Hermès Edition Owners Thread

[Benz63amg]

I'm definitely upgrading to a S6 from my S4 Hermes. But I haven't decided yet whether to buy a S6 Hermes or a regular S6. It'd be SS or SBSS regardless. I already have a decent collection bands, Hermes included, and TBH I don't use the Hermes faces all that much. Maybe once I'm back to in-person socializing I'll use them more. I do like them, just not sure I like them enough to pay the premium again.

WHAT!? the only reason i have the Hermes Model is for the gorgeous orange hermes watchface. i personally could care less about the hermes watchbands and sold the hermes watchbands for Craiglist (the leather band and the orange rubber one that came with the watch) and am using my series 4 SS Hermes 44mm with a Milanese loop which i absolutely love. its going to be very hard to give up on the orange Hermes watchface but im defintley not paying retail for a hermes series 6 apple watch so i'll be upgrading to a Series 6 base stainless steel model or ill just keep my Series 4 Hermes but if rumors are true the series 6 will have a brand new blood oxygen monitor which is kind of a big deal so im pretty sure im upgrading to a series 6 when it comes out. its going to be very hard to say goodbye to the orange hermes watchface as i really love it

 

[anthonymoody]

So you're all up in arms but are likely to do the same thing? LOL.

 

[CWallace]

I was not planning to replace my SB SS S4 anytime soon, but if the S6 has significant health hardware upgrades then I will probably jump and I am very tempted to ante up for a Hermès if it is still available in Space Black.

 

[Benz63amg]

So you're all up in arms but are likely to do the same thing? LOL.

What do you mean? didn't get your post..
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I was not planning to replace my SB SS S4 anytime soon, but if the S6 has significant health hardware upgrades then I will probably jump and I am very tempted to ante up for a Hermès if it is still available in Space Black.

The series 6 is going to bring huge health feature upgrades without a doubt.

 

[Dammit Cubs]

I bought an S5 Ceramic and have been combining it with Hermes bands. I enjoy the ceramic and i know i won't get much during the resell, so i'm worried that the S6 will be too good to pass up.

 

[Benz63amg]

I bought an S5 Ceramic and have been combining it with Hermes bands. I enjoy the ceramic and i know i won't get much during the resell, so i'm worried that the S6 will be too good to pass up.

if the rumors are true and the series 6 has a blood oxygen sensor then that would render all apple watches below Series 6 almost obsolete because blood oxygen is a huge deal. it will provide insight into a person's health that was previously impossible. I bet they will also improve the Heart Rate Sensor as well to a more accurate and advanced one and that together with a blood oxygen meter will be a massive upgrade.

 

[FenC]

These of you that own a Hermes AW(such as myself, series 4 SS 44mm), will you be upgrading to a series 6 Apple Watch when it comes out?
I love the Hermes watchface of my series 4 and I know the value of my series 4 Hermes will significantly drop when the series 6 comes and I don’t know if I wanna give up the Hermes watchface by selling it in order to get a standard SS non-Hermes series 6 AS when it comes out. (I bought my series 4 Hermes used so I didn’t pay retail price for it) and i doubt id be willing to pay retail for a brand new Hermes Series 6 AW.

I bought an S4 Hermes used for the bands, but I never wore it as, while I also love the Hermes faces not having them always on removed the point for me. The Hermes face looks like a classy watch, But if it isn’t on most of the time it might as well be an ugly face like Siri. I sold the Hermes a few weeks ago as I was only using it as a sleep tracker.

Before I sold it I bought an SBSS S5 to go with my SS S5, the idea being I’d decide which I would like better as a Hermes Watch and buy an S6 in that finish, selling the corresponding S5 and keeping the other S5 to alternate with, but now I’m less certain. I might even go with a ceramic S6 Edition So I have black, white and silver to choose from, especially if the S6 is a “meh” upgrade from the S5 (in which case I also may well not bother, or even look to pick up as used ceramic S5).

