I got that exact same phone just a couple days before you, and I'm blown away as well. I came from an 8 plus, and this thing does truly feel like a generational leap. Face ID is CRAZY. Well worth the upgrade, and coming from a 6s? OP is going to melt.
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iPhone Has iOS 13 prevented you to buy a new iPhone?
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I got that exact same phone just a couple days before you, and I'm blown away as well. I came from an 8 plus, and this thing does truly feel like a generational leap. Face ID is CRAZY. Well worth the upgrade, and coming from a 6s? OP is going to melt.
I sold my iphone 7 plus over ios 11 and bought a note 8. History is about to repeat itself. All the same reasons all over again. I’ve never been so annoyed by an OS since 11.
Yes. I was thinking of trading in my XR with the jump program on T-Mobile. Having iOS 13 on this phone has made it seem like I have a brand new device. I’ll wait another year to upgrade. I’m happy with the phone I have.
I am a new iOS user. I have been using an iPad for an year and an iPhone for 6 months. I had no issues upgrading my ipad to iOS 12 but I think in general most people did not have issues. That is aside the Notes app that for me was totally unresponsive on my iPad.
iOS 13 is the second upgrade I went through. Man this is a complete mess. I have been Android user for the last 10 years and I have never had such a buggy OS on a phone. It is completely unacceptable in my view. Considering iOS 13 state (I unfortunately upgraded my devices to it and now I regret it) I would not be willing to pay for a new device. Especially knowing how much newest iPhones cost.
I already know that next year I will wait more and read more forums before deciding to upgrade. The fact that people experience so many different issues with the same hardware is mind blowing. That tells me that the system is quite unstable and sensitive. This does not give me insurance for general stability improvements.
iOS 13 is the second upgrade I went through. Man this is a complete mess. I have been Android user for the last 10 years and I have never had such a buggy OS on a phone. It is completely unacceptable in my view. Considering iOS 13 state (I unfortunately upgraded my devices to it and now I regret it) I would not be willing to pay for a new device. Especially knowing how much newest iPhones cost.
I already know that next year I will wait more and read more forums before deciding to upgrade. The fact that people experience so many different issues with the same hardware is mind blowing. That tells me that the system is quite unstable and sensitive. This does not give me insurance for general stability improvements.
It is very hard to make a decision: I am torn between the excitement of upgrading from a 6s to a 11 Pro that must represent a decent upgrade gap and the wise choice of waiting for 13.2
I am afraid to have buyer remorse especially if I through 2k for something that is not working properly or we can all agree, on something that should work as expected.
I am afraid to have buyer remorse especially if I through 2k for something that is not working properly or we can all agree, on something that should work as expected.
Then don’t buy one, or buy one realise the bugs are minimal and live your life. It’s not the big issue you’re making it out to be.
It depends on the use case. Some bugs are minimal for some and not so minimal to others.
I read so many different complaints that you never know whether you as an end user would have issues or not. And that is huge deal.
That being said OP no one can decide for you. You have to decide what is more important to you - getting the new iPhone which does sound quite good on paper and I am sure that it will be if you don't run into any iOS issues or stability. If it is the first one, you can buy it. Otherwise you should wait.
You need to decide for yourself whether the current iOS 13 bugs are minimal or major to you.
Just curious. Do you install from factory default or do an update from existing version?
I would say, if you really need to upgrade, you can buy it and return it within the 14 days if you are not satisfied or experience buyer remorse. As rumored, there is a budget iPhone coming early next year. Might be better to get it before the holidays if you decide to return it.
When you do get it, put it into the recovery mode and restore the device to get the latest firmware and start fresh on the device. As long as you backed up using iCloud, everything will sync back after you sign in but you’ll need to download and sign back into all the apps separately. This is to avoid issues restoring from iCloud backup.
I am thinking of making it "Totally Brand New". I just need to transfer my contacts and my Notes. I wonder how to do that, especially because if I delete everything from my iPhone 6S (absolutely everything except Notes and Contacts), everything will be deleted from iCloud, right? And I share my Notes with my 2 Macs.
I wouldn’t delete anything. You can toggle off any of those features from iCloud and wipe them from the phone. But I really see no need for that. If you’re looking at an 11 Pro, I have the Max, I think you will be quite pleased. If anything you might have to toggle one feature or another such as Reminders or Health data under iCloud to get them to sync back to your new device. At worst you might have to sign out of iCloud altogether and back in to get everything functioning properly. I’ve found that most of the issues in 13 involve some kind of icloud syncing. But the Pros have had probably the fewest issues and almost nothing that would make you regret the purchase. Just do the normal routine. Final iCloud backup of your old device, turn on the new one, use the quick set up from the old device, restore from the just performed iCloud backup. Give it a few hours to download your apps, that will vary depending on your internet speed.
Once all that‘s done just check your various functions, odds are you’ll be fine. Then if you’re getting rid of the old one, sign out of iTunes and icloud,wipe the device and turn it off. Just keep in mind on the new device you may have to toggle off one iCloud feature or another to trigger a sync or maybe even sign out of iCloud and back in. I’ve had to do that on every device that was upgraded to 13 or Catalina. On my Max Pro I had to do it once after the activation because iCloud Keychain would not stay enabled, each time I toggled it on it turned itself off. At first I didn’t even know that had happened, I wasn’t having any problems but noticed it in settings. That was the only time and it was fairly quick and painless, except for setting up Apple Pay again but even that’s pretty quick since all your card info is saved. And each of these things vary between users and devices so you may not encounter any of it.
This is a completely myopic, uninformed opinion. Take just a few minutes to read posts here and in the iPhone forum. I’m glad you’re not having any serious problems with 13. A large number of users have significant problems with 13. Blindly asserting that the bugs in 13 are “minimal” won’t make it so.
