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I really like this electrolyte powder. Not only does it give you the necessary electrolytes, but has no artificials, food coloring or Maltodextrin. I personally use just for muscle recovery after A strenuous workout, but I never use it for my off-days.

It’s Kinda pricey at $30, but a little bit goes a long way. Available on Amazon FYI.
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This Dr Berg sure has a lot of people posting a lot of great things about him and his concoctions. Just beware, the supplement market is TOTALLY UNREGULATED. They could be putting anything in that from anywhere.

I have, FOR ME, a general No Supplements rule. I stick to OTC vitamins and NSAIDs. The last thing I will do is take a supplement advertised online. And there are supplements for literally ANYTHING you can name.

Just be careful out there. There are a lot of people making a lot of money selling garbage that doesn't help a damn thing, and also selling stuff that bio-accumulates and can cause issues later, and even some that are downright nasty.
 
Eggs are still a crucial part of my diet. I seriously have steak and eggs 5/7 days a week with everything just to add the calories and for the necessary source of protein. I think I average about four cartons of eggs in every seven days. There were some days I was averaging about a dozen eggs a day on my bodybuilding bulking diet, but I’m nowhere near that amount as of right now.

Anyways, egg whites if you’re on a ‘cut’, are something that would be a massive part of your diet, but if your ‘off-season, I consume the entire egg. I prefer the free-range’ eggs’, but that’s for another topic.
 
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That's how I was on the treadmill. At first I could barely do anything on even slow speeds. Eventually my legs would hurt well before I would even be slightly out of breath.

I wasn't going to let that stepper beat me. I kept going, day after day, minute after minute. To do an hour at the levels I was at was blowing peoples minds, but I started hanging on to the thing after doing a few minutes at something like 2. Keep it up, but treadmill is bad on the joints. Depending on your age, cross-train, swim, bike, walk, hike. Save Your Knees! You will need them later. Ice is NICE!!!
 
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Sugars are like heroin to the brain. It's hard to get off the sugar wagon. And it's insidious. Foreigners are almsot always blown away with how much sugar is in the 'American diet'. I remember someone saying 'Sugar in peanut butter? Why?'.
Yea sugar and salt are mostly ridiculous in the US. Once in a while there is an item with a decent low version, but it's mostly zero which tastes like crap or 1 million. Like when they had Pepsi Edge with 40% the sugar. That was the one Pepsi I actually liked. Regular tastes nastily sweet to me. But of course like every other food or drink I ever liked, they ended it :'(
 
I wasn't going to let that stepper beat me. I kept going, day after day, minute after minute. To do an hour at the levels I was at was blowing peoples minds, but I started hanging on to the thing after doing a few minutes at something like 2. Keep it up, but treadmill is bad on the joints. Depending on your age, cross-train, swim, bike, walk, hike. Save Your Knees! You will need them later. Ice is NICE!!!
Yea I liked it better to try for half an hour until I couldn't at first, and then once I could do it at the low speed, I would turn it up a little each time until I could do a half hour again.
 
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Eggs are still a crucial part of my diet. I seriously have steak and eggs and with everything just to add the calories and for the necessary source of protein. I think I average about four cartons of eggs in every seven days. There were some days I was averaging about a dozen eggs a day on my bodybuilding bulking diet, but I’m nowhere near that amount as of right now.

Anyways, egg whites if you’re on a ‘cut’, are something that would be a massive part of your diet, but if your ‘off-season, I consume the entire egg. I prefer the free-range’ eggs’, but that’s for another topic.