I bought an S5 Hermes for my wife as a birthday gift in March, and I do covet the always on Hermes face when she uses it however. That actually makes Hermes worth it in my view, as it then looks as like a classy Watch as a smart watch is going to get any time soon.
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if the rumors are true and the series 6 has a blood oxygen sensor then that would render all apple watches below Series 6 almost obsolete because blood oxygen is a huge deal. it will provide insight into a person's health that was previously impossible. I bet they will also improve the Heart Rate Sensor as well to a more accurate and advanced one and that together with a blood oxygen meter will be a massive upgrade.

I think that’s just a little bit strong - personally I’m not even all that fussed if it adds blood oxygen, and if it does it won’t be stopping using an S5 because of that I can guarantee.

Massive upgrade - maybe, if that floats an individual’s boat. Render previous watches obsolete - hardly.

 

[G.McGilli]

if the rumors are true and the series 6 has a blood oxygen sensor then that would render all apple watches below Series 6 almost obsolete because blood oxygen is a huge deal. it will provide insight into a person's health that was previously impossible. I bet they will also improve the Heart Rate Sensor as well to a more accurate and advanced one and that together with a blood oxygen meter will be a massive upgrade.

Then I'd love for them to sell an AW Lite- without all that health sensor stuff. None of that will help me receive my messages better, send emails faster, play my music better or control the camera on my iPhone. So, just paying for more stuff I would never use. Checking my HR once a week is fun for a few seconds, but yeah - I don't see any S4 or S5 beoiming obsolete anytime soon.
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I bought an S5 Ceramic and have been combining it with Hermes bands. I enjoy the ceramic and i know i won't get much during the resell, so i'm worried that the S6 will be too good to pass up.

I just bought an S5 ceramic last week - aside from the fact I just wanted it - all the talk of all the health-related additions for the next generation have just convinced me it's not what I want in a communication device and won't be upgrading anytime soon. As for reselling - I'll never resell mine - I have a few Apple devices going way back that I keep locked away after they run out of life - kind of a time capsule sort of thing (Not just Apple, but all kinds of tech going way back) and kids love seeing that stuff (me too LOL)! AW5 Ceramic will rest with them eventually ?

 

[anthonymoody]

Added health features will certainly be nice, but for my usage the far more important update will be the faster processor which is pretty much guaranteed after they left the processor unchanged from S4->S5. No way they let is stand again.

 

[Brien]

These of you that own a Hermes AW(such as myself, series 4 SS 44mm), will you be upgrading to a series 6 Apple Watch when it comes out?
I love the Hermes watchface of my series 4 and I know the value of my series 4 Hermes will significantly drop when the series 6 comes and I don’t know if I wanna give up the Hermes watchface by selling it in order to get a standard SS non-Hermes series 6 AS when it comes out. (I bought my series 4 Hermes used so I didn’t pay retail price for it) and i doubt id be willing to pay retail for a brand new Hermes Series 6 AW.

I have a S5 so will probably skip the 6 and upgrade in 2021. TBH at $1k it just doesn’t make sense to me as a yearly upgrade. Bands and face are totally worth it though!

 

[Benz63amg]

I have a S5 so will probably skip the 6 and upgrade in 2021. TBH at $1k it just doesn’t make sense to me as a yearly upgrade. Bands and face are totally worth it though!

The bands i could care less about (as i mentioned above i sold the leather hermes band that came with my AW as well as the orange sport band) and im using the Milanese Loop band which i love. The orange hermes watchface is whats totally worth every penny. I bought my Hermes series 4 44mm Stainless Steel Apple Watch on the used market so i didnt pay retail and no way i would pay retail for a Hermes Apple watch just because its an electronic device that can get outdated very quickly.

