo is the fact the Apple's adapter will not last for long if you keep moving around:


The cable can be easily broken. Another suggestion I'll make is to not buy round ethernet cables.

Instead opt for a FLAT one:


This will allow for moving around the cables and not put too much weight and pressure over the adapters. I bought recently a CAT-8 cable that looked like this:

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EugW

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I've been using the ethernet adapters mentioned in this thread in my iPAD Pro 10.5, however I noticed at least ever since the last OS updates this combo (which is not gigabit) doesn't work anymore:
I didn't understand your whole post. However, my iPad Pro 10.5 with iPadOS 14.5 works fine with Apple's Camera Adapter and Apple's USB Ethernet adapter. It's not gigabit though, so it maxes out at about 95 Mbps, and external power is required. It sounds like you have a similar experience.

BTW, in general flat cables are not recommended, because usually they sacrifice quality for form factor, although YMMV.
 

Branaghan

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I didn't understand your whole post. However, my iPad Pro 10.5 with iPadOS 14.5 works fine with Apple's Camera Adapter and Apple's USB Ethernet adapter. It's not gigabit though, so it maxes out at about 95 Mbps, and external power is required. It sounds like you have a similar experience.

BTW, in general flat cables are not recommended, because usually they sacrifice quality for form factor, although YMMV.
The max speeds you get from non-gigabit adapters are 95 Mbps and within your internal network limited to 12 MB/s. 12 MB/s is painfully slow.

I have 300/150 Mbps broadband internet, and all speedtests using the gigabit ethernet adapters reach that. In a few tests I got over 100 MB/s by sendind a file between my PC and this iPAD.

So in terms of speed the BELKIN F4U047BT ethernet adapter

+ this one from Apple:

Are both awful. The issue I explained before (not being able to assign an automatic IP) was about these two.

Also note this BELKIN non-gigabit ethernet adapter + the Lightning to USB 2.0 Camera Adapter (from Apple) combo don't require any external power. That's right, it's just plug and use in my IPP 10.5.

That's the only advantage it can offer.

If you want gigabit speeds with these old devices you need to use another combo:


The "Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter" and the Anker ethernet adapter:

Not only that, you'll need to plug both into an external power.

It's not worth the hassle if you are using the new (gigabit) ethernet adapter with the new iPADs, if I am not mistaken you only need this USB-C and no external power is required.


Just plug and start using.

My point about flat ethernet cables was that the round ones are very thick and put too much pressure over fragile adapters that tear much easily if you keep moving these cables all the time. Within a few years you'll need to buy another Apple adapter, if (of course) the one you are using is cheap in terms of being too thin.

But that can happen with any cable, of course. I had to replace my DS4 (joystick) USB one, too, after a few years.

With flat cables the weight is reduced, and so is the impact over these ethernet adapters.
 
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Joho2078

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The max speeds you get from non-gigabit adapters are 95 Mbps and within your internal network limited to 12 MB/s. 12 MB/s is painfully slow.

I have 300/150 Mbps broadband internet, and all speedtests using the gigabit ethernet adapters reach that. In a few tests I got over 100 MB/s by sendind a file between my PC and this iPAD.

So in terms of speed the BELKIN F4U047BT ethernet adapter

+ this one from Apple:

Are both awful. The issue I explained before (not being able to assign an automatic IP) was about these two.

Also note this BELKIN non-gigabit ethernet adapter + the Lightning to USB 2.0 Camera Adapter (from Apple) combo don't require any external power. That's right, it's just plug and use in my IPP 10.5.

That's the only advantage it can offer.

If you want gigabit speeds with these old devices you need to use another combo:


The "Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter" and the Anker ethernet adapter:

Not only that, you'll need to plug both into an external power.

It's not worth the hassle if you are using the new (gigabit) ethernet adapter with the new iPADs, if I am not mistaken you only need this USB-C and no external power is required.


Just plug and start using.

My point about flat ethernet cables was that the round ones are very thick and put too much pressure over fragile adapters that tear much easily if you keep moving these cables all the time. Within a few years you'll need to buy another Apple adapter, if (of course) the one you are using is cheap in terms of being too thin.

But that can happen with any cable, of course. I had to replace my DS4 (joystick) USB one, too, after a few years.

With flat cables the weight is reduced, and so is the impact over these ethernet adapters.

So by reading this thread there’s no hope that the new iPads can share internet to a computer via thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter?
 
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ecschwarz

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So in terms of speed the BELKIN F4U047BT ethernet adapter

+ this one from Apple:

Are both awful. The issue I explained before (not being able to assign an automatic IP) was about these two.

Also note this BELKIN non-gigabit ethernet adapter + the Lightning to USB 2.0 Camera Adapter (from Apple) combo don't require any external power. That's right, it's just plug and use in my IPP 10.5.

[...]

It's not worth the hassle if you are using the new (gigabit) ethernet adapter with the new iPADs, if I am not mistaken you only need this USB-C and no external power is required.

I think the IP assignment issues are something related to your network, rather than the adapter (keep in mind each adapter that you use is treated as a separate interface with its own settings on the iPad, so if you set a static IP on one, it won't carry over to the other, and if you set DHCP on one, it won't carry over to the other).

You may have gotten a bad Lightning to USB Camera Adapter or the Belkin interface, as those there are numerous examples of those in my toolkit at work that have been in place for years (typically for testing ports and not having to lug anything around but an iPhone, Lightning-USB adapter, ethernet interface, and an ethernet cable). I've used them across multiple iPhones (SE->8 Plus->11->12 mini) and iPads (Air 2, 1st-gen 12.9" Pro, 5th gen, 7th gen), too.