Good for you. Most men can't take that much protein and cholesterol. I had an issue, unrelated to exercising, and was sent for a CTA. It's a timed heart CAT scan. They looked at everything in my heart at the time. The cardiologist said that he was shocked that my vessels showed no narrowing at all. I had no heart damage, and he said I should live to be 100. There are stories of 'meat and potatoes' men who have 'the big one', and don't survive. So, if you want to go out with a quick crushing heart attack, keep it up. For normal human beings, eating that much red meat is not healthy, and eggs just adds more fuel for the formation of nasty fatty deposits in and around the heart. If you are lucky, you won't stroke out and be a vegetable for the rest of your life. Those plaques that form in your heart and blood vessels do break off, and migrate to narrow places and often get stuck there. THAT is what a heart attack is, a vessel is blocked, and the muscle can't get fuel to live. Same with a stroke, something breaks lose and migrates to the brain, starving it of fuel, blood, and it dies. And cholesterol lowering drugs have been linked to problems with compartment syndrome, and massive muscle mass loss, and a whole list of other badness. (I wouldn't take them if I was prescribed them. They are that potentially dangerous for active people) I also gave up milk, and most dairy, except for cheese (what's life without cheese) and yogurt, for the probiotics.

Red meat also contains hundreds of other chemicals, pesticides, hormones, herbicides, bacteria, and just a whole lot of stuff I don't want to eat. Plus the massive tons of vegitables we feed animals for a pound of meat? I'd rather eat the veggies myself! I think giving up most meat has been key, for me. I'm not vegan, I don't think I could do that, but vegetarian isn't so bad. *shrug* But if that diet works for you, good for you.
 
One of my passions is food, I just love eating. And I think one of the natural habitats that I found myself with bodybuilding, was I was eating as much as I wanted to in order for the ‘Gains’. At some point, I was eating almost 2 pounds of meat a day (Yup, my grocery bill was huge!) just to put on 20 pounds not for competition, but to put on the bulk when I was working out five days a week. [Unfortunately, the pandemic halted that, but I plan on migrating back to the gym hopefully sooner than later.]

Anyways, I did learn something interesting from another bodybuilder, Which I was consuming a large amounts of chicken Cutlets on a daily basis, and what I didn’t know, was chicken actually naturally will bloat you (I was consuming a gallon of water a day), and if I could change anything that was in my diet, I would’ve consumed more fresh fish, which eliminates the bloating, and you achieve more natural vitamins/minerals your body, and you don’t hold as much water as you would with chicken.

Which, I love fish, and king salmon is by far my favorite fish to grill or pan fry, but is very pricey at ~$4 a LB in my area.
 
One of my passions is food, I just love eating. And I think one of the natural habitats that I found myself with bodybuilding, was I was eating as much as I wanted to in order for the ‘Gains’. At some point, I was eating almost 2 pounds of meat a day (Yup, my grocery bill was huge!) just to put on 20 pounds not for competition, but to put on the bulk when I was working out five days a week. [Unfortunately, the pandemic halted that, but I plan on migrating back to the gym hopefully sooner than later.]

Anyways, I did learn something interesting from another bodybuilder, Which I was consuming a large amounts of chicken Cutlets on a daily basis, and what I didn’t know, was chicken actually naturally will bloat you (I was consuming a gallon of water a day), and if I could change anything that was in my diet, I would’ve consumed more fresh fish, which eliminates the bloating, and you achieve more natural vitamins/minerals your body, and you don’t hold as much water as you would with chicken.

Which, I love fish, and king salmon is by far my favorite fish to grill or pan fry, but is very pricey at ~$4 a LB in my area.

See, that's the problem with listening to people when they say nonsense like 'eating chicken causes bloat'. I found just as many nonsense links in Google that say TO eat chicken to avoid 'the bloat' as I did telling people to avoid it.

It's this kind of dietary nonsense that floods people and they don't know what to believe.

Remember when coffee was good for you? Live long with the effects of coffee! Coffee beans have 'magical powers to extend life'. Then it was bad, then good, then bad? Is it good again?

Remember when eating fish was good for you? Then it was bad, then good, then bad. Is it good again? (One thing most people agree on, farm raised fish is something to be avoided)

It's like the whole 'bread is bad' thing. People were shocked that I didn't give up bread because every source of 'facts' was spewing the 'truth' that BREAD IS BAD. Don't eat bread! Bread is poison!

Oh, and red meat is good for you because the Cattleman's Beef Association wants to sell more beef.