If rumors are true and the Series 6 Apple watch has blood oyxgen and other health monitoring features then quite frankly that is going to be a massive game changer and i might be forced to say goodbye to my Hermes AW and sell it to purchase a standard Stainless Steel Series 6 44mm (Or whatever mm the large Series 6 AW will be). I would really miss the Hermes watchface though because it is asbolutely gorgeous and makes using the watch so much more enjoyable and pretty to look at (im using the one with orange font and moonphase)

 

[FenC]

The bands i could care less about (as i mentioned above i sold the leather hermes band that came with my AW as well as the orange sport band) and im using the Milanese Loop band which i love. The orange hermes watchface is whats totally worth every penny. I bought my Hermes series 4 44mm Stainless Steel Apple Watch on the used market so i didnt pay retail and no way i would pay retail for a Hermes Apple watch just because its an electronic device that can get outdated very quickly.

If rumors are true and the Series 6 Apple watch has blood oyxgen and other health monitoring features then quite frankly that is going to be a massive game changer and i might be forced to say goodbye to my Hermes AW and sell it to purchase a standard Stainless Steel Series 6 44mm (Or whatever mm the large Series 6 AW will be). I would really miss the Hermes watchface though because it is asbolutely gorgeous and makes using the watch so much more enjoyable and pretty to look at (im using the one with orange font and moonphase)

Genuine question:

I’ve seen you post before about the blood oxygen sensor being really important to you, and I’m interested in why? I’d like to see it enabled, but if it becomes only an S6 thing then it will not be much of a reason at all for me to upgrade personally. Is your desire to have it health related or to increase sports training performance (in which I share some interest with you)?

In the brief Google search I just did to see if I had been missing something, I don’t think I was, but there is a widely held belief that all Apple Watches have been capable of measuring blood oxygen levels since the S0 and at least one suggestion that it’s actually the FDA which has blocked turning it on to date (cheers US FDA and Apple, on behalf of the rest of the world’s population in that case).

If it is going to be enabled in WatchOS 14, I’m hoping that Apple will take the opportunity to put the benefits of having millions of people measuring blood oxygen levels ahead of marketing the new model of Watch (if the current models truly can take the measurement), and there is a chance they will given their tendency to altruism when it matters, and also the potential publicity backlash if they hobble the feature in older hardware against the Covid-19 backdrop.

Anyway, I’d genuinely be keen to hear why it’s so important to you, because maybe it’s really important to me, or someone else also, and we don’t know it yet.

 

[jaybar]

While blood oxygen level is an important health indicator, why is it so vital to make that a key decision factor in upgrading your AW? You can go to your pharmacy or medical supply vendor and get one that goes on your finger for <$50. Lot cheaper than a new AW, even if you sold your current watch or traded it in.

There may be lots of compelling reasons to upgrade, but I don’t see blood oxygen level as being a huge reason, in itself.

 

[Benz63amg]

Genuine question:

I’ve seen you post before about the blood oxygen sensor being really important to you, and I’m interested in why? I’d like to see it enabled, but if it becomes only an S6 thing then it will not be much of a reason at all for me to upgrade personally. Is your desire to have it health related or to increase sports training performance (in which I share some interest with you)?

In the brief Google search I just did to see if I had been missing something, I don’t think I was, but there is a widely held belief that all Apple Watches have been capable of measuring blood oxygen levels since the S0 and at least one suggestion that it’s actually the FDA which has blocked turning it on to date (cheers US FDA and Apple, on behalf of the rest of the world’s population in that case).

If it is going to be enabled in WatchOS 14, I’m hoping that Apple will take the opportunity to put the benefits of having millions of people measuring blood oxygen levels ahead of marketing the new model of Watch (if the current models truly can take the measurement), and there is a chance they will given their tendency to altruism when it matters, and also the potential publicity backlash if they hobble the feature in older hardware against the Covid-19 backdrop.

Anyway, I’d genuinely be keen to hear why it’s so important to you, because maybe it’s really important to me, or someone else also, and we don’t know it yet.

