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Obi Wan Kenobi

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I favour weighing myself everyday, and recording it on my Apple health app.

When you do this for a while, you find that there are days of aberrant readings - sometimes suddenly higher, sometimes suddenly lower. If this was your reading on a weekly weigh in, you would be highly misled.

The app also gives you an average for the week. That's what you want to work with.

Measuring your waist is also useful, although not many go that far. There are times when the scales have been resistant, but my suits have still felt looser. It's the overall change over time that matters. (and the key part of that sentence is 'over time').
 
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3lbs? Yummy. 100 points. :(
That's what they claimed. Looked it too. I suspect the actual weight was a bit under when cooked to medium rare and the bone removed. I like a good ribeye, too, but it's too rich and leaves me feeling less than happy.
 

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Thank you for the good wishes and insight! :p

Not sure of your location, but just pointing out a fact.

Weight is probably the leading cause of death in humans in the Western world.

Not sure of your location, but Americans as so F-A-T it's not funny!!

If you think 20 lbs isn't much, go t a gym and grab a 20 lb weight and carry it around for even 3 minutes and then you'll see the harm your causing your body.

Fortunately, losing 20-30 lbs like you probably need to isn't an impossible task.

Just cut back on calories and empty calories, and shoot for losing maybe 1 lb a week, and the holidays you'll be the life of the party!

Best of luck!

(Coming from someone who has lost 60 lbs in the last 18 months...)

;-)
 

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You did’nt. :eek:
I did! I had no regrets either. I'm not sure if I would have enjoyed it had it not been aged but still prime. I've done a 28 oz tomahawk ribeye, prime, not aged before. Still very enjoyable.
 

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214 lbs at 5'9" is overweight!

Try dropping at least 20 lbs and then check your blood pressure and pulse again...

Good luck!
I couldn’t believe what my ideal weight is supposed to be. I’ve been exercising and doing the no sugar/low carb thing and someone asked about my goal weight. So I said well when I was just 220, I felt fat so maybe 200. I then looked it up. Damn! I’m supposed to be like 170. That’s seems mighty light to me.
 

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Not sure of your location, but just pointing out a fact.

Weight is probably the leading cause of death in humans in the Western world.

Not sure of your location, but Americans as so F-A-T it's not funny!!

If you think 20 lbs isn't much, go t a gym and grab a 20 lb weight and carry it around for even 3 minutes and then you'll see the harm your causing your body.

Fortunately, losing 20-30 lbs like you probably need to isn't an impossible task.

Just cut back on calories and empty calories, and shoot for losing maybe 1 lb a week, and the holidays you'll be the life of the party!

Best of luck!

(Coming from someone who has lost 60 lbs in the last 18 months...)

;-)

Good post, @Texas_Toast ! (Ha, that rhymes!)

Just to add some fine print, 5' 9" tall and 214 lbs is not a problem if you're a bodybuilder and you're at 10% body fat. But yes, otherwise, it is definitely on the heavy side. These days, BMI is considered obsolete; it is more useful to look at body fat %.

Not only does the excess weight strain the heart, because it has to work harder (pump faster) to move the same body around to do tasks, but it also strains the back and all your load-bearing bones and joints (esp. knee and Sacroiliac (pelvis) joints).

It's like carrying around a 20-30 lb backpack of crap that serves no useful purpose.

@Huntn , I had written a detailed post in this thread a long time ago, with suggestions for you. Perhaps, you missed it, or perhaps it didn't interest you, but to summarize, I recommend high-intensity weight training (to the extent that is safe per your doctor). That will get the excess weight off in no time and improve your basic mobility, among numerous other benefits.
 
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I did! I had no regrets either. I'm not sure if I would have enjoyed it had it not been aged but still prime. I've done a 28 oz tomahawk ribeye, prime, not aged before. Still very enjoyable.
I did that on occasion with plate size prime rib, but now I shoot for 4 oz, and lots more salad. :)
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Good post, @Texas_Toast ! (Ha, that rhymes!)

Just to add some fine print, 5' 9" tall and 214 lbs is not a problem if you're a bodybuilder and you're at 10% body fat. But yes, otherwise, it is definitely on the heavy side. These days, BMI is considered obsolete; it is more useful to look at body fat %.