Pretty soon those 'facts' become things that people live their lives around.

Red meat is a HUGE waste of resources and the body doesn't want to eat all that much of it. Humans were designed as omnivores, meant to be eating lots of grains and greens. It's why humans never evolved the tearing teeth of a wolf. Veggies don't need those kinds of teeth. We have mashing and grinding teeth like a cow because veggies and grains need that kind of chewing action to process them for digestion. Those same teeth don't work well on tough meat. It's pretty funny that back when I was using more supplements because 'everyone did them', I was more bloated from the supplements than the food I was eating.

Swallowing more air (hot air) of some of these claims will bloat you more than eating chicken will.

Have a 'balanced' dies, and that doesn't mean as much red meat as white meat. (The only way chicken is going to bloat you is if you don't cook it, and the food poisoning is going to help you lose weight pretty fast)

Here's a Today article. They are a go to for facts for me (yeah, right) that says EAT CHICKEN to avoid 'the bloat'. Oh, layered with Papaya. A fruit. Amazing...

If you eat a 'balanced diet' and avoid over processed foods (junk food, my favorite salami, etc) you will be doing great for your body, and the environment. There are better ways to get protein. Vegans seem to have a handle on it. They don't need to eat any meat to maintain their protein levels. Be careful where you get nutrition information. Heck, even what I've said too. It worked for me, it might not work for anyone else. That's why I try to speak in generalities. Food is fuel. Madison Avenue loves to push the latest greatest 'food' on us. Restaurants LOVE to push their hot mess of 'food' on people. There are good ones, and far too many bad ones. And friends where ever you find them will feed you bad advice. Nothing can save you from them except yourself. Bread is bad, if that's all you eat. Chicken is bad, if that's all you eat. Red meat isn't necessary for a human to eat. It's not something we should over eat by any stretch.

Exercise. Food is fuel. Balanced diet. Avoid alcohol. Avoid sodas (overly processed much?) Get some sleep!
 
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Which, I love fish, and king salmon is by far my favorite fish to grill or pan fry, but is very pricey at ~$4 a LB in my area.


Holy smokes, $4/lb? That's incredibly cheap! Try to score some fresh snapper or flounder here, it's $15-20/lb. Even the fresh, line caught sockeye it usually $12-14/lb.

$4 is cheaper than chicken!
 
See, that's the problem with listening to people when they say nonsense like 'eating chicken causes bloat'. I found just as many nonsense links in Google that say TO eat chicken to avoid 'the bloat' as I did telling people to avoid it.

It's this kind of dietary nonsense that floods people and they don't know what to believe.

Remember when coffee was good for you? Live long with the effects of coffee! Coffee beans have 'magical powers to extend life'. Then it was bad, then good, then bad? Is it good again?

Remember when eating fish was good for you? Then it was bad, then good, then bad. Is it good again? (One thing most people agree on, farm raised fish is something to be avoided)

It's like the whole 'bread is bad' thing. People were shocked that I didn't give up bread because every source of 'facts' was spewing the 'truth' that BREAD IS BAD. Don't eat bread! Bread is poison!

Oh, and red meat is good for you because the Cattleman's Beef Association wants to sell more beef.

Pretty soon those 'facts' become things that people live their lives around.

Red meat is a HUGE waste of resources and the body doesn't want to eat all that much of it. Humans were designed as omnivores, meant to be eating lots of grains and greens. It's why humans never evolved the tearing teeth of a wolf. Veggies don't need those kinds of teeth. We have mashing and grinding teeth like a cow because veggies and grains need that kind of chewing action to process them for digestion. Those same teeth don't work well on tough meat. It's pretty funny that back when I was using more supplements because 'everyone did them', I was more bloated from the supplements than the food I was eating.

Swallowing more air (hot air) of some of these claims will bloat you more than eating chicken will.

