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homerdog

macrumors newbie
Sep 6, 2004
12
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England
Interesting debate about HDR, seems you either love it or hate it. I love it! :)

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ksz

macrumors 68000
Oct 28, 2003
1,679
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USA
^^^ Very nicely done on 2 an 3! You've used HDR for its intended purpose: to expose both shadows and highlights properly rather than to create an otherworld look. Number 2 evokes very pleasant memories and number 3 is commercial quality. I'd love to have the full version of image 3; let me know by PM if you're willing to offer it!
 

Mantat

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2003
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Montréal (Canada)
I think that a lot of people dont understand what HRD really is. It is not that you have to have high contrast color or have an apocalyptic look.

It mean that the final result image has a higher dynamic range than what the original medium could have captured.

This is why you can do it with RAW files and not (really) with JPEGs. JPEGs dont store additional color information in the file, they only keep the required minimum. So when you play around with the exposure of a JPEG, the application cant pull more details out of the picture, it simply make the picture paler/darker, which gives the impression that the exposure changed while it didnt.

On the other side, a RAW file store the picture as it was captured: one negative per color. Some details might not be visible to one color spectrum but can be visible in another. That is how one can retrieve more details/change exposure in a RAW file.

Got an IR filter for christmast, cant way to see what kind of HRD pic I can do with it!
 

termina3

macrumors 65816
Jul 16, 2007
1,078
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TX
Homerdog:

That. Is. Astounding.

You should start watermarking the 3rd one especially... that's worth some bucks.
 

baby duck monge

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Feb 16, 2003
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Memphis, TN
Let me reiterate what everyone has been saying: that third shot is amazing, homerdog! Perfect use of HDR to get a good view of the WH while still maintaining the fogular integrity (see, I even had to make up a word). VERY nice. And as much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't be sending anyone high res. wallpaper copies (even though I would love to have one myself).
 

taylorwilsdon

macrumors 68000
Nov 16, 2006
1,868
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New York City
Valdore, I have a quicky that I hope you can answer. With the single shot HDR's, what tone mapping settings are you using to achieve that effect? (You don't have to give me the specifics, just ballpark!)
 

SolracSelbor

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Nov 26, 2007
326
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Your first and second pictures are nothing new to me, but your 3rd picture...well, do yourself a favor homerdog, delete the 3rd picture and repost it with a watermark. The worst feeling ive ever had was someone taking one of my only good pictures and reposting it as their own on his website. Luckily, I had an actual copyright on it :). It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, my friend. I doubt everyone here on Mac Rumors are all nice.....
 

SummerBreeze

macrumors 6502a
Sep 11, 2005
593
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Chicago, IL
You can do an HDR with 3 shots. For me though, there is a slight blur in a few of my shots because I moved the camera. It's hardly noticable, even blown up to a 16x20" print.

Thanks for the info. I guess I'll just try taking two series of AEB shots. If the blur is noticeable, I'll just use one set.

Homerdog, that third image is probably the best I've seen! It looks like it should be on the cover of a book. Very inspirational!
 

valdore

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Jan 9, 2007
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Valdore, I have a quicky that I hope you can answer. With the single shot HDR's, what tone mapping settings are you using to achieve that effect? (You don't have to give me the specifics, just ballpark!)

I think I try to use similar tone mapping settings whether from a single RAW or multiple source images.

I usually try to have the Strength, Luminosity, White Clip and Black Clip all set at maximum. With Light Smoothing set to 0. If the image somehow won't let me get away with that (happens fairly often), I'll dial back on those settings as much as needed.


Homerdog, best photo of the White House ever.
 

jeffzoom91

macrumors regular
Jul 25, 2005
201
1
Florida
Shots from this summer

Now, the first one is a but noisey (Taken in Yukon Terriritory, CA)

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The second one the Government house in Victoria, CA

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It's sad really, because these are a little over the top, but some of the above pictures are what I expected from my camera to begin with. I guess I'm dreaming....of a FujiFilm S5...
 

Doylem

macrumors 68040
Dec 30, 2006
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Wherever I hang my hat...
Good stuff, homerdog.... but, as others have said, the White House shot is a bit special. And, yes, it would look good on a card, or a calendar, or the cover of a book (The Wit and Wisdom of George Bush, perhaps... :)).

You've used HDR with some discretion (the way it SHOULD be used, 99% of the time, IMO)... so it's a good picture rather than a good HDR picture... if that makes sense.
 

