Here's What a Headphone Jack to Lightning Adapter Looks Like

[Harloh]

This is Apple trying to be trendy. I understand the music quality will be better, but there are some customers who don't want to fork over extra money for an adapter and or wireless headphones. The largest problem with the iphone is the battery, why don't they stop trying to get it like a super model (skinny AF) and try to make the battery larger so people can use the phone for what its intended use NOT aesthetic appeal. I do not see the harm in leaving the jack in the phone, let the customer choose what they want versus apple making the decision for everyone.

 

[lordofthereef]

It's ironic that I read this in the front page today immediately after coming across an article by the verge explaining why this is bad for consumers. I'll admit the article is a bit more hostile, or possibly passionate, than it needs to be to get the point across, though I don't think there was a single bad point made here.

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea.../iphone-no-headphone-jack-user-hostile-stupid

 

[BeefCake 15]

After y'all are done crying over Apple's decision, don't forget to save your place in line for the next iPhone...

 

[talkybear]

Article Link: Here's What a Headphone Jack to Lightning Adapter Looks Like

It funny how so many people complain about the progression of technology. It's a wireless world and if you think one of the main the leaders in the industry is not going to be at the forefront of it you are crazy. And omitted the headphone jack will also help in waterproofing the phone.

So you think Apple will include a wireless headset for free? Highly doubt it. Also Apple is not the leader of the wireless world. Just think about wireless charging.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

Removing the jack would mean either a secondary speaker or microphone added in its place. It would be useless space without that swapped out functionality.

 

[Designx]

I actually wish Apple would take the lightening port and turn it into the 3.5mm jack - it's probably one of the most durable connectors ever invented outside of bad and cheap wiring to the jack itself.

 

[lordofthereef]

Said some guy on a forum.

If you're talking about this particular adapter then I wholeheartedly agree.

I mean, the video asks what people think about getting rid of the adapter (at the very end). In sure we are going to see a lot of unsubstantiated opinions here particularly considering an opinion is literally what was asked from the viewer.

 

[thisismyusername]

Whiners. People said the same thing when Apple switched from the 30-pin connector to Lightning. Does anyone still regret that move?

Yes. They should have moved to an open standard. Besides, that isn't a direct comparison. Headphones can be used in a very wide variety of non-Apple devices where 30-pin connector accessories could only ever be used with Apple products.

I would have no problem with all this had Apple used USB-C. At least that would mean there would be a chance of wide adoption of USB-C headphones.

All this thinness crap doesn't matter when you have to carry around a pocket/bag full of adapters like you have to do with their laptops.

 

[igorsky]

let the customer choose what they want versus apple making the decision for everyone.

Apple has never done this and it is precisely what makes them successful. They're not afraid to be the leader in a controversial move that moves technology forward. They take the lead and the heat, and watch everyone follow (eventually). There are countless examples of this.

 

[shanson27]

Adapter, adapter, adapter, adapter everywhere adapter !

 

[naeS1Sean]

Let me be clear that I support removal of the jack. However, I do not support how Apple is doing it because they are doing it in the typical Apple way which is almost always completely ridicules. (it's a feature, not giving you options, not supplying you with a adaptor, acting like it's innovation and they're groundbreaking and awesome, etc etc etc.)

 

[ksnell]

I'm not too keen on stuffing bluetooth radios into my ear canal plus it ends up being yet another thing to charge.

Wireless charging needs to get here in a hurry.

Is bluetooth that close to your ear bad for you? Can't be any worse than cell phones I would imagine (not that that means its okay!), except that you typically would listen with headphones longer than being on a call.

 

[Small White Car]

I would have no problem with all this had Apple used USB-C. At least that would mean there would be a chance of wide adoption of USB-C headphones.

Yes. THIS

The problem is that Apple will expect us to carry different headphones for every company we buy products from.

And yet people like Gruber are just responding to the idea of removing the analog jack.

Utter BS strawman trash. None of them are addressing the actual issue here but you nailed it.

 

[skinned66]

Here's what it looks like: it looks like something I don't want to carry around.

 

[alexandr]

I'll better wait for that! Lets hope for an adapter that also has room to charge at the same time.

don't hold your breath, apple never made one for the ridiculous new macbooks. besides the kind of adapter you're talking about will break in a few days if you use it on the go(in your pocket)...