Have a 'balanced' dies, and that doesn't mean as much red meat as white meat. (The only way chicken is going to bloat you is if you don't cook it, and the food poisoning is going to help you lose weight pretty fast)

Here's a Today article. They are a go to for facts for me (yeah, right) that says EAT CHICKEN to avoid 'the bloat'. Oh, layered with Papaya. A fruit. Amazing...

If you eat a 'balanced diet' and avoid over processed foods (junk food, my favorite salami, etc) you will be doing great for your body, and the environment. There are better ways to get protein. Vegans seem to have a handle on it. They don't need to eat any meat to maintain their protein levels. Be careful where you get nutrition information. Heck, even what I've said too. It worked for me, it might not work for anyone else. That's why I try to speak in generalities. Food is fuel. Madison Avenue loves to push the latest greatest 'food' on us. Restaurants LOVE to push their hot mess of 'food' on people. There are good ones, and far too many bad ones. And friends where ever you find them will feed you bad advice. Nothing can save you from them except yourself. Bread is bad, if that's all you eat. Chicken is bad, if that's all you eat. Red meat isn't necessary for a human to eat. It's not something we should over eat by any stretch.

Exercise. Food is fuel. Balanced diet. Avoid alcohol. Avoid sodas (overly processed much?) Get some sleep!

You bring up a lot of good points and it’s difficult to refute that, because there’s so many contradictory ‘tellings’ of what you should and shouldn’t eat and what it does/doesn’t do with your digestive system. I know when I was eating chicken excessively as I mentioned for bulking, I felt bloated, (and that wasn’t with much Himalayan pink sea salt), aside from the gallon of water that I would consume. I think it’s important remember to, foods might have a different interaction with everybody how they digest. The reason I mention cooked egg whites above two, that’s a fast digesting proteins, which is ideal in between meals or as a quick option before a weightlifting session.

Aside from that, Chicken was definitely My main source of my protein content, but I would eat fish, red meat, eggs, also. Chicken just been most viable source of protein and some of the leanest when you’re bulking. But if I could do one thing over again and eliminate from my diet, was I was using a ‘Mass weight gainer‘ and mixing that with a shake that I would drink daily to put on the Weight, and that will bloat you, but it certainly works.

And I rarely, if ever consume alcohol. I don’t drink sugary soda. No candy ever.

my passion is weightlifting, but if there’s one form of exercise that I could commit to every day, and that’s just walking. To me, aside from all the things that we can recommend to each other in terms of ‘staying fit‘, there’s nothing betting than walking with fresh air.
 
You bring up a lot of good points and it’s difficult to refute that, because there’s so many contradictory ‘tellings’ of what you should and shouldn’t eat and what it does/doesn’t do with your digestive system. I know when I was eating chicken excessively as I mentioned for bulking, I felt bloated, (and that wasn’t with much Himalayan pink sea salt), aside from the gallon of water that I would consume. I think it’s important remember to, foods might have a different interaction with everybody how they digest. The reason I mention cooked egg whites above two, that’s a fast digesting proteins, which is ideal in between meals or as a quick option before a weightlifting session.

Aside from that, Chicken was definitely My main source of my protein content, but I would eat fish, red meat, eggs, also. Chicken just been most viable source of protein and some of the leanest when you’re bulking. But if I could do one thing over again and eliminate from my diet, was I was using a ‘Mass weight gainer‘ and mixing that with a shake that I would drink daily to put on the Weight, and that will bloat you, but it certainly works.

And I rarely, if ever consume alcohol. I don’t drink sugary soda. No candy ever.

my passion is weightlifting, but if there’s one form of exercise that I could commit to every day, and that’s just walking. To me, aside from all the things that we can recommend to each other in terms of ‘staying fit‘, there’s nothing betting than walking with fresh air.

I understand some of what you say. The idea that if you hear the same 'stuff' from different people, and it becomes 'fact'. 'Chicken bloats', 'Chicken bloats', 'Chicken bloats', over and over in different verbiage, and yet the same thing, and then people start 'feeling' bloated, and it's a self-reinforcing belief. Like the whole 'bread is bad'. I heard people lamenting how 'sick' they felt after eating a sub sandwich, because it had *GASP* bread. As if ONE sub roll would torpedo their whole week!

