This happens because iPhone 7 Plus supports only USB2.0 speeds over the Lightning port while the iPad Pro 10,5” supports USB3.0, you can check this online. Anyway, I’m trying to do your same setup for my iPhone and iPad to avoid EMF radiation, can you tell me if the Belkin USB 2.0 Ethernet adapter can work without being powered with the Apple USB3 Camera Adapter instead of the slower USB2 one? I’d like to go with the USB3 so I can get gigabit speeds in the future. Thanks for your contribute.In the immortal words of Barry Burton from Resident Evil...
Just TAKE. A. LOOK. AT. THIS!
The setup: iOS 11.4.1, last version, in the iPhone 7 Plus (MN4M2BZ/A)
Using: the combo Anker adapter + USB 3 camera adapter from Apple. So we should get gigabit speeds, right?
You folks remember I said we could only get max 12 MB/s upload speeds inside our network, even with CAT-6 ethernet cables? And up to 100 MB/s if we use the Anker (instead of Belkin and any other adapter)?
Here's the thing:
- This iPhone with this iOS can't get more than double the speed. Which is very, very slow.
Proof:
The app used is nPlayer Plus.
Now look at the result if I use:
iOS 10.3.2 (I installed a tvOS profile to prevent updates)
iPAD Pro 10.5, 256 GB wifi+cel
Why this massive difference between the two devices? It can't be the iPhone's fault. My guess is this another proof iOS 11 suck big deal. And this is another reason I will never update my iPAD. I remember doing that in the IPP 9.7 (2016) and noticing these battery issues.
Note: if you are in a Windows/PC use this app to measure upload/download speeds. It's free (there are other good options, however they are paid):
https://codebox.net/pages/bitmeteros
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In the immortal words of Barry Burton from Resident Evil...
Just TAKE. A. LOOK. AT. THIS!
The setup: iOS 11.4.1, last version, in the iPhone 7 Plus (MN4M2BZ/A)
Using: the combo Anker adapter + USB 3 camera adapter from Apple. So we should get gigabit speeds, right?
You folks remember I said we could only get max 12 MB/s upload speeds inside our network, even with CAT-6 ethernet cables? And up to 100 MB/s if we use the Anker (instead of Belkin and any other adapter)?
Here's the thing:
- This iPhone with this iOS can't get more than double the speed. Which is very, very slow.
Proof:
The app used is nPlayer Plus.
Now look at the result if I use:
iOS 10.3.2 (I installed a tvOS profile to prevent updates)
iPAD Pro 10.5, 256 GB wifi+cel
Why this massive difference between the two devices? It can't be the iPhone's fault. My guess is this another proof iOS 11 suck big deal. And this is another reason I will never update my iPAD. I remember doing that in the IPP 9.7 (2016) and noticing these battery issues.
Note: if you are in a Windows/PC use this app to measure upload/download speeds. It's free (there are other good options, however they are paid):
https://codebox.net/pages/bitmeteros
This is all expected. All iPhones (even the X) only support USB 2.0 via the Lightning port. So even when using a gigabit Ethernet adapter, USB 2.0 is limited to 480Mbps. You still need duplexing, so transfer rate can be half i.e. 240Mbps or 30MB/s. Add in some overhead, and this corresponds to the 28.93MB/s peak shown in your test.
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All gigabit adapters need to be powered AFAIK. The only adapter I’ve found to work without power is Apple’s 100Mbps version.
The Belkin adapter doesn't need to be powered, period.
Even if you use it with the Apple USB 3.0 Camera adapter it will not need that.
Here's a link to it:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E9655LU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Oh, I didn't know that bit about iPhones... that is too bad, since with gigabit speeds we can reach 60 or even 100 MB/s, which is 5 to 8 times faster. It's impossible to transfer files (and do streaming) with speeds up to 12 MB/s inside your own network. You'll soon discover 1080p or higher resolutions (like 2160p, 4K) will suffer from this (especially if you don't live alone).
Even if you are simply dealing with 500 MB or 1, 2 GB files this makes a LOT of difference.
For example, once I record a 4K video with the iPAD Pro 10.5 camera I can easily transfer that to my PC, using the CAT-6 ethernet cable, the gigabit router and the proper adapters (Anker + USB 3.0). This would be painfully slow with the Belkin + the old ethernet adapter.
(However most of the time I use the Belkin + old adapter, it's easier that way).
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Then you got the wrong model...
This Google Drive link is from the one I bought:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MoyhRp5KNjwyhzlGlvGxG6Z-Qclv_3cp
This is the correct link for it: https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-Ethernet-Adapter-F4U047bt/dp/B00E9655LU
If possible I suggest that you return it.
