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I would go for the Xr over the Xs because I don’t like the narrow screen. I used to have a 6S Plus which I loved, tried upgrading to the X last year but it was much heavier and (for me) far less screen real estate. I know the figures, but I like a wider device that’s not so tall as I make too many errors when typing on a narrow screen. I’ve lasted a year with my 8 but looking forward to the wider screen of the Xs Max (although not the weigt or height). If I find the PWM affects me badly, I wil return it and get the Xr.
 
I don't like XR. It would be a downgrade for me from 6S Plus display - it has lower resolution per pixel inch (PPI).
Also, the camera is not that good and water resistance could be better. Besides, having a faster network capabilities is also a good advantage for XS. That's the phone, it has to get good reception.
I also never had a phone from stainless steel and this is really tempting....
I can't wait for my XS to arrive!
 
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I'd recommend finding a deal on an iPhone X over getting the Xr. The iPhone X beats the Xr in everything aside from the processor.
 
What’s that about the bokeh effect only working on objects? First time I‘m reading this. I can imagine this to be the case, but has it been confirmed?


XR single cam portrait mode requires a recognized face in frame to function as it uses the new neural-engine segmentation stuff to work from there. It doesn't have the second lens assisting in a general depth map creation so it relies on object recognition (people) to work. It's people only as of right now.
 
Reading the comments here it’s again very clear simply don’t read specs or understand what the XR has. Comments on the camera being poor are laughable (clue, it’s the exact same as the new main camera sensor on the XS but more capable)! But hey what ever justifies your buying an XS.
 
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Reading the comments here it’s again very clear simply don’t read specs or understand what the XR has. Comments on the camera being poor are laughable (clue, it’s the exact same as the new main camera sensor on the XS but more capable)! But hey what ever justifies your buying an XS.
Out of curiosity, why is it more capable than on the XS?
 
Because it does the same Bokeh trick with a single lens that the others have to use both lenses for!
Oh that - Sorry, I thought there was something else I was missing.

I was definitely surprised that the XR will be packing such a good camera and it did give me more food for thought than I thought it would. It’ll be interesting to see if it handles the bokeh as well as the XS. But saying that, I’ve never found it particularly impressive on previous iPhones.
 
Hi. Here is a link to what I read about it. For what it’s worth.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cultofmac.com/576167/iphone-xr-portrait-mode/amp/
I just hope it works well with full body shots of humans.

I also hope the edge-finding software algorithm works better than on my 7 Plus. I just tested the iPhone X's portrait mode yesterday, but its edge-finding software algorithm (or whatever is used to determine what is subject and what is background) does just as poorly as what I get on the 7 Plus.
 
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I just hope it works well with full body shots of humans.

I also hope the edge-finding software algorithm works better than on my 7 Plus. I just tested the iPhone X's portrait mode yesterday, but its edge-finding software algorithm (or whatever is used to determine what is subject and what is background) does just as poorly as what I get on the 7 Plus.
I couldn’t agree with you more on both hopes. Edge-finding I’ve found to be poor most times. I can really tell if I try to use the stage light option. The post adjusting worked flawlessly in the demo. Imagine that lol.
 
No slightly about it. The differences in screen are huge. The differences in camera are likewise significant.

Okay, it isn't slightly to SOME people, but lets be real, other than how black the blacks are, the differences in screen won't be THAT noticeable to the average person, same for the camera. To nerds like myself, it might be a larger difference, but to many, it will be slight, I imagine.
 
I couldn’t agree with you more on both hopes. Edge-finding I’ve found to be poor most times. I can really tell if I try to use the stage light option. The post adjusting worked flawlessly in the demo. Imagine that lol.
The Verge says the XS still has significant problems with edge finding in portrait mode.
 
what about battery. that's kind of important.
The Wall Street Journal did a video streaming test and the XS lasted 10.5 hours. The Max lasted almost 13 hours, so about 20-25% longer.

Apple rates the XR as lasting longer than the Max. So my guess for that kind of test would have the XR lasting between 1/4 to 1/3rd longer than the XS.
 
what about battery. that's kind of important.
I don't think we have any real life comparison of the two in terms of battery life. I'd expect it to be similar between the two since the XR is powering a larger LCD display which is generally less battery efficient, but has a more efficient processor.
 
I don't think we have any real life comparison of the two in terms of battery life. I'd expect it to be similar between the two since the XR is powering a larger LCD display which is generally less battery efficient, but has a more efficient processor.
Apple has already said that the XR has longer battery life than the XS Max, and both the XR and XS Max have significantly longer battery life than the XS.

Also, as I posted above, in one test from the Wall Street Journal has already shown the Max to last over 20% longer than the XS.
 
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Apple has already said that the XR has longer battery life than the XS Max, and both the XR and XS Max have significantly longer battery life than the XS.

Also, as I posted above, in one test from the Wall Street Journal has already shown the Max to last over 20% longer than the XS.
I've seen XS Max to XS and X comparisons, but where did you see any comparison involving the XR? During the keynote and on the website they were comparing its battery life to the 8 Plus.
 
I've seen XS Max to XS and X comparisons, but where did you see any comparison involving the XR? During the keynote and on the website they were comparing its battery life to the 8 Plus.
It's in the Apple specs.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

Internet use:
Up to 15 hours - XR
Up to 13 hours - XS Max
Up to 12 hours - XS

Video playback:
Up to 16 hours - XR
Up to 15 hours - XS Max
Up to 14 hours - XS

Audio playback:
Up to 65 hours - XR
Up to 65 hours - XS Max
Up to 60 hours - XS

Talk time:
Up to 25 hours - XR
Up to 25 hours - XS Max
Up to 20 hours - XS

Personally, what I use my iPhone the most for is internet. Looking at the spec above, Apple thinks the XR should last 25% longer than the XS for this purpose.

The corresponding number for the X last year were 12 (same as XS), 13 (less than XS), 60 (same as XS), and 21 (more than XS).
 
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I don't think we have any real life comparison of the two in terms of battery life. I'd expect it to be similar between the two since the XR is powering a larger LCD display which is generally less battery efficient, but has a more efficient processor.

LCD is more efficient when displaying white screen content. This is the case for many apps.
 
It's in the Apple specs.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

Internet use:
Up to 15 hours - XR
Up to 13 hours - XS Max
Up to 12 hours - XS

Video playback:
Up to 16 hours - XR
Up to 15 hours - XS Max
Up to 14 hours - XS

Audio playback:
Up to 65 hours - XR
Up to 65 hours - XS Max
Up to 60 hours - XS

Talk time:
Up to 25 hours - XR
Up to 25 hours - XS Max
Up to 20 hours - XS

Personally, what I use my iPhone the most for is internet.
That's actually extremely surprising. I'm curious to see some performance benchmarks for the XR. It just doesn't make sense to me that the XR would be able to outperform the XS Max in battery life unless they're throttling the performance or the battery is just larger. Personally, I just couldn't downgrade from an OLED to an LCD.
 
That's actually extremely surprising. I'm curious to see some performance benchmarks for the XR. It just doesn't make sense to me that the XR would be able to outperform the XS Max in battery life unless they're throttling the performance or the battery is just larger. Personally, I just couldn't downgrade from an OLED to an LCD.
The battery is likely quite a bit larger (as it's a much bigger phone after all), and as @JPack mentioned, when displaying a white background, LCD is more efficient than OLED.
 
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