But why do I have such a dim view of supplements? I had a friend in high school whose father was a minister, and they sold Shaklee. At the time, they had a protein powder that tasted fantastic. It was very addicting. It mixed well with orange juice, and milk too. I was taking the 'recommended servings' once a day. I convinced myself that I 'felt better'. I was in high school. Physical education was mandatory, and I rode and played local neighborhood football.

Then the unexpected happened.

I had excruciating pain in my lower back. OMG!!! It was the worst pain I had ever had, ever. I was rushed to the hospital and the doc put their heads together and decided I had a kidney stone. They started talking surgery, this was in the kidney stone dark ages because people actually went in and tried to remove them, and the shock must have scared the stone out of my body. Then they started wondering how I got a stone. I was skinny, I was healthy, I wasn't in a group where doctors would think 'He's going to have a kidney stone', until they looked at the powder I was drinking. It was heavy with minerals. The same minerals that kidney stones are made of. The excess minierals are filtered out in the kidneys and are usually flushed out, but do precipitate out and form spiky crystal balls and chunks. The spikes are what cause the pain, ripping through sensitive tissue in the kidneys and urethra. YIKES! I was told that stuff was a 'Kidney stone in a jug'. That it didn't need anywhere near as much of those minerals as it had, and that taking it at even half the recommended amount could cause problems. I passed the stone, the closest thing to the feeling of giving birth (thanks mom) and drank cranberry juice for months after. So, supplements aren't benign.

Yeah, 'rapid weight gain' supplements are nasty too. You should probably have a cardiac workup and see how much plaque you have probably built up with the diet you've had over the years. Having a stroke would really suck. Best case, it's the 'big one', the lights go out, the floor approaches, and you never feel it. Worst case, you can't talk, or walk, or control one side of your body, or one side of your face. And heart attacks can be worse. The 'big one' hits,a nd you feel flushed, a crushing pain, can't catch your breath, the floor is coming fast, and *lights out*. It would be harder to survive the big one. Surgery after surgery, and drugs and crazy tubing and a life that is a shadow of what you were. Not able to walk more than a few feet. No exercise, nothing but sitting, unable to actually participate in a semblence of a life.

Funny, as I've gotten older, I think of the coming end. We decide how we are going to die every day of our lives. I can hope mine is quick and painless. I quit smoking, thank Ford, and do try to keep myself fit. I'm in far better shape than my dad at this same age. Another thing, I had a college prof that was a body builder out of school. He also ran the campus body building club. He was BIG! He was REALLY BIG! People accused him of being a 'victim of modern chemistry', and he vociferously denied any accusations. I was looking up the old school, and tripped on his name. He was still there. I went to his blog. HAH!!! He was LYING! He admitted to using steroids 'for many years'. He admitted to only going to meets and competitions that either didn't test, or that allowed people who tested positive to be retested at a later date. He LIED! I wasn't surprised that he was using roids. There is no way that you get THAT BIG naturally, I was surprised he admitted it, and was still employed at that college. The urge to 'supplement' is massive in weightlifting, and there are thousands, hundreds of thousands of supplements available both over and under the counter. I knew that roids were available at that college too. And now the wife of a friend of mine is caught on the 'exercise train'. She looks like a scifi movie freak now. It's really easy to get caught up in the self glamorization of the 'sport'. *shrug* Free associating here, but *sigh*

Enjoy your Thursday... Cheers.
 
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Ok...ok.... Hear me out. This was my game day ‘tailgate‘ food Safe-from-home-style😁.

This is surprisingly not a lot of calories. It’s 2 ounces of smoked hickory ham, one fried egg, a 5 ounce Kobe beef burger on a piece of French brioche bread, drizzled with the homemade chipotle chutney sauce, and the total amount of calories for this little pleasantry was approximately 500c. (And I only used slight amount of pink Himalayan sea salt and that was it.) You can still enjoy life‘s little pleasures without over indulging on garbage when you cook from home v.s. ordering out.