We've got a few of these in our fleet, too, and they work as expected (basically replacing the separate components with one unit): https://www.amazon.com/Lighting-Eth...tning+to+ethernet+enbia&qid=1620606013&sr=8-2

Obviously, if you have an iOS device with Lightning that can support USB 3 signals, then a gigabit ethernet adapter+extra power might be better in some applications.

My main work iPad is now a 2018 12.9" Pro with USB-C, and any old USB-C ethernet adapter from our inventory has worked. I've also used a USB-C->USB-A adapter with the 100Mbps Belkin one in a pinch, too.

I've always viewed ethernet over Lightning as a temporary solution more than anything long term (like I said, testing ports, locations that may not have Wi-Fi, configuring things), but anything permanent would probably make more sense in investing in decent Wi-Fi hardware and properly configuring it.
 

Joho2078

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I think the IP assignment issues are something related to your network, rather than the adapter (keep in mind each adapter that you use is treated as a separate interface with its own settings on the iPad, so if you set a static IP on one, it won't carry over to the other, and if you set DHCP on one, it won't carry over to the other).

You may have gotten a bad Lightning to USB Camera Adapter or the Belkin interface, as those there are numerous examples of those in my toolkit at work that have been in place for years (typically for testing ports and not having to lug anything around but an iPhone, Lightning-USB adapter, ethernet interface, and an ethernet cable). I've used them across multiple iPhones (SE->8 Plus->11->12 mini) and iPads (Air 2, 1st-gen 12.9" Pro, 5th gen, 7th gen), too.

Obviously, if you have an iOS device with Lightning that can support USB 3 signals, then a gigabit ethernet adapter+extra power might be better in some applications.

My main work iPad is now a 2018 12.9" Pro with USB-C, and any old USB-C ethernet adapter from our inventory has worked. I've also used a USB-C->USB-A adapter with the 100Mbps Belkin one in a pinch, too.

I've always viewed ethernet over Lightning as a temporary solution more than anything long term (like I said, testing ports, locations that may not have Wi-Fi, configuring things), but anything permanent would probably make more sense in investing in decent Wi-Fi hardware and properly configuring it.

Could you tell me what adapters I need to bridge my iPhone/android with my Lenovo pc and my mid 2009 El Capitan IMac? And how to set it up exactly ? Please. I’ve read about it via links others have posted but I’m still kind of lost.
 

ecschwarz

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Could you tell me what adapters I need to bridge my iPhone/android with my Lenovo pc and my mid 2009 El Capitan IMac? And how to set it up exactly ? Please. I’ve read about it via links others have posted but I’m still kind of lost.
Are you wanting to share your phone's internet connection with your computers? If so, that would typically just require you to turn on Personal Hotspot and either connect with Wi-Fi or a USB-A-to-Lightning adapter (on your iMac, the iPhone will appear as another interface on System Preferences > Network). It's been awhile since I've done it tethered with Windows, and Android tends to vary based on model/version.

This thread is more about using a wired ethernet connection and using the iPad (or iPhone) as a client device instead of using Wi-Fi (or cellular). This would be no different than connecting your iMac via ethernet to your router or a switch and then disabling Wi-Fi.

Additionally, certain networkable apps on iOS (or Android) could "see" your iMac or PC on the network. If you just have an ethernet cable between the various adapters and a computer, you could manually assign IP addresses to both, turn on File Sharing on the computer, and then access it via the Files app on the iPhone.
 

Branaghan

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Are there are any good 2.5 G ethernet adapters for the IPP 10.5 from 2017 or any of the newer iPADs?

How is the performance when using (if any of them can be plugged into it)? When I try with my 1G ethernet adapters I can get the max speeds sometimes, 100 MB/s. Last night I measured 75 MB/s.

Also, how is the performance over 5 Ghz wi-fi uploading/download a file? Of course even when it's in your own network wi-fi will inevitably be slower than using ethernet.

Note: at least this user had poor results:


What is not clear is if the iPADs can send/receive files at 200 MB/s or faster.
 

Digitalguy

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Are there are any good 2.5 G ethernet adapters for the IPP 10.5 from 2017 or any of the newer iPADs?

How is the performance when using (if any of them can be plugged into it)? When I try with my 1G ethernet adapters I can get the max speeds sometimes, 100 MB/s. Last night I measured 75 MB/s.

Also, how is the performance over 5 Ghz wi-fi uploading/download a file? Of course even when it's in your own network wi-fi will inevitably be slower than using ethernet.

Note: at least this user had poor results:


What is not clear is if the iPADs can send/receive files at 200 MB/s or faster.
My experience with the first and second gen iPad pro is that Ethernet is capped at USB 2.0 speeds and more specifically around 300Mb/s (around 40MB/s). I have used both USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 CCK (with a USB 3.0 to Ethernet adapter) and it does not change. I haven't used lightning to Ethernet but from what I have read it's the same speed...
On the contrary, even the 1st gen pro has a powerful implementation of Wifi 5, which caps it a 866 Mb/s theoretical and around 600 Mb/s real.... So wifi 5 is faster than Ethernet on lightning iPads...

USB C iPads can saturate the 1GB Ethernet connection (around 950 Mbs real)

I have a 10 GB/s fiber connection but I haven't any faster than 1 Gb/s USB C adapters to test if it goes any faster.
Concerning wifi, iPad pro 2020 has wifi 6, which is capped at 1200 Mb/s, probably around 1Gb real..
 
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