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TH3D4RKKN1GH7

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That's the achilles heel of mirrorless though right? Remember the x100.. it will improve soon.

Well, not anymore; I think the A6300 has the fastest AF on the market. Before that the GH4 was pretty up there— the A7rII is no slouch either. I imagine they'll get better but as @steveash pointed out, it isn't really their strong suit.
 

kenoh

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Well, not anymore; I think the A6300 has the fastest AF on the market. Before that the GH4 was pretty up there— the A7rII is no slouch either. I imagine they'll get better but as @steveash pointed out, it isn't really their strong suit.


Ha ha... yes finally i can get my daughters in motion on my a7rii... but they are still a way off dslr speed... not poor but not pro sports quick - not that i take pro sports shots that is so I am sorted...
 

ChrisA

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This is not the camera to use for sports photography. But for subjects that can wait a few seconds, like fashion models and landscapes and most products this will be popular.

I used to shoot medium format film in 6x7 cm format. What I liked was the color and detail. I could get 80MP scans from the negatives. But you know what? most images today are viewed on electronic screens. So your final image file, after editing does not need more in it than can be displayed on a 4K screen.
 
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kenoh

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This is not the camera to use for sports photography. But for subjects that can wait a few seconds, like fashion models and landscapes and most products this will be popular.

I used to shoot medium format film in 6x7 cm format. What I liked was the color and detail. I could get 80MP scans from the negatives. But you know what? most images today are viewed on electronic screens. So your final image file, after editing does not need more in it than can be displayed on a 4K screen.


Ah but I have to crop like a mofo... I am good at VGA resolution right now... so 80mp gives me at least HD.... ha ha ha ha. Joking...
 
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sarge

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This is not the camera to use for sports photography. But for subjects that can wait a few seconds, like fashion models and landscapes and most products this will be popular.

I used to shoot medium format film in 6x7 cm format. What I liked was the color and detail. I could get 80MP scans from the negatives. But you know what? most images today are viewed on electronic screens. So your final image file, after editing does not need more in it than can be displayed on a 4K screen.

Ah....6x7. I didn't really want to go with the 645 to be honest. I've have been holding out for 2 or 3 years since hearing rumors of a an impending Sony/Mamiya collaboration (The Mamiya 7II being one of my all time favorite cameras). When Leaf bought Mamiya I thought we'd finally get a digital 7III. I'm still hanging on to the Mamiya lenses in hopes I'll be able to use it again someday - that was some incredible glass right there. I would take the Mamiya 6x7 over the Hasselblad any day.
 
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phrehdd

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I'm eager to see the Hassie counterpart coming from Fuji which promises to be cheaper. Fuji's X series latest small sensor cameras are impressive (as is their commitment to excellent lenses).
 

AlexH

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I'm eager to see the Hassie counterpart coming from Fuji which promises to be cheaper. Fuji's X series latest small sensor cameras are impressive (as is their commitment to excellent lenses).
Same here. Competition in that space should be very interesting!
 
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Ray2

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That's the achilles heel of mirrorless though right? Remember the x100.. it will improve soon.
It has, X100S gave us good daylight AF, the X100T gave us both. Coming from 35 years with Nikon and having all 3 of the X100's, "soon" was quite a while ago.
[doublepost=1469950984][/doublepost]Nice camera, glad they did it, not for me, irrespective of price. Needs IBIS as well if it's not limited to studio.
 

kenoh

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Yep that
It has, X100S gave us good daylight AF, the X100T gave us both. Coming from 35 years with Nikon and having all 3 of the X100's, "soon" was quite a while ago.
[doublepost=1469950984][/doublepost]Nice camera, glad they did it, not for me, irrespective of price. Needs IBIS as well if it's not limited to studio.

Yep that was my poorly made point. It will improve. From what I have seen of this so far it is promising. Just a tad expensive for a hobbyist right now. That too will improve.
 

Ray2

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Yep that


Yep that was my poorly made point. It will improve. From what I have seen of this so far it is promising. Just a tad expensive for a hobbyist right now. That too will improve.
I read "it" as X100.
 
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kenoh

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I read "it" as X100.

I am a Geordie living in Glasgow... some people argue English is a second language to me... yes I meant like the x100, it improved over time as the s and t interations arrived. I believe the x1d will also improve future generations arrive.

The bit that wont change is the cost of the sensor. You dont get many of those out of a silicon wafer!
 

mavericks7913

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Well I tested X1D with my hand. It is quite revolutionary camera I believe. Price is similar to Pentax 645Z's initial price. First camera that used USB-C port, leaf shutter only, and smooth touch screen like iPhone. I just worry about the battery cause it has only 4 hour of operating and it heats quite hot like a fire. Leaf shutter is very brilliant idea which solves a lot of issues that current mirrorless cameras had: sync speed, size, sound, durability, and more. I hope Sony and Fuji make cheaper mirrorless camera and announce in September.
 

Larry-K

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I just picked up a very lightly used (under 1300 actuations) 645z and an HD 28-45mm lens. Haven't really had a chance to use it yet but it's an absolute MONSTER...I'm already looking forward to a mirrorless medium format future.
Wonderful camera, if only it was digital.
 
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sarge

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Wonderful camera, if only it was digital.

If only it was digital? Not sure I get the joke (unless there is a meaningful difference between a captial Z and a lower case z - in which case mea culpa )

Manufacturer description: Featuring an amazing 51.4 megapixels on a high-performance CMOS image sensor, the PENTAX 645Z assures super-high-resolution images with a stunningly realistic sense of depth combined with vivid colors and rich shadow detail. The resulting images feature a uniquely distinct look and an unmistakable brilliance that clearly differentiate professional photographers to their clients. The thoughtful inclusion of a CMOS image sensor enables live view on a tiltable LCD panel while also making the 645Z the first and only camera in the medium-format category to offer video recording capabilities, resulting in footage that captures amazingly lifelike reproductions with tangible depth and incredible dynamic range.
 
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kenoh

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If only it was digital? Not sure I get the joke (unless there is a meaningful difference between a captial Z and a lower case z - in which case mea culpa )

Manufacturer description: Featuring an amazing 51.4 megapixels on a high-performance CMOS image sensor, the PENTAX 645Z assures super-high-resolution images with a stunningly realistic sense of depth combined with vivid colors and rich shadow detail. The resulting images feature a uniquely distinct look and an unmistakable brilliance that clearly differentiate professional photographers to their clients. The thoughtful inclusion of a CMOS image sensor enables live view on a tiltable LCD panel while also making the 645Z the first and only camera in the medium-format category to offer video recording capabilities, resulting in footage that captures amazingly lifelike reproductions with tangible depth and incredible dynamic range.


Very nice... yes it is digital but there is a classic film version. This is the reincarnation of it. Lovely kit.
 

sarge

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Very nice... yes it is digital but there is a classic film version. This is the reincarnation of it. Lovely kit.

Overall I'm pretty impressed with the IQ of the Pentax. Aside from the weight I don't mind the the ergonomics...it's the lens that is making it rather unwieldy.

I accidentally turned on the auto-bracket feature the other day and spent the next few hours completely perplexed....I think I discovered that if you interrupt the 3 shot bracket sequence (which I was doing because I didn't know I turned it on or worse, how to turn it off) it seemed to fulfill the other side of the bracket on the next shot. For a while there I thought I had some mirror up function enabled or either some live view mode (it also shoots video) because the exposures weren't bracketing in the expected manner. Now if I can just figure out why the images are upside down upon import I think I'll be OK! Oh the joys of learning a new system...
 
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