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Ok...ok.... Hear me out. This was my game day ‘tailgate‘ food Safe-from-home-style😁.

This is surprisingly not a lot of calories. It’s 2 ounces of smoked hickory ham, one fried egg, a 5 ounce Kobe beef burger on a piece of French brioche bread, drizzled with the homemade chipotle chutney sauce, and the total amount of calories for this little pleasantry was approximately 500c. (And I only used slight amount of pink Himalayan sea salt and that was it.) You can still enjoy life‘s little pleasures without over indulging on garbage when you cook from home v.s. ordering out.

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Not my thing, but...

I found some images I took when I was at my best weight. 182 pounds, BMI (according to my scale) 5.3. I was ripped. I remember waking up to a panic moment one night. My heart rate was in the upper 40's. Apparently my brain didn't hear the beat, and thought it should turn on the lights and wake the rest of the stuff to a potential problem. I wonder if I can get back there. I was a fine running machine. Burning fuel very efficiently. I felt AWESOME!!! UNBEATABLE!!! AMAZING!!!

And it wasn't all that long ago. Better knees, and better feet. *sigh*
 
I don’t recall this being discussed so If it has, i apologize. My new insurance has this agreement with Active and Fit Direct. In addition to a lot of workout and health-focused videos, they have a gym membership program which I think is pretty awesome.

It’s a $25 sign-up fee (which was waived on promotion when I signed up) and it’s $25/month (they collected 2 months up front. But it gets me a membership at almost any (every) major gym chain in the US. With the one payment, I can go to LA Fitness to swim and take their classes, but I also have another membership with a 24/7 gym because LAF closes at 8 during the week. And possibly the best part is that I’m not under contract with any one gym, so no worrying about some of the crappy customer retention practices.

Just thought I’d share, in case anyone is looking for a gym.
 
I don’t recall this being discussed so If it has, i apologize. My new insurance has this agreement with Active and Fit Direct. In addition to a lot of workout and health-focused videos, they have a gym membership program which I think is pretty awesome.

It’s a $25 sign-up fee (which was waived on promotion when I signed up) and it’s $25/month (they collected 2 months up front. But it gets me a membership at almost any (every) major gym chain in the US. With the one payment, I can go to LA Fitness to swim and take their classes, but I also have another membership with a 24/7 gym because LAF closes at 8 during the week. And possibly the best part is that I’m not under contract with any one gym, so no worrying about some of the crappy customer retention practices.

Just thought I’d share, in case anyone is looking for a gym.

I‘ve heard really good things about LA Fitness, I don’t have them in my state. There’s another member of a thread that I participate in the ‘Apple Watch activity thread‘ and he uses LA fitness and has had excellent experiences with them. In some locations, they have unique set ups with the weight training downstairs and the cardio is upstairs, so it kind of segregates the different fitness equipment located in the gym For those who maybe don’t want to be surrounded by weightlifters as an example.
 
I don’t recall this being discussed so If it has, i apologize. My new insurance has this agreement with Active and Fit Direct. In addition to a lot of workout and health-focused videos, they have a gym membership program which I think is pretty awesome.

It’s a $25 sign-up fee (which was waived on promotion when I signed up) and it’s $25/month (they collected 2 months up front. But it gets me a membership at almost any (every) major gym chain in the US. With the one payment, I can go to LA Fitness to swim and take their classes, but I also have another membership with a 24/7 gym because LAF closes at 8 during the week. And possibly the best part is that I’m not under contract with any one gym, so no worrying about some of the crappy customer retention practices.

Just thought I’d share, in case anyone is looking for a gym.