A blood oxygen monitor is going to give you an entirely new array of insight regarding your health on a daily basis in addition to an improved heart rate monitor. How do you not see it as a big deal? I am aware that a blood oxygen monitor was shown(tear down) to be present in all Apple Watches since gen 0 but I doubt apple will enable it. They will market it as a new feature of the new Series 6 to make it a selling point IMO.

the blood oxygen monitor in addition with an improved more accurate heart rate sensor will take health and fitness monitoring to a whole new level on the Apple Watch. Because let’s face it, the watch can’t tell everything about your health just by knowing your heart rate, if it’s knows blood oxygen in addition to heart rate then that greatly broadens the amount of data it knows about what’s happening in the body. I have a feeling sleep tracking will also be a feature of the Series 6. That’s something that’s unavailable on current Apple watches.

 

[FenC]

A blood oxygen monitor is going to give you an entirely new array of insight regarding your health on a daily basis in addition to an improved heart rate monitor. How do you not see it as a big deal? I am aware that a blood oxygen monitor was shown(tear down) to be present in all Apple Watches since gen 0 but I doubt apple will enable it. They will market it as a new feature of the new Series 6 to make it a selling point IMO.

the blood oxygen monitor in addition with an improved more accurate heart rate sensor will take health and fitness monitoring to a whole new level on the Apple Watch. Because let’s face it, the watch can’t tell everything about your health just by knowing your heart rate, if it’s knows blood oxygen in addition to heart rate then that greatly broadens the amount of data it knows about what’s happening in the body. I have a feeling sleep tracking will also be a feature of the Series 6. That’s something that’s unavailable on current Apple watches.

Thanks for the reply.

In answer to your question: I’ve come this far without seeing the need for blood oxygen monitoring, and it doesn’t bother me, no I don’t see it as a big deal. If I cared that much about it I’d either have bought one of the other smart watches available with it, or I would have bought a cheap dedicated measuring device as was mentioned by someone above, and like I did for blood pressure monitoring. Do you have one of those and use it? It’s also a really useful insight regarding your health if used on a regular basis.

Personally I don‘t think the Apple Watch is a particularly good device for fitness tracking, and that leads me to be sceptical on health tracking also. Why?

Turn on an “other” workout on your Watch and carry on your normal activity, and watch your move and exercise rings shoot up. How can it be any good if it credits you way more active energy doing exactly the same activity just because you tell it you‘re doing a workout than when you’re not? Same activity burns the same active energy regardless of a setting on the Watch, and if the Watch sees it differently then it’s inaccurate in one (or both) of the scenarios.

Don’t get me wrong; I love my Apple Watches, but I treat the health data I get from them as a some interesting background information I wouldn’t otherwise have, not gospel I can’t live without - or have to live by.

I realise this is going to sound like a contradiction, but I use AutoSleep for sleep tracking and I check that daily. It looks fairly accurate to me after calibrating it, and recently it’s telling me I seem to be more stressed than usual which has me looking at what I can do about that. I’m interested to see if native sleep tracking is significantly better. I doubt it will improve enough to make me want to upgrade to the S6.

As I said in my previous post, if Apple chooses to enable blood oxygen measurement only on the S6 and the earlier series are capable of measuring it then that could prove a bad decision from a PR perspective, especially when it can be seen as a metric to help spot Covid-19 infection.

Anyway, interesting discussion, if not really on topic for this thread, so sorry everyone else for that.

 

[Benz63amg]

Thanks for the reply.

In answer to your question: I’ve come this far without seeing the need for blood oxygen monitoring, and it doesn’t bother me, no I don’t see it as a big deal. If I cared that much about it I’d either have bought one of the other smart watches available with it, or I would have bought a cheap dedicated measuring device as was mentioned by someone above, and like I did for blood pressure monitoring. Do you have one of those and use it? It’s also a really useful insight regarding your health if used on a regular basis.

Personally I don‘t think the Apple Watch is a particularly good device for fitness tracking, and that leads me to be sceptical on health tracking also. Why?

Turn on an “other” workout on your Watch and carry on your normal activity, and watch your move and exercise rings shoot up. How can it be any good if it credits you way more active energy doing exactly the same activity just because you tell it you‘re doing a workout than when you’re not? Same activity burns the same active energy regardless of a setting on the Watch, and if the Watch sees it differently then it’s inaccurate in one (or both) of the scenarios.