Not only does the excess weight strain the heart, because it has to work harder (pump faster) to move the same body around to do tasks, but it also strains the back and all your load-bearing bones and joints (esp. knee and Sacroiliac (pelvis) joints).

It's like carrying around a 20-30 lb backpack of crap that serves no useful purpose.

@Huntn , I had written a detailed post in this thread a long time ago, with suggestions for you. Perhaps, you missed it, or perhaps it didn't interest you, but to summarize, I recommend high-intensity weight training (to the extent that is safe per your doctor). That will get the excess weight off in no time and improve your basic mobility, among numerous other benefits.
I think I did see that, but I’m shooting for something sustainable and am not looking to build muscles by weight lifting. As is, I swim 3 times a week, about 1hr20 min, plus do light weight lifting to support my swimming. As is, I flirt with repetitive injuries. I come out with a cardio workout and if I can believe it, Fitbit says I am burning 500+ calories a session. I view this as a valid effort. The rest depends on my diet, which I have shifted significantly. Time will tell if that is enough. If not I’ll tell the fitness god to sit on it. :D
 

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Most of my success in losing 60lbs over the last year and a half was all due to a spreadsheet I created.

If it goes in my mouth, then I first count the calories and put it into my spreadsheet.

Some simple truths about weight...

1.) Living being consume energy.

2.) Without calories a person would eventually die.

3.) If you consume more calories than your body can use, it stores that extra energy as fat.

4.) Exercise burns calories, but isn't a total solution. (see #3)

5.) If you consume less calories than your body needs, then you will lose weight.

6.) Whether you are trying to gain weight, maintain weight, or lose weight, you should always focus on EATING HEALTHY!!

7.) If you keep track of your daily caloric intake, and your weekly weight, you can start making *informed* decisions about your DIET and EXERCISE to impact your weight one way or the other.

8.) Experts recommend only losing 1-2lbs per week. (Anything more is either water weight loss, and is also likely hard on your health, and not sustainable.)

9.) If you track your calories each day in a spreadsheet, and your weight on a weekly basis, then you can start catering what you eat to meet your caloric and weight goals and still eat healthy and delicious food.

10.) Counting calories in a spreadsheet helps you to see WHICH FOODS give you the most/least bang for your buck!

When I'm starving and quickly approaching my daily caloric max, I turn to things like: apple (100 cal), carrots (35 cal), bok choy (10 cal), squash (30 cal), orange (70 cal), banana (100 cal), can of tuna in water (100 cal), and so on.

11.) Reduce carbs, reduce processed grains/foods, eliminate sugars, eat tons of fruits and vegetables, and eat lots of healthy proteins (e.g. tuna in water, chicken w/o skill, fish, etc)

12.) Have a "fat day" once a week or once every two weeks depending on your body and progress.

(I often lose more weight a week or two after I have a Little Caesar's pizza one Friday than if I just starve myself for weeks on end! Having that "fat day" tricks my body/metabolism into thinking all is well and that I'm not secretly starving to death on a desert island!)

13.) Read up on "planks"

14.) Read up on exercises which use your own body weight.

15.) There's lots more, I suppose, but these things above have worked for me, and I believe them to be pretty solid advice. (And they have worked well for someone who CANNOT exercise much due to a bad knee, bad back, etc.)

Good luck, and know you can reach your health and weight goals with a good game plan, regular feedback/data, and perserverance!!

:)
 

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I think I did see that, but I’m shooting for something sustainable and am not looking to build muscles by weight lifting. As is, I swim 3 times a week, about 1hr20 min, plus do light weight lifting to support my swimming. As is, I flirt with repetitive injuries. I come out with a cardio workout and if I can believe it, Fitbit says I am burning 500+ calories a session. I view this as a valid effort. The rest depends on my diet, which I have shifted significantly. Time will tell if that is enough. If not I’ll tell the fitness god to sit on it. :D

Gotcha. Yeah, if you don't enjoy it, you won't stick with it, so best to do whatever you enjoy doing. Swimming and light weights can be enough; then, it just comes down to diet to make sure you're not undoing the effort in the pool.

Keep us posted !
 
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Most of my success in losing 60lbs over the last year and a half was all due to a spreadsheet I created.

If it goes in my mouth, then I first count the calories and put it into my spreadsheet.

Some simple truths about weight...

1.) Living being consume energy.

2.) Without calories a person would eventually die.