 

[Crzyrio]

Or, y'know, something simple and discrete like Apple will actually do?

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You can't just plug the lightning port into a headphone jack or vice versa. You have to actually take the digital signal and convert it to an analog signal or vice versa.

 

[Harloh]

Apple has never done this and it is precisely what makes them successful. They're not afraid to be the leader in a controversial move that moves technology forward. They take the lead and the heat, and watch everyone follow (eventually). There are countless examples of this.

I understand being a trendsetter, pushing technology, but a headphone is pretty universal among all devices. The lightning cable only works for apple... This is also a 'If it's not broken, don't fix it' the battery is still an issue to a point where they even made an hunchback battery pack, yet the phone's battery seems to be a sliver of what it used to be. I'd rather have a longer battery life than a less than noticeable sound quality improvement. Just my opinion.

- There are more important / innovative things that can be done. The headphone jack is the least important.

 

[katanna]

When I bought my 2nd Gen iPod it came with a "wired remote" that had those types of buttons on them (forward, backwards, pause, volume, etc.). At first it seemed silly, then after using the iPod for a while it made a lot of sense: The iPod is in your pocket and you don't want to take it out to just change songs or change the volume, you can use the wired remote. Nowadays some headphones have these controls built-in, however many more don't, so having a wired remote isn't a bad thing.

(stock photo of the iPod Wired Remote)

 

[H2SO4]

John Gruber not bothered. Wow, that's a shocker. Is there a bigger Apple shill out there?

Yes there is, and he writes for iMore.

 

[Cougarcat]

John Gruber not bothered. Wow, that's a shocker. Is there a bigger Apple shill out there?

Jim Dalrymple. Although, lately he's let Apple have it for Apple Music because he's a big music guy.

 

[kamalds]

By this speed, the iPhone 8 will lack a display

 

[H2SO4]

While I'm not against removing the headphone, Apple should have moved the iPhone to USB-C (as those headphones would eventually be usable between different devices (new Macs or non-Apple devices). Lighting headphone are DOA except for those extremely loyal to Apple.

My god. This exactly.

 

[lordofthereef]

Wireless charging needs to get here in a hurry.

Is bluetooth that close to your ear bad for you? Can't be any worse than cell phones I would imagine (not that that means its okay!), except that you typically would listen with headphones longer than being on a call.

I don't know the answer of whether it's bad for me or not, but I can say that I do a lot more music listening on any given day or week than I do talking in the phone.

 

[tich]

So would all adapters have to be that huge if they need to include the DAC? If so, I think it might be easier to just stick with lightning headphones and get a lightning to 3.5mm adapter. Obviously the best scenario would be no adaptors...

No. You can build a DAC into something much smaller (i.e. built into the connector), but the components (and therefore conversion quality) likely won't be as good.

The way I see it is this: when you think about "the future", does that future include listening to music over wired headphones connected via an analog 3.5mm jack? To me, it absolutely doesn't.

Over the last decade or so, we've seen leaps and bounds in processor speed, graphics, video resolution, battery life...but audio quality always seems to get overlooked. We have gorgeous HD and 4K video, but Apple Music still streams at 256kbps (for now, at least. I think this will change soon).

Why is everyone so attached to the 3.5mm jack? Decent bluetooth headphones are basically a dime a dozen and untether you from wires, and far superior quality can be had using an external DAC and digital connection; so there you satisfy people who want convenience, and people who want quality. And you know it won't be long until there are wireless headphones with phenomenal DACs built right in, if there aren't already.

I'll admit that an adapter surely isn't the most elegant solution, and I acknowledge that lightning headphones are kind of dumb because you can't use them with other devices (should have gone with USB-C), but I'll happily use an adapter with my M50x's if it means I get better D to A conversion. If you haven't had the chance to listen to a great DAC and compare it to your phone's headphone jack, do yourself a favor.

Yes, it might inconvenience you for a couple of weeks, but everybody here knows that the headphone jack is going away EVENTUALLY, and if it wasn't now, then people would still be up in arms about it if it were next year or five years from now.

/rant

 

[kamalds]

Please Apple, don't remove the headphone jack!