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iPhone SE (2016) Have an X, but just ordered an SE - think I'll regret it?
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You are.
You claimed that "99% of the public are buying bigger and bigger phones" than the SE. That would imply that 99% of the market has an iPhone 6-like device or beyond in screen size. And that's simply false.
You'd be surprised how many users are still on iPhone 4/4s/5/5s and SE. I can assure you that it's not 1%.
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Wait, so you actually believe that 99% phone users on this planet use a bigger phone than the SE?
lol!
You brought the iPhone 6 many times and as I said before not everyone owns an iPhone... 1% is still a lot even though it's nothing compared to 99% and my point is still valid and you know it. You're just trying to make yours look valid which it isn't. You're assuming there's still a huge demand for smaller screen sizes which isn't true and the market shows it. There's not a single phone being released with less than 5" inch screen, be it an iPhone or whatever. You own an SE and like it? Congratulations! That doesn't change the fact that the market for smaller phones is dead and Apple is only letting their stock go thats why they put it for sale.
Your point is not valid by any stretch.
I don't think you understand the analogy of the iPhone 6 here. The iPhone 6 - as far as I can tell - is a smartphone with the smallest screen on the market that is bigger than the SE and still being sold (as new). Therefore, according to your logic, 99% of all phone users in the world own a phone whose screen size is that of the 6s or beyond.
And this claim of 99% is plain false. You pulled it out of your butt. I never once claimed that there's "huge" demand for the SE. But yes, the demand is there and it shows.
The market for smaller phone is dead only in your mind. If it were truly dead, you wouldn't see them selling out and people constantly asking on this and other boards on where to buy them.
You're clueless to think about what people say on this boards translates to the real world demand.
No point arguing anymore, you live a world in which small screen sizes sell more than giant screens.
Keep in mind people buy the SE because is cheap, the small size screen is used as an excuse.
Don't be mad, bro.
If you bring imaginary claims of "99%" into the convo, expect people to call you out on it.
Keep in mind people buy a phone that suits them, the big size screen can't compensate for your insecurities.
I'm not mad, just look outside people want and use big phones because they want to consume content. You're the one making up claims about how there's market share for small screens. Why do you think Apple stopped making smaller phones? Yet you bring the iPhone 6 to the convo, since the start we were talking about the 4" inch of the SE not a 4.7".
This is a really far fetched statement. Cheap-er, yes, but the small screen is an ‘excuse’? Anyone, and I mean anyone.....purchases the SE for the smaller display, because they are disinterested in larger displays that are more cumbersome to use and consume more space. Period. Research any thread in this forum reference the SE and it’s evident why others are passionate about the SE for a reason, and it’s not solely because it’s cheap.
lol omg
Yes, there's a market share for small phones. Deal with it. That's a fact. Whatever that number is can be debated. But it does, in fact, exist.
You're throwing imaginary numbers around. First, you mentioned that 99% of public wants phones that are bigger and bigger and supplemented this argument by stating that they all want 5" phones and beyond.
So, what you're essentially saying is that all phone users in the world with a screen size of less than 5" make up less than 1% of the pool. That's false.
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There's no point. He doesn't want to admit that he's spreading nonsense. According to him, the entire world wants a phone with a 5" screen or bigger. End of story.
What's ironic is that in all the SE threads on this board, people hardly ever mention the price. They primarily talk about the size.
Literally all I care about with my SE is the physical size.
Cost never even remotely entered the equation for me.
Cost never even remotely entered the equation for me.
haha
You're wrong. That's not possible. You must like it because of the price.
Right!
How silly of me.
Actually 99% of all users care about the price the most, don’t ya’ know?
That’s courtesy of “stats outta my butt LLC”
Just got my SE switching from the X. I didn't think I would love it as much as I would. The screen really isn't that small. One handed swiping on gboard is freaking amazing. I don't do anything cpu/GPU intensive so the user experience feels the same as any other high end iDevice. Now I really hope the SE 2 will come out.