3.) If you consume more calories than your body can use, it stores that extra energy as fat.

4.) Exercise burns calories, but isn't a total solution. (see #3)

5.) If you consume less calories than your body needs, then you will lose weight.

6.) Whether you are trying to gain weight, maintain weight, or lose weight, you should always focus on EATING HEALTHY!!

7.) If you keep track of your daily caloric intake, and your weekly weight, you can start making *informed* decisions about your DIET and EXERCISE to impact your weight one way or the other.

8.) Experts recommend only losing 1-2lbs per week. (Anything more is either water weight loss, and is also likely hard on your health, and not sustainable.)

9.) If you track your calories each day in a spreadsheet, and your weight on a weekly basis, then you can start catering what you eat to meet your caloric and weight goals and still eat healthy and delicious food.

10.) Counting calories in a spreadsheet helps you to see WHICH FOODS give you the most/least bang for your buck!

When I'm starving and quickly approaching my daily caloric max, I turn to things like: apple (100 cal), carrots (35 cal), bok choy (10 cal), squash (30 cal), orange (70 cal), banana (100 cal), can of tuna in water (100 cal), and so on.

11.) Reduce carbs, reduce processed grains/foods, eliminate sugars, eat tons of fruits and vegetables, and eat lots of healthy proteins (e.g. tuna in water, chicken w/o skill, fish, etc)

12.) Have a "fat day" once a week or once every two weeks depending on your body and progress.

(I often lose more weight a week or two after I have a Little Caesar's pizza one Friday than if I just starve myself for weeks on end! Having that "fat day" tricks my body/metabolism into thinking all is well and that I'm not secretly starving to death on a desert island!)

13.) Read up on "planks"

14.) Read up on exercises which use your own body weight.

15.) There's lots more, I suppose, but these things above have worked for me, and I believe them to be pretty solid advice. (And they have worked well for someone who CANNOT exercise much due to a bad knee, bad back, etc.)

Good luck, and know you can reach your health and weight goals with a good game plan, regular feedback/data, and perserverance!!

:)

Yeah, that's a pretty terrific summary, obviously with regards to your (not you-your, but all-of-you/anyone :D), you need to factor in general health, weight, age, existing issues (knees, etc.), but those are also subject to change - like you pointed out, when you improve your strength/stamina and reduce the amount of weight you're carrying, you'll be surprised at how much more physical you can be.
 

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Gotcha. Yeah, if you don't enjoy it, you won't stick with it, so best to do whatever you enjoy doing. Swimming and light weights can be enough; then, it just comes down to diet to make sure you're not undoing the effort in the pool.

Keep us posted !
This is probably obvious, but when young, exercise is huge for controlling weight, but when older, diet has a larger impact. I’ve proven this for at least me. :)
 
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This is probably obvious, but then young, exercise is huge for controlling weight, but when older, diet has a larger impact. I’ve proven this for at least me. :)

This is probably the one most accurate and succinct posts I read about ones related health. I actually just attended an eight hour training course about Officer related mental health, and one of the topics discussed about was the difference of young officers who are more prone to be energetic, more assertive and even generally have better attitudes because they retain regular physical fitness alternatives with a healthy lifestyle compared to older Officers who may be out of shape or do not regularly excerise, which might exhibit more signs of fatigue, poor diet, higher stress levels, lack of assertiveness, ect.

To the point, I think when you have a younger demographic, it is about being more physically fit (Including diet) and taking care of oneself, but I think those roles can be reversed when you’re older, where you have to focus on your diet more and might be harder to lose the weight for someone in their mid to late 40s or 50s. Of course it’s also important to retain natural stamina and energy, sleep is just as equally important in the mixture Of diet and exercise.

In my Experiences, I find older generation of officers tend to be more set in their ways if you will, and they don’t want to incorporate change, as younger officers I know even work out before or after their shift starts and then put in 12 hour shifts on top of that. That just goes to show you that there are the differences of energy and stamina levels compared to older officers who may not care as much, which adversely might be affected because of their overall health, sleep deprivation, age, stresses, ect.

I’m young, in which I’m hoping that I can carry all these good habits I formed over the years as I continue to age in L.E, which I know will long-term impact me positively {on and off} Duty.
 