Your basic gym organization depends on people paying for a membership, and not showing up. I was a member of a gym in college, and became somewhat friends with the owner. I had no idea who he was, and we were chatting about the gym, and what rocked and what sucked. I commented that they needed more effective management of machines and the saunas during busy times, towards the beginning of the year. He laughed and said that he depended on those people. That they signup for memberships, show up for a few months, and then stop coming, but many still pay for their memberships. Then he said he was the owner. He was a cool guy. They did change a number of things, and eventually moved to a larger building. After I transferred to uni, I had a 'free' intro to the gym company that had the gold panels on the outside of their buildings. I can't remember the name, but they went out of business years ago. The 'freebie' was an incredible experience. The people that I interacted with at that gym location were horrible. Haughty, egotistical, down right rude to me several times. Their membership was gradually decreasing, and the university started their own memberships for students. Post uni, I moved to a town with two gyms. One catered to the 'lycra princesses', and the other to the 'marvels of modern pharmacology', and BOTH ended up dying. They were eventually replaced, but it's been funny, watching the industry in my current location. Most 'gyms' here have insane membership costs, Most are at $600 a year, $50 a month. YIKES! One place has almost no equipment, and yet requires a $600 membership, and an 'initiation' fee too! They sure are cashing in on people that don't show up. One local gym started having spin classes. The instructors were horrific, and they started using a 'flame thrower' during the classes. Yeah, I sure want to be breathing that crap while I'm exercising at a high level.

If you aren't going to go to a gym, why pay for it, but they depend on people paying and not going. It's a weird business...
 
I‘ve heard really good things about LA Fitness, I don’t have them in my state. There’s another member of a thread that I participate in the ‘Apple Watch activity thread‘ and he uses LA fitness and has had excellent experiences with them. In some locations, they have unique set ups with the weight training downstairs and the cardio is upstairs, so it kind of segregates the different fitness equipment located in the gym For those who maybe don’t want to be surrounded by weightlifters as an example.

Yeah, a few of their locations are set up that way. The new one they just built by my house is a smaller footprint, but they have a pool, which is what I’m mainly interested in. The facilities are usually fine, but it can be difficult to cancel. With this program, I just can stop going and it doesn’t matter because I’m not paying them directly.

@PinkyMaGodess I think that’s a problem with a lot of people, even pre-Covid. Most (nearly all) New year’s resolutions don’t stick and gyms know it. Reduce the sign up fee and increase the monthly amount and people will pay for years for something they don’t use. I can’t necessarily fault the gyms for doing it.
 
Yeah, a few of their locations are set up that way. The new one they just built by my house is a smaller footprint, but they have a pool, which is what I’m mainly interested in. The facilities are usually fine, but it can be difficult to cancel. With this program, I just can stop going and it doesn’t matter because I’m not paying them directly.

@PinkyMaGodess I think that’s a problem with a lot of people, even pre-Covid. Most (nearly all) New year’s resolutions don’t stick and gyms know it. Reduce the sign up fee and increase the monthly amount and people will pay for years for something they don’t use. I can’t necessarily fault the gyms for doing it.

I have an app that won't give me a new password, yet won't stop charging me too. I'll have to report them. It's so damn frustrating. I get that you need my money more than I do, but good grief...
 
Yeah, a few of their locations are set up that way. The new one they just built by my house is a smaller footprint, but they have a pool, which is what I’m mainly interested in. The facilities are usually fine, but it can be difficult to cancel. With this program, I just can stop going and it doesn’t matter because I’m not paying them directly

So one unique thing due to C/19, is most gyms require you to come in person to cancel, which you couldn’t do over the phone. Now, gyms want to eliminate foot traffic, you can (With select gyms) cancel anytime online without any fees associated and they pro-rate your account. The gym I attended started implementing this when the pandemic started. And I think gyms have had to change their policies on this, being that so many people aren’t comfortable ‘In-doors’, so it forced their hand naturally to make the changes that there’s no contractual date that you have to cancel.

Also, if anybody was willing to start a new gym, I would definitely check with their cancellation policy prior with fee’s/penalties, being it should be made easy enough where they can be canceled/suspended given the uncertainty of everybody’s region is different with the pandemic.
 