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BTW, I found a thread with similar recommendations for Samsung/Galaxy Tab:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...laxy-Tab-S3/m-p/288790/highlight/false#M10504
I'll check this one if I get a Tab S4... was planning that since I used two IPPs 9.7 for studying until recently.
The whole benefit of the proper Belkin one, despite being 10/100 is that it doesn't require extra power. As far as I've seen, there are no others (including Apple's) that allow that.
Then you got the wrong model...
This Google Drive link is from the one I bought:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MoyhRp5KNjwyhzlGlvGxG6Z-Qclv_3cp
This is the correct link for it: https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-Ethernet-Adapter-F4U047bt/dp/B00E9655LU
If possible I suggest that you return it.
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BTW, I found a thread with similar recommendations for Samsung/Galaxy Tab:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...laxy-Tab-S3/m-p/288790/highlight/false#M10504
I'll check this one if I get a Tab S4... was planning that since I used two IPPs 9.7 for studying until recently.
Thank you for providing details of your adapter! It was extremely helpful!
My box says F4U047bt, but the the label on the adapter is F4U061.
My adapter has the belkin logo near the ethernet port, it seems the logo is on the center of your adapter.
I'm getting the one with the belkin logo on the center from eBay.
Will report back!
Thanks again Perene!
That's not true. You see, I bought the Apple Ethernet adapter, too. And it will only work if it's powered, meaning if you have the Apple Ethernet adapter you will also need the USB 3.0 Camera Adapter from Apple.
In this picture you are seeing the:
- Apple Ethernet Adapter
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_78313/shop/product/MC704LL/A/apple-usb-ethernet-adapter
And this one:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD821AM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter
Lightning to USB Camera Adapter
Now, what happens if we try to use ethernet:
Translation: "The attached accessory uses too much power, it won't work". Meaning you will not see "ethernet" in the iOS settings.
Now look what happens if I plug the Belking adapter... and the Lightning to USB Camera Adapter mentioned before:
Ethernet is now available. And no need to use the iPAD/iPhone charger and the USB 3.0 camera adapter.
Indeed, the Belkin is the only known adapter that doesn't need to be powered.
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That's not true. You see, I bought the Apple Ethernet adapter, too. And it will only work if it's powered, meaning if you have the Apple Ethernet adapter you will also need the USB 3.0 Camera Adapter from Apple.
In this picture you are seeing the:
- Apple Ethernet Adapter
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_78313/shop/product/MC704LL/A/apple-usb-ethernet-adapter
And this one:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD821AM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter
Lightning to USB Camera Adapter
Now see what happens once we try to use ethernet:
Translation: "The attached accessory uses too much power, it can't be used". Meaning you will not see "ethernet" in the iOS settings.
Now look what happens if I plug the Belking adapter... and the Lightning to USB Camera Adapter mentioned before:
Ethernet is now available. And no need to use the iPAD/iPhone charger, or the USB 3.0 camera adapter.
Indeed, the Belkin is the only known adapter that doesn't need to be powered.
I was going by memory - and certainly could be mistaken. But I will try with my adapter later today.
Apologies, I was mistaken. Indeed the Apple 100M adapter needs power connection.
For the record, I was able to test the new internet plan I installed here (cable, not VDSL/ADSL/FTTH), 120/10 from my new ISP, in the IPP 10.5 (256 GB, wifi+cell, iOS 10.3.2) using these two combos.
More info about the ISP: http://www.dslreports.com/comments/2763
The conclusion from the speedtests is that I can only get 90/10 using Belkin + the old adapter.
Now, if I use the Anker + the USB 3.0 camera adapter + the iPAD charger it's possible to reach 120/10.
The speedtest results are available here:
From the Belkin:
https://imgur.com/a/EUXZntE
From the Anker:
https://imgur.com/a/0Fhtsvz
In both cases I used two different CAT-6 cables, that are connected to this modem (HUMAX HGB10R-02), which is confirmed to be gigabit, by the way.
Note: Fast.com results are the same for both, probably due to the distance from where I am to the server tested.
More info about the ISP: http://www.dslreports.com/comments/2763
The conclusion from the speedtests is that I can only get 90/10 using Belkin + the old adapter.
Now, if I use the Anker + the USB 3.0 camera adapter + the iPAD charger it's possible to reach 120/10.
The speedtest results are available here:
From the Belkin:
https://imgur.com/a/EUXZntE
From the Anker:
https://imgur.com/a/0Fhtsvz
In both cases I used two different CAT-6 cables, that are connected to this modem (HUMAX HGB10R-02), which is confirmed to be gigabit, by the way.
Note: Fast.com results are the same for both, probably due to the distance from where I am to the server tested.
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Since you look expert in hardwiring iPhone and iPad, can I ask you a question? Will VPNs work when you are under Ethernet connection with everything wireless connection disabled? And will you be able to change the DNS server? Thanks very much.