Don’t get me wrong; I love my Apple Watches, but I treat the health data I get from them as a some interesting background information I wouldn’t otherwise have, not gospel I can’t live without - or have to live by.

I realise this is going to sound like a contradiction, but I use AutoSleep for sleep tracking and I check that daily. It looks fairly accurate to me after calibrating it, and recently it’s telling me I seem to be more stressed than usual which has me looking at what I can do about that. I’m interested to see if native sleep tracking is significantly better. I doubt it will improve enough to make me want to upgrade to the S6.

As I said in my previous post, if Apple chooses to enable blood oxygen measurement only on the S6 and the earlier series are capable of measuring it then that could prove a bad decision from a PR perspective, especially when it can be seen as a metric to help spot Covid-19 infection.

Anyway, interesting discussion, if not really on topic for this thread, so sorry everyone else for that.

You really lost me at “Personally I don‘t think the Apple Watch is a particularly good device for fitness tracking, and that leads me to be sceptical on health tracking also. Why?”

The Apple Watch is the best daily fitness tracking device on the market among many other things. I’m not going to write a novel here trying to explain to you why because you should know that by now if you’ve owned an Apple Watch long enough. Starting up an “Other” workout has nothing to do with how the watch tracks your activity on a daily basis without you initiating a workout.

One point I’d like to make, I didn’t know I needed to have my heart rate checked daily nor have I ever purchased a dedicated heart rate monitor to check my heart rate before the Apple Watch came out, now that my Apple Watch checks it for me and on a daily basis I find that information extremely valuable, the same will happen with blood oxygen when it ships with the Series 6. That will be a major selling point of the S6 and I doubt prior models will get it.

You can also bet that Apple’s take on Sleep Tracking will far surpass any previous adaptation of sleep tracking on the market. There’s a reason why sleep tracking wasn’t shipped by Apple as a feature on the Apple Watch as of 2020 while all the other major brands of wearable smart watches had their own gimmicky take on the matter. Apple does things right and if it means waiting for several years for a polished and refined feature to be ready then that’s how it would be.

 

[FenC]

I agree that the Apple Watch is the best smart watch on the market, because it looks reasonably elegant so it can be worn pretty much in any situation without looking like a plastic clock taped to a wrist, it’s tightly integrated with the best cellphone operating system on the market and it has a wide range of apps that give it a spectrum of usefulness. It’s also good at providing some background health / activity data that is useful in helping people get fitter than they were. Compared with a Fitbit it is a no-brainer, but it’s an everyday watch that is an extension of a cellphone.

I love my Apple Watch, but compared with a proper fitness device it’s way behind. Have to looked at what Garmin as one example is doing? Training plans, integrations with specialist sensors like power meters and foot pods, many more metrics both measured and extrapolated, recovery times, real time performance condition indication, customisable screens built from dozens of available data elements, specialist metrics for all kinds of sports - all this on products already on the market when I last paid much attention in 2016 that the Apple Watch is still nowhere near. The battery life of the AW in itself makes it laughable for serious training work.

That’s all OK, because that’s not what Apple is making the Watch for, but don’t try to pretend it’s the best on the market at fitness tracking.

I agree Apple usually doesn’t release hardware until it’s full featured and working, but there‘s a whole industry built on making alternatives to Apple‘s software for Apple devices, either because they are more specialist or they just are better. Have you looked at third party heart monitoring apps? I use two and both run rings around what Apple’s Health app can do.

We’ll see what sleep tracking brings pretty soon, but I can tell you now it will be fairly simplistic, consumer focused and light on features. Doubtless it will look slick, and it will make some basic stats about sleep very accessible, even “gamified” - very much like the three rings do for activity - but I have no doubt the deep analytics will be left to third parties just like it is for activity, heart rate etc. Apps like I already use in other words.