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This is probably the one most accurate and succinct posts I read about ones related health. I actually just attended an eight hour training course about Officer related mental health, and one of the topics discussed about was the difference of young officers who are more prone to be energetic, more assertive and even generally have better attitudes because they retain regular physical fitness alternatives with a healthy lifestyle compared to older Officers who may be out of shape or do not regularly excerise, which might exhibit more signs of fatigue, poor diet, higher stress levels, lack of assertiveness, ect.

To the point, I think when you have a younger demographic, it is about being more physically fit (Including diet) and taking care of oneself, but I think those roles can be reversed when you’re older, where you have to focus on your diet more and might be harder to lose the weight for someone in their mid to late 40s or 50s. Of course it’s also important to retain natural stamina and energy, sleep is just as equally important in the mixture Of diet and exercise.

In my Experiences, I find older generation of officers tend to be more set in their ways if you will, and they don’t want to incorporate change, as younger officers I know even work out before or after their shift starts and then put in 12 hour shifts on top of that. That just goes to show you that there are the differences of energy and stamina levels compared to older officers who may not care as much, which adversely might be affected because of their overall health, sleep deprivation, age, stresses, ect.

I’m young, in which I’m hoping that I can carry all these good habits I formed over the years as I continue to age in L.E, which I know will long-term impact me positively {on and off} Duty.
Thanks for sharing. The fact is when you are young it’s much easier to lose weight with some fairly simple exercise and as you get older it becomes much harder and more of a challenge. From ages 18-40 a simple exercise routine (running, 3 times a week, 5 miles), I could eat whatever I wanted, weight 170lb. Knees, back start hurting, metabolism slows. Aging sucks! Now I’m working out devoting 3 times as much time to exercise, and it has minimal impact on my weight control and I don’t stuff my mouth all day long. Really surprised that I’m overweight.

This morning I had a bowl of cereal with almond milk, after working out I came home and ate a banana, hard bowled egg, and a couple of grapes, and drank a glass of V8 juice (1 serving of vegetables, 1 serving fruit- it says that on the bottle! ;) Dinner has yet to be determined. For desert i’ll probably eat a 1/2 cup of rice pudding or some ice cream.
 

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Thanks for sharing. The fact is when you are young it’s much easier to lose weight with some fairly simple exercise and as you get older it becomes much harder and more of a challenge. From ages 18-40 a simple exercise routine (running, 3 times a week, 5 miles), I could eat whatever I wanted, weight 170lb. Knees, back start hurting, metabolism slows. Aging sucks! Now I’m working out devoting 3 times as much time to exercise, and it has minimal impact on my weight control and I don’t stuff my mouth all day long. Really surprised that I’m overweight.

This morning I had a bowl of cereal with almond milk, after working out I came home and ate a banana, hard bowled egg, and a couple of grapes, and drank a glass of V8 juice (1 serving of vegetables, 1 serving fruit- it says that on the bottle! ;) Dinner has yet to be determined. For desert i’ll probably eat a 1/2 cup of rice pudding or some ice cream.

There's certainly some metabolism shift as we age, but I'd assume there's also much more activity when we're younger for many people, unless you happen to live a very active lifestyle (when you're older). There are plenty of obese people between 20-30 years old (and even much younger), so while older folks are likely more prone towards weight gain, it's not like being 20 is a "gimme".

I was astounded at the chubby present in the folks at Universal over the last few days, I'm talking kids, 20-somethings, lots of "Dad bodies" (present company excluded :D).
 
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There's certainly some metabolism shift as we age, but I'd assume there's also much more activity when we're younger for many people, unless you happen to live a very active lifestyle (when you're older). There are plenty of obese people between 20-30 years old (and even much younger), so while older folks are likely more prone towards weight gain, it's not like being 20 is a "gimme".

I was astounded at the chubby present in the folks at Universal over the last few days, I'm talking kids, 20-somethings, lots of "Dad bodies" (present company excluded :D).
Involvement in electronic entertainment, social media, lack of exercise, and poor eating habits (thanks low-fat Fed Govt!), the rise of fast food, some people have trouble affording eating healthy.
 
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This is probably obvious, but when young, exercise is huge for controlling weight, but when older, diet has a larger impact. I’ve proven this for at least me. :)

Yup, I do get that. Metabolism (partly due to lower testosterone levels) declines with aging. Bones get weaker, muscles atrophy.