Exactly this. I cannot even use anything smaller than the 4.7" 6/6s/7 form factor any more. Anything less is far too small and apps look a congested cramped mess resulting in a horrible user experience. Even typing is just plain awkward.
4, 4S, 5, 5s and the SE have been design classics. Perfect size for a "phone" and more. 5 was 110g if I am not wrong, and it always reminded me fondly of the Sony Ericsson T610 which was a lovely little beast.
If the SE is snappier than the X.. Apple needs a major rework of their code base once again. I sold off my 5s only because it did not support VoLTE. At some point, I intend to pick up an SE to fill the void. Each time I picked up that 5s, it was instant love at the form factor.
Lastly, I wholeheartedly agree with you on several "life" points you made, including not running after the newest.
Reading this discussion I must admit that in the area of smaller phones when comes to Apple there is this big hole of confusion for me. Cannot say what is the main reason that Apple dropped the smaller screen factor upgrades and focused on the bigger devices - if it was mainly the direct competition or strictly decision based on market research - its obvious that the company will invest in area where the biggest income margin is for its future.
To be honest - after I decided to upgrade from SE the actual bigger issue I had was not with choosing between the X and XR models (this dillema came later) but make the decision if it should be the regular iPhone 8 size or the bigger phone like X/XR - only just because of the screen factor and overall size &weight. And to be honest - if the regular iPhone 8 now had the same screen coverage as X without the bezels I would choose it blindly with no questions asked.
To this day as much as I like using my new X now - I still believe it would be the perfect device for me if it was sized as 4.7 with all the rest features and design kept.
To be honest - after I decided to upgrade from SE the actual bigger issue I had was not with choosing between the X and XR models (this dillema came later) but make the decision if it should be the regular iPhone 8 size or the bigger phone like X/XR - only just because of the screen factor and overall size &weight. And to be honest - if the regular iPhone 8 now had the same screen coverage as X without the bezels I would choose it blindly with no questions asked.
To this day as much as I like using my new X now - I still believe it would be the perfect device for me if it was sized as 4.7 with all the rest features and design kept.
FTFY
One thing I'll never understand about this place is how people can come in and act like they speak for everyone. Has the population developed smartphone amnesia? Have these people forgotten that we used 4" screens for two years and did just fine? How about the 3.5" screens we used for five years?
Don't you remember that those were IMPOSSIBLE to use and NOBODY bought them because they were TOO SMALL!!!! WAY too small... UN-USABLE
lol
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I think if you actually used it for awhile, you might forget those concerns. But it does depend how you use your phone. I have an SE that I use for short interactions when out and about, and an iPad mini for longer interactions at home. But the funny thing is, at home if my SE happens to be closer, I’ll often use it and not even miss my mini—as long as I’m wearing my glasses. As far as typing, I really find them equally easy. I don’t make any more or less errors on either, but I’m faster on the SE because my fingers don’t have to travel as far.
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Yeah, they even explictly said as much:
“[Federighi] confirmed that Apple believes Face ID is the future of biometric authentication, with the caveat that there are settings where different biometric techniques or combinations of biometrics could make sense.” (emphasis added)
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/15/craig-federighi-addresses-face-id-concerns/
See but you are using 2 devices when you can easily have one device for all of your uses. I have an iPhone XS Max and I don't even have the need for an iPad. I do it all from my phone.
Some of us just prefer 2 different devices that are each more optimal for their particular usage contexts.
For instance, when I'm on the go with just a phone, I want literally the smallest and lightest device possible -- an iPhone SE in my case.
Yeah, what turbine said is true for me too, but actually the whole two device vs one device thing wasn’t relevant to my point. Sorry if I confused the issue bringing the mini into the discussion, but I only mentioned it to compare using a small and big device. In my previous post, I could have actually replaced the “mini” with a “6s plus” (which I used to use before the SE), and the same conclusions would have applied—just to a lesser extent.