 

[Benz63amg]

I agree that the Apple Watch is the best smart watch on the market, because it looks reasonably elegant so it can be worn pretty much in any situation without looking like a plastic clock taped to a wrist, it’s tightly integrated with the best cellphone operating system on the market and it has a wide range of apps that give it a spectrum of usefulness. It’s also good at providing some background health / activity data that is useful in helping people get fitter than they were. Compared with a Fitbit it is a no-brainer, but it’s an everyday watch that is an extension of a cellphone.

I love my Apple Watch, but compared with a proper fitness device it’s way behind. Have to looked at what Garmin as one example is doing? Training plans, integrations with specialist sensors like power meters and foot pods, many more metrics both measured and extrapolated, recovery times, real time performance condition indication, customisable screens built from dozens of available data elements, specialist metrics for all kinds of sports - all this on products already on the market when I last paid much attention in 2016 that the Apple Watch is still nowhere near. The battery life of the AW in itself makes it laughable for serious training work.

That’s all OK, because that’s not what Apple is making the Watch for, but don’t try to pretend it’s the best on the market at fitness tracking.

I agree Apple usually doesn’t release hardware until it’s full featured and working, but there‘s a whole industry built on making alternatives to Apple‘s software for Apple devices, either because they are more specialist or they just are better. Have you looked at third party heart monitoring apps? I use two and both run rings around what Apple’s Health app can do.

We’ll see what sleep tracking brings pretty soon, but I can tell you now it will be fairly simplistic, consumer focused and light on features. Doubtless it will look slick, and it will make some basic stats about sleep very accessible, even “gamified” - very much like the three rings do for activity - but I have no doubt the deep analytics will be left to third parties just like it is for activity, heart rate etc. Apps like I already use in other words.

Which third party apps do you use in specific?

 

[The Game 161]

Tried to see if they had the plain black Hermes band but not available on the apple site or the Hermes site. £339 is a lot for a band but thought I could add it to my collection but guess not lol

 

[FenC]

Which third party apps do you use in specific?

AutoSleep, Heart Analyzer and HeartWatch.

 

[Benz63amg]

Tried to see if they had the plain black Hermes band but not available on the apple site or the Hermes site. £339 is a lot for a band but thought I could add it to my collection but guess not lol

The black Hermes leather band?

 

[anthonymoody]

The AW is definitely not the best fitness tracker available and it's not even close. It's definitely the best overall smart watch available however. Some weird fanboi stuff going on in this thread.

As for pulse ox, I think in the world of Covid it's a good data point to monitor (presumably you all have read about the unusual presentation wherein a person feels and breathes normally, but in fact has a plummeting pulse ox and doesn't know it; by the time they have trouble breathing their pulse ox is down to 50-60% and they're basically circling the drain at that point. Usually you'd feel some trouble breathing once it dips into the 80s, but covid masks that in some instances). All that said, it's definitely not a reason by itself to upgrade IMO. Not a game changer in terms of overall health and fitness monitoring. Combined with a faster processor? I'll upgrade from 4 to 6. May not get another Hermes though.

 

[The Game 161]

The black Hermes leather band?

Yeah this one

 

[Benz63amg]

Yeah this one

I had that one, the creases that formed at the bent point made me sell it and go back to my trusty Milanese loop, great quality leather but not durable

 

[athousandbands]

I’ve always hesitated to post my metastasizing Hermès collection because you all seem to have the pics covered and I only own a simple 44mm SS watch case and pair half my pieces with a 40mm non-stainless model. But I’m pretty sure this one hasn’t been shared (the length of this thread is another daunting aspect)...not an Ed Hardy guy at all but I’ve never met a $200-off Hermès I didn’t buy.

(The stand is the Belkin valet from before they added the iPhone portion, was like $30 from B&H, yes I cleaned it, prob need to bleach pen it.)

?38mm Equateur Tatouage (not sold by Apple I believe, not sure I would have gotten this if not for a white watch)

Yes, that’s a tiger (?rawr)...if me from the era when Christian Audigier was all the rage (and the butt of jokes) saw me now...

I swear the watch face matches better irl, but I spent way too much time on it as is, a Photoshop paladin friend is going to help me get the scale and stitches lined up perfectly, although he doesn’t know it yet.