So what's the difference? Either buy an 11 Pro now, which might (or might not) exhibit a few bugs, then upgrade it to 13.2 when the time comes, or wait until 13.2 is launched and buy an 11 Pro then. The end result will be the same. It's not like the phone will work better in the future if you wait now. You'll buy exactly the same phone that you would buy now. And the price will be the same. So you might as well buy it now and get it over with.
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People who say problems are small don’t use their phones clearly. More likely, are people who haven’t had an iPhone longer than a year to a couple years. There are a LOT of people on this forum who have had apple gear and iphones for a decade and when you use it for more than facebook, it shows.
While some issues are annoying, other are where something that has worked for years no longer does. ios 13 has more holes than swiss cheese to an experienced iphone user. You can total up literally 100 or more issues and I’ll give you a few more.....
Keychain hasn’t worked since i went from 12 to 13. Nothing has helped fix it. For others it works on some devices, then on the same devices it doesn’t. Apple’s checklist didn’t help me when i was on support chat. Still unresolved.
Safari tap to zoom...... i can tap it 100 times, it isn’t zooming. text no longer fills the screen on google searches, pinching to zoom simply goes directly back to tiny when you let go, resolution acts like it’s 4 times too high.
3D/force touch - even if you have a device that does it, doesn’t anymore. Press, hold, wait. Then get a menu instead of an action..... one of several ways apple made 1 step turn into 3.
Actually I’m going to save my time typing because I’m not telling anyone anything new that actually uses their phone properly and not for text and facebook alone.
As far as buying the phone, Apple will fix many things as updates come. Eventually you’ll like it, then they’ll update it yet again....... and you’d be smart not to. Once the half life of the OS comes they usually fix everything.
I wouldn't let iOS current state sway me one bit from purchasing a new phone if I needed one. If I wanted one and didn't have the urgent need for it, I might wait until it's more stable. I covet an 11 Pro model but think I'm holding out for another year before I purchase a new phone. Still they look absolutely fantastic.
I purchased an 8+ with iOS 11 and that was similar to what many are reporting with 13. I can't remember exactly what they were, but I do remember a few issues that were frustrating for sure. Eventually they got fixed. 13 may not be the smoothest of iOS updates but the good news is Apple is pushing out updates to fix flaws much quicker this time by comparison to 11, if memory serves me correct.
Full disclosure, I'm on 12.4.1 with my 8+ and will wait until at least 13.2 before I update iOS. I'm not as ambitious as my 83 year old father, he's already updated his 6s to 13 😂
I purchased an 8+ with iOS 11 and that was similar to what many are reporting with 13. I can't remember exactly what they were, but I do remember a few issues that were frustrating for sure. Eventually they got fixed. 13 may not be the smoothest of iOS updates but the good news is Apple is pushing out updates to fix flaws much quicker this time by comparison to 11, if memory serves me correct.
Full disclosure, I'm on 12.4.1 with my 8+ and will wait until at least 13.2 before I update iOS. I'm not as ambitious as my 83 year old father, he's already updated his 6s to 13 😂
Wow I am back to be worried now...Do we have a list of all the bugs people are facing? There is a new iOS update and it seems that some bugs read here are still no addressed but a few are.
I was expecting a 13.2, honestly.
Thanks for listing some bugs. Maybe as @one1 maybe half-cycle update should be give us the green light.
I was expecting a 13.2, honestly.
Thanks for listing some bugs. Maybe as @one1 maybe half-cycle update should be give us the green light.
Different people/devices can experience different things--some might be the same, some might be different--while various other people/devices aren't really experiencing much one way or another.
As far as 13.2, it's still a bit early for that given that it's still fairly early in the beta cycle for it.
This:
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My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
[Merged] iPhone 11 Pro Calls Dropping
Really pleased with battery life on my new 11 pro. I’ve had 3 days of light use out of a single charge, and still had 25% left At bedtime on third day. However, I am getting dropped calls repeatedly. Tried resetting network settings, even upgrading to 13.2 beta, but it is still dropping calls...
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My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
All kinds of people have had a verity of different reception/call issues through the years, while many others haven’t. So far it’s hard to say if this is really something all that widespread, or really is affected by iOS 13 or iPhone 11 or something else (like something from the carrier).This:
[Merged] iPhone 11 Pro Calls Dropping
Really pleased with battery life on my new 11 pro. I’ve had 3 days of light use out of a single charge, and still had 25% left At bedtime on third day. However, I am getting dropped calls repeatedly. Tried resetting network settings, even upgrading to 13.2 beta, but it is still dropping calls...
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
If you just use your phone to little web browsing, social media, taking pictures and stuff like that, iOS 13 will be probably just fine for you, but if you need some accessibility settings like smart invert colours, its still completely broken even on iOS 13.1.3. Music and mail app also have issues and sometime Safari will show the webpage in a little corner of the screen (hard to explain) and all the rest is white and have to completely restart the app to work again, so yeah, Safari is also not as good/responsive as iOS 12.
Also haptic touch almost replace 3D touch, but again, its not as good and responsive as 3d touch was, new gestures for copy and past are hard to do on iPhone due to the smaller screen etc. In the end, iOS 13 is not polished compared to iOS 12.
Also haptic touch almost replace 3D touch, but again, its not as good and responsive as 3d touch was, new gestures for copy and past are hard to do on iPhone due to the smaller screen etc. In the end, iOS 13 is not polished compared to iOS 12.
Thanks. Overall, the wide and shared opinion among everybody is that iOS 13 is worst than iOS 12. Even if not 100% of people have bugs, at least 100% of them are experiencing something "less" (what?) than iOS 12.