I don't have a VPN, so I can't answer this question. If you have some credentials (not necessarily paid) I can test here if it's possible to use. As for DNS from your ISP, you can change this data in the same way you could with wi-fi.
BTW, Apple hasn't replied that bug report I filed, about ethernet and FaceTime. So zero interest in fixing this known bug. Still I would recommend others to complain about the same thing. I use Telegram:
https://itunes.apple.com/br/app/telegram-messenger/id686449807?mt=8
Instead of FaceTime, and not just because of this, it's a much better app.
Notifications never work if someone is using ethernet only, and disabling wi-fi. I didn't receive any even though ethernet was on all the time.
Another example of how iOS is not designed with this feature in mind.
Also it's not possible to do a backup (to iCloud) without wi-fi. You'll need to enable wi-fi and turn it off (while ethernet is on, of course) to be able to backup your device.
Once wi-fi is disabled the backup continues to be done, using ethernet.
Another example of how iOS is not designed with this feature in mind.
Also it's not possible to do a backup (to iCloud) without wi-fi. You'll need to enable wi-fi and turn it off (while ethernet is on, of course) to be able to backup your device.
Once wi-fi is disabled the backup continues to be done, using ethernet.
Notification work fine through Ethernet. We have run thousands of device through setup and MDM enrollment just fine. Those features require the iPads to receive notifications.
I don't think so. You are saying it's working fine because you have not turned wi-fi off like I did.
Try turning wi-fi off and using an app like Telegram. Or another like eBay. Even with all notifications turned on for all apps, iOS will simply not warn me someone made a phone call or that there's an update in some app simply because the app is running in the background and even though the ethernet is ONLINE AND BEING USED the iOS thinks somehow I am offline.
If I am already viewing the Telegram app (and not just running in the background while I use another app) then I'll be notified there's someone calling me. Otherwise no way.
I noticed the same thing with apps totally different like Tinder. Tinder will not send any notification to me if I don't leave wi-fi ON.
Note: if you want to check this don't use airplane mode. Leave it off. That's right, turn wi-fi OFF manually.
I won't use airplane mode ever again because I can't turn off the warnings that I need to disable this feature to continue using the internet. For example: there's an app called nPlayer, and besides playing songs and movies it offers a browser.
If I turn airplane mode ON then everytime I open this app I am reminded that I need to turn it off, even if I don't want to use the browser at that specific moment. This is another shortcoming from iOS and of course Apple being lazy as it is won't ever fix.
You can tell they want you to be online ALL THE TIME, no matter what. What I don't get it is why offer ethernet in these devices if it's going to be left with all these bugs. You file a bug report and they don't even answer.
I'll also remind you that Apple sells the USB Ethernet Adapter, and it's not cheap: it costs US$ 29. This isn't a feature they decided to offer and our only choice is to buy from other companies. Apple sells the product yet the support for it it's deficient.
How about fixing what I (and others) reported instead of adding more emojis to every new iOS version?
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Edit: it seems the UL speeds are now back to normal, using the iOS 12. Must have been a temporary glitch.
And I am now capable of creating a backup (for iCloud) with wi-fi off + ethernet on. At least they fixed this part.
Edit: 1 day after the update:
Impressive results now! iOS 12 is totally worth it.
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With the announcement of the USB-C for a new iPAD I wonder:
1) How the 2 combos are going to work with it? Would users require an adapter or they won't work at all?
2) Can we use different adapters (suited for USB-C) and ethernet will continue to work?
2.1) Will these adapters work with gigabit speeds? *
* Provided we have at least CAT 5-E ethernet cables and a router that is also gigabit.
I bought two adapters for the Galaxy Tab S4, however I haven't tested them yet. I wonder if they can be used with this new iPAD Pro.
#1 Ableconn - USB to Ethernet - USB2E100B (pictures):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12VWnby_AwgIl8xg4EHQNc0FKpligfgca
Can be found here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UFO1FA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
#2 AmazonBasics USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Gen1 Female Adapter (pictures):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17KQdrMlyjxDu-yR9tlXU9pPWy5moirku
Can be found here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GGKYXVE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
3) Will these different adapters (for USB-C) need to be powered? At least the ones for the Tab S4 don't need this last time I checked, but they are not gigabit, I am sure.
1) How the 2 combos are going to work with it? Would users require an adapter or they won't work at all?
2) Can we use different adapters (suited for USB-C) and ethernet will continue to work?
2.1) Will these adapters work with gigabit speeds? *
* Provided we have at least CAT 5-E ethernet cables and a router that is also gigabit.
I bought two adapters for the Galaxy Tab S4, however I haven't tested them yet. I wonder if they can be used with this new iPAD Pro.