At age 30, I was 210 lbs (6 ft tall), with a big belly and a ballooned face. I lost roughly 55 lbs in about 3 months by doing the following:

- 800 calories intake per day (5 meals)
- 1 hr intense weight training (7 days a week)
- 2 to 3 hrs cardio per week

But, I was a fitness junkie back then, and really knew what I was doing in the gym and in the kitchen (was studying to become a trainer).

Ate nothing but chicken breast, brown rice, ON protein shakes, almond milk, Quaker old fashioned oats, egg whites for those 3 months.

Yes, I lost 55 lbs in 3 months. No typos :)
 
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Thanks for sharing. The fact is when you are young it’s much easier to lose weight with some fairly simple exercise and as you get older it becomes much harder and more of a challenge. From ages 18-40 a simple exercise routine (running, 3 times a week, 5 miles), I could eat whatever I wanted, weight 170lb. Knees, back start hurting, metabolism slows. Aging sucks! Now I’m working out devoting 3 times as much time to exercise, and it has minimal impact on my weight control and I don’t stuff my mouth all day long. Really surprised that I’m overweight.

This morning I had a bowl of cereal with almond milk, after working out I came home and ate a banana, hard bowled egg, and a couple of grapes, and drank a glass of V8 juice (1 serving of vegetables, 1 serving fruit- it says that on the bottle! ;) Dinner has yet to be determined. For desert i’ll probably eat a 1/2 cup of rice pudding or some ice cream.

Keep up the good work. I know you mentioned you’re 65, and I give you a lot of credit, because I don’t know too many 65-year-olds who will be willing to make the commitment that you do. Seems you’re very mindful of your diet intake and physical self. I always say when it comes to physical fitness or any type of exercise regiment, {Know your limits}. Know what your body can handle and factor that in with age, weight, any health concerns, etc. As far as eating, moderation is always key.

SomeThing else I want to touch on that I think many (Including me) seem to forget about, is rest is just as equally important as well as physical exercise. I tend to sometimes “Over do it” , part of that is probably because I over-challenge myself, but I also have to come to realization that taking a day off is important for muscle growth and body rejuvenation.

Speaking of knowing your limits, it’s 96° here today, getting ready for a 4 mile run, but I made sure I am plenty hydrated and ready to go. (Will try to utilize the shade as much as possible.)
 

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I've had grandparents 30 years his senior who'd go jogging for miles at a time at a brisk pace. There's some genetics involved, but in general and to make it very short, adults who are active well into their life generally are healthier than their peers, their bone density isn't as affected, their cardiovascular health is better, and, of course, they feel and look younger as a result.

It's not uncommon for a 50 YO individual to look and feel younger because they eat well and exercise. Then you see 20-30 year olds who look like their in their mid 40s because of the crap they eat and do.
 
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Keep up the good work. I know you mentioned you’re 65, and I give you a lot of credit, because I don’t know too many 65-year-olds who will be willing to make the commitment that you do. Seems you’re very mindful of your diet intake and physical self. I always say when it comes to physical fitness or any type of exercise regiment, {Know your limits}. Know what your body can handle and factor that in with age, weight, any health concerns, etc. As far as eating, moderation is always key.

SomeThing else I want to touch on that I think many (Including me) seem to forget about, is rest is just as equally important as well as physical exercise. I tend to sometimes “Over do it” , part of that is probably because I over-challenge myself, but I also have to come to realization that taking a day off is important for muscle growth and body rejuvenation.

Speaking of knowing your limits, it’s 96° here today, getting ready for a 4 mile run, but I made sure I am plenty hydrated and ready to go. (Will try to utilize the shade as much as possible.)
I used to love running n the 90s (degrees) no stink’n heat was going to stop me. :) I drank about a quart of water before starting. :)
 

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Early morning workout:

I’m more of a “Heavy weight” lifter. With extensive training & experience, it’s taking me almost 10 years Plus to achieve lifting this lifting weight, and I Initially started at 30 pounds, and migrated to up to 70 pounds, which I primarily use for deadlifts, overhead and butterfly reps/curls. I’m hoping to graduate to 75lbs in 2019.

The curl-Bar is my favorite. So versatile in what you can do with it, adding and reducing weight in using it in various positions. (The curl bar pictured is 180 lbs at full max).

I do all my workouts right at home, I can save more time, less distractions and I have my own workout room where I do not have to drive to a gym.

Then comes the protein after the fact.

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