JNB

macrumors 604
Ok, gonna embarrass myself. Somehow, I don't seem to be getting it. Is it just me, or does the shot just kinda suck, or is this what I should be going for (Original centerpoint included for comparison)? I think I need to find a shaded spot as opposed to full sun or low-light indoors shots, or narrow the range when I shoot those extremes (currently -2/0/+2). Centerpoint shot was 1/250 @ f/10, ISO 100, everything shot in RAW. Tone mapping defaults were used.
 

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termina3

macrumors 65816
Jul 16, 2007
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Ok, gonna embarrass myself. Somehow, I don't seem to be getting it. Is it just me, or does the shot just kinda suck, or is this what I should be going for (Original centerpoint included for comparison)? I think I need to find a shaded spot as opposed to full sun or low-light indoors shots, or narrow the range when I shoot those extremes (currently -2/0/+2). Centerpoint shot was 1/250 @ f/10, ISO 100, everything shot in RAW. Tone mapping defaults were used.

This is a relatively realistic one. Note how, in the HDR version, the white wall isn't blown out and the palm tree is lighter. I wish you could've retained the original sky though... such great color.
 

Doylem

macrumors 68040
Dec 30, 2006
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Wherever I hang my hat...
Ok, gonna embarrass myself. Somehow, I don't seem to be getting it. Is it just me, or does the shot just kinda suck, or is this what I should be going for (Original centerpoint included for comparison)? I think I need to find a shaded spot as opposed to full sun or low-light indoors shots, or narrow the range when I shoot those extremes (currently -2/0/+2). Centerpoint shot was 1/250 @ f/10, ISO 100, everything shot in RAW. Tone mapping defaults were used.

Some shots (uniformly lit... big blue sky, etc) aren't going to be improved by HDR... just as some shots won't be improved with a grey grad, or polariser or other photo technique. Experiment with different lighting conditions (I find twilight shots can work well, for example...).
 

JNB

macrumors 604
This is a relatively realistic one. Note how, in the HDR version, the white wall isn't blown out and the palm tree is lighter. I wish you could've retained the original sky though... such great color.

I agree--and the interesting thing is that these were shot with the "junk" 18-55 kit lens. I really don't know why folks don't like it, I find it actually has some fairly nice qualities.
 

studentmac

macrumors regular
Jul 1, 2007
131
0
Bedfordshire, UK
My very first attempt at an HDR. The positioning isn't as good as I wanted (used the car as a tripod), but I'm quite happy with the end result.

RobertsWayHDR.jpg

Shutter speed: 13secs
Aperture: f8
Focal Length: 32mm
ISO: 200

Created with one RAW file, exposure adjusted in steps of 0.5 in iPhoto to create 7 copies.
 

jeffzoom91

macrumors regular
Jul 25, 2005
201
1
Florida
Nice work Jeff, I really like this one.

First of all...

Thanks

Second:

That photo was taken at 22F wind blowing over 20 knots (this is the summer time mind you) and it was as close to the top of the world as I will ever get.

There is noise in the fullsize version, which is hard to believe, it was taken at like ISO100 or ISO200, with an XTI no less. But I am trying to gather whether or not this software is worth buying.
 

wheezy

macrumors 65816
Apr 7, 2005
1,280
1
Alpine, UT
Late at night in Houston

I'm down in Houston photographing a wedding, that happened yesterday, and the reception was at a really cool Spanish church somewhere downtown, called Paraiso Maravilla. I rented the 10-22mm from Lens Rentals so I would be able to capture the architecture of the building. This is an HDR, but isn't really too much different from the originals.

paraiso_maravilla.jpg


3 RAW, exposure bracketed tripod mounted @ f9.0, 10mm
 

termina3

macrumors 65816
Jul 16, 2007
1,078
1
TX
I'm down in Houston photographing a wedding, that happened yesterday, and the reception was at a really cool Spanish church somewhere downtown, called Paraiso Maravilla.
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Wait... I've lived in Houston my entire life and have NEVER seen this place. Where in downtown is this (streets)? (i.e. are you sure downtown and not some other area?)

Awesome shot btw. Love the lighting and angle.
 

SolracSelbor

macrumors 6502
Nov 26, 2007
326
0
I'm down in Houston photographing a wedding, that happened yesterday, and the reception was at a really cool Spanish church somewhere downtown, called Paraiso Maravilla. I rented the 10-22mm from Lens Rentals so I would be able to capture the architecture of the building. This is an HDR, but isn't really too much different from the originals.

paraiso_maravilla.jpg


3 RAW, exposure bracketed tripod mounted @ f9.0, 10mm

nicely done, id like to see the originals
 
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