I was discouraged today when I learned that the YMCA has removed it’s mask requirement from the weight/exercise room. You are supposed to wear a mask in common areas, but don’t have to when exercising. Even if I continue to wear a mask, I’m not sure being in a room with huffing and puffing people is a good place for me to be. This is unfortunate because weights, even if they are relatively light weights, 30-100 lb (the higher number for core exercises) has become an important facet of my workout routine. :oops:
 
It's hard to do any form of exercise in a (proper) mask. The amount of people who don't wipe down equipment after use put me off busy gyms even pre-covid.
 
I was discouraged today when I learned that the YMCA has removed it’s mask requirement from the weight/exercise room. You are supposed to wear a mask in common areas, but don’t have to when exercising. Even if I continue to wear a mask, I’m not sure being in a room with huffing and puffing people is a good place for me to be. This is unfortunate because weights, even if they are relatively light weights, 30-100 lb (the higher number for core exercises) has become an important facet of my workout routine. :oops:

For some reason, I don’t picture you picking up 100 pound weight Huntn.😁 (I’m just razzing you.)

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On a serious note, (and I don’t want to involve PRSI here),I’ve been wanting to make a come back with my bodybuilding routine desperately. The at ‘home working out‘ routine just is not fulfilling what I used to do five days a week for 18 straight months. I was literally just talking yesterday to a colleague that maybe I could find another gym that’s 24 hours, possibly go like at 3AM (I’m The perfect candidate for that time, as I’m a ‘night owl’ anyways) when there’s no one around.

The only reason I stopped bodybuilding was because of the pandemic since March and even when gyms reopened in June, I was totally fine doing my work out at home, but I’m to the point where I really want to pick up where I left off and go back to what I was doing. I train ‘hard and heavy’, and I put on quite a bit of mass over 18 months.

But now, we are at a 15% rise in cases in my area (Due to these college chodes), and what was interesting about the recent blog that I was listening to, Is when you’re exerting More energy when you’re working out, you’re expelling air from your mouth further out than you normally would if you were breathing regularly (I believe the protection was something around 12 ft). Thus, which is also probably contribution to the rise in cases from Gym-go-ers.

Anyways, mind over matter and safety first. And it just isn’t safe I think being in a gym right now, even though I think physical exercise is very important, I will have to wait it out a little bit longer, but I will make a come back, that much I can guarantee myself. I love everything about bodybuilding and the benefits. But I will be back!
 
For some reason, I don’t picture you picking up 100 pound weight Huntn.😁 (I’m just razzing you.)

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On a serious note, (and I don’t want to involve PRSI here),I’ve been wanting to make a come back with my bodybuilding routine desperately. The at ‘home working out‘ routine just is not fulfilling what I used to do five days a week for 18 straight months. I was literally just talking yesterday to a colleague that maybe I could find another gym that’s 24 hours, possibly go like at 3AM (I’m The perfect candidate for that time, as I’m a ‘night owl’ anyways) when there’s no one around.

The only reason I stopped bodybuilding was because of the pandemic since March and even when gyms reopened in June, I was totally fine doing my work out at home, but I’m to the point where I really want to pick up where I left off and go back to what I was doing. I train ‘hard and heavy’, and I put on quite a bit of mass over 18 months.

But now, we are at a 15% rise in cases in my area (Due to these college chodes), and what was interesting about the recent blog that I was listening to, Is when you’re exerting More energy when you’re working out, you’re expelling air from your mouth further out than you normally would if you were breathing regularly. Thus, which is also probably contribution to the rise in cases from Gym-go-ers.

Anyways, mind over matter and safety first. And it just isn’t safe I think being in a gym right now, even though I think physical exercise is very important, I will have to wait it out a little bit longer, but I will make a come back, that much I can guarantee myself. I love everything about bodybuilding and the benefits that you gave me. But I will be back!
I qualified that (100 lb) by saying core exercises which are on a machine, core twist, back extension and crunches, a 100 lbs baby... :)

You are exactly right about home exercise not being as satisfying as in a gym.
 
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