#1 Ableconn - USB to Ethernet - USB2E100B (pictures):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12VWnby_AwgIl8xg4EHQNc0FKpligfgca
Can be found here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UFO1FA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
#2 AmazonBasics USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Gen1 Female Adapter (pictures):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17KQdrMlyjxDu-yR9tlXU9pPWy5moirku
Can be found here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GGKYXVE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
3) Will these different adapters (for USB-C) need to be powered? At least the ones for the Tab S4 don't need this last time I checked, but they are not gigabit, I am sure.
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I did a quick search and found one that is also gigabit:
https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-uni...sr=1-1-spons&keywords=USB-C+to+ethernet&psc=1
The description says:
Plug-and-Play, no additional driver/software needed. Compatible with Mac OS, Windows, Chrome OS, and Linux. Connect your USB-C devices(laptop/tablet/smartphone) to a network router, RJ45 wall outlet, or network switch to enjoy fast and stable gigabit ethernet network connection.
The problem is that we have no way of knowing in advance if this will work at all with iOS/this upcoming iPAD (or iPhones).
I assume it will work directly and we don't need to power anything. Just plug the ethernet cable and "Ethernet" appears in the iOS settings.
Considering the fact Apple didn't even bother to fix that Facetime bug, it's a good question if there's going to be USB-C support.
BTW, since iOS 12 it's possible to do a backup to iCloud without wi-fi turned on. At least they fixed that.
Another thing I noticed is that in iOS 10 (or 10.3.2) the icon that indicates cellular data (a green circle with the lollipop and double parentheses) is missing. In my case the IPP 10.5 doesn't have a SIM card at the moment - in iOS 10 it wasn't there (the icon) and it was disabled internally. *
* I mean: not searching for a signal.
After iOS 11 (and 12) this icon appeared in Control Center and we can disable manually. By default is turned on (despite the missing SIM card), just like wi-fi and Bluetooth, after the iOS update. So after iOS 11 you either use Airplane mode or disable the 3 things manually, one by one.
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What I want to know is this:
1) Isn't really possible to use a USB-C to ethernet and the USB-C to 3.5mm HEADPHONE Adapter AT THE SAME TIME?
If isn't possible then that means while using the internet no one will be able to listen with a wired version (it will have to rely on the iPAD speakers), like the Earpods. I have multiple Google Drive accounts (some with huge files) and with nPlayer (or Infuse) am able to do a streaming.
With this change then I would have to download the whole thing or use wi-fi/a bluetooth headphone (if ethernet is being used);
2) I mentioned 2 combos in this thread. One of them is gigabit (Anker + USB 3 camera adapter from Apple) and capable of charging the iPAD at the same time. All these adapters will have to be ditched? Or I can use another (adapter) to make them compatible with the USB-C port?
3) If you can please do a test with a GIGABIT USB-C to Ethernet adapter.
In Windows (PC) this free software can be usead to measure the UL/DL speeds:
https://codebox.net/pages/bitmeteros
With BitMeter OS (running in my browser) I am able to measure the upload speeds, while I send a file from my PC to the iPAD. The tests revealed that 12 MB/s (very slow) is the max UL speed if something is not GIGABIT. If everything is (CAT 5-E or 6 ethernet cable + wi-fi router + adapters) then you can get at least 90, 100 or in the best scenario 120 MB/s).
4) BTW, I see that Apple sells a gigabit USB-C to ethernet adapter:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HJKF2ZM/A/belkin-usb-c-to-gigabit-ethernet-adapter
Is this thing compatible? From the looks of it, it doesn't need to be powered.
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For the record, if the goal is to reduce EMF then I suggest not using the #2 combo (Anker + USB 3, gigabit), unless absolutely necessary (I don't, only for streaming/sending files). There are 3 types of EMF: https://emfinfo.org/three-types-emf.html
One of them are the ELECTRIC FIELDS. As you may have guessed, it's not a good idea to use any device while it's charging (I am not talking about them explosion/electrocution...), and this is exactly what happens with the Anker + USB 3 camera adapter.
As for MAGNETIC FIELDS, it's simple to avoid too much exposure: if you are going to study (for example, reading ebooks for a while) simply put the iPAD above a table (while you sit upright in a good chair), and putting some distance between you and the device you'll be less exposed to it. This also helps posture, as this link suggests.
The same for RF radiation, it's better to use a speakerphone or simply use headphones instead of putting the phone close to your head.
I just want the speed. I am tired of WiFi that never gives the speed they promise, and getting an access point and place it in my room is not worth it then i can just get the Ethernet adapter.
Good news is that support confirms that USB-C to Ethernet is supported for the new Ipad Pros.
Good news is that support confirms that USB-C to Ethernet is supported for the new Ipad Pros.