And yet it was the most sold iPhone in last quarter of 2018 and first quarter of 2019, equalling 60% of iPhone sales in US alone in this period.Considering all the complaints about how “bulky” the XR is, I’d have to disagree.
And yet it was the most sold iPhone in last quarter of 2018 and first quarter of 2019, equalling 60% of iPhone sales in US alone in this period.Considering all the complaints about how “bulky” the XR is, I’d have to disagree.
I would love to see your data backing up that statement.
A marketing gimmick that few, if any, people want. Built in obsolescence too. Breaks easier = sell more new ones; Sell lots of cases and screen protectors; and damage insurance policies; and expensive screen repairs = $$$.
Everybody who uses a case and a screen protector is deliberately making it heavier and bulkier so as to make it more practical. What percentage do that? There's your answer then.
I'm just curious about your point of view on this. If, as you say, thinner and lighter is just a marketing gimmick that only few want, why do we constantly see posts from folks saying they love their Pros for their thin and lightweight characteristics? On top of that, people criticize the base iPad as being too bulky and heavy. I see these comments here all the time.
Everybody who uses a case and a screen protector is deliberately making it heavier and bulkier so as to make it more practical. What percentage do that? There's your answer then.
"Sorry but there are a LOT of reasons people buy cases and not all of them are protection. "
Me, I ONLY buy a case and a screen protector for protection since they are making tablets and phones out of slippery beer can grade aluminum and glass, and Gorilla Glass screens scratch too. I would think that applies to most people. We ought to set up a poll here and ask.
Me, I ONLY buy a case and a screen protector for protection since they are making tablets and phones out of slippery beer can grade aluminum and glass, and Gorilla Glass screens scratch too. I would think that applies to most people. We ought to set up a poll here and ask.
As an adult that knows not to drop electronic devices I'd rather them the way they are. I don't want a heavier iPad because you're a butterfingers.I suspect that bottom line may be more important. They could be a bit heavier or bulkier. So what? A lot of customers without cracked screens or warped casings from a short fall.
Why can’t Apple put that creativity into tougher iPads? We are human. We drop things. Cases help, but there will be those times they are out of the case. Expensive iPads should be built to survive a fall from table height without a cracked screen or warped outcome. It should not have to be noticeably heavier or bulkier. Come on Apple. With all your ingenuity it can’t and shouldn’t be that difficult.
I don't thik apple is using beer can grade aluminumsuper cheap slippery beer can grade alumium.
I'd love to see Apple embrace Magnesium for added strengthor the prices they charge carbon fiber or magnesium should be used,
Is the screen more susceptible to breaking? My 10.5 seems sturdy? I have a screen protector on my phone but not my iPad (knocks on wood).as well as a factory supplied screen protector.
I think we, as somewhat spoiled consumers, are asking a bit too much. As stated earlier, physics and the laws of materials can only go so far. Yet we want our electronics to be virtually without noticeable weight and as thin as a sheet of paper. Then we complain when Apple satisfies our wants but they don't hold up to a drop on the ground.
I myself have always preferred the heft and solidity of the regular iPad. Yes, a little heavier and yes a little thicker, but much less fear of damage. Also no bending ever. And it does everything beautifully.
Depends how you make the device thin. Samsung made the S5e thinner and lighter than the iPad Pro by using an OLED screen (which doesn't need a backlight layer).
Apple didn't want to pay for OLED so just made the protective glass layer on top of their LCD thinner. Less durable and still thicker, but cheaper (for Apple).
I'm just curious about your point of view on this. If, as you say, thinner and lighter is just a marketing gimmick that only few want,
Do those people then use their slippery tablets without a case or screen protector? Some do but I never would, and once you put on those things you are making it heavier and bulkier anyway. What I'm saying is I'd like them to come from the factory a little heavier and bulkier but much more sturdy and damage resistant. To me that seems like common sense. To the marketing guys it seems like a loss of revenue.
They meant "what most people on this forum want". Apple, of course, knows that thin and light sells, otherwise they wouldn't pursue thinner and lighter devices for years. After all, profit is their main goal, if only "a few" customers wanted that, Apple would make thicker devices. If anything, they would be cheaper to design and make.
Don't get fooled, thin devices sell better. Personally, I want the biggest screen on the smallest device possible.
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I'm not disagreeing with the "make it sturdy and resistant" part, but obviously people outside this forum want thinner devices - even if they say they don't. Otherwise, Apple wouldn't try to make them as thin and light as possible. I mean - just look at it this way: size and weight was the number one complaint for the 12.9" iPad. People were literally "I like the big screen, but the device is just too big and heavy". Apple is doing what people want - trying to make it as small as possible. 25% smaller volume and lighter but with the same screen? That's what people asked for. Now, that doesn't mean the iPad should be fragile as a result - but, as I keep saying - I don't think it is. I've been treating mine normally for the past 6-7 months and it's the same as the first day I got it.
I liked my Air 2 and still have the 10.5 Pro but wanted the larger screen of the 12.9 but I didn't buy it until Apple made the overall footprint smaller and the device lighter - earlier incarnations were just too large and heavy for my taste. And my 2018 12.9 has held up nicely.
I bought a folio case for my iPad, but it’s pretty much ONLY used when it’s in my bag. Otherwise I LOVE that it’s thin and light.
Why can’t Apple put that creativity into tougher iPads? We are human. We drop things. Cases help, but there will be those times they are out of the case. Expensive iPads should be built to survive a fall from table height without a cracked screen or warped outcome. It should not have to be noticeably heavier or bulkier..
They meant "what most people on this forum want". Apple, of course, knows that thin and light sells, otherwise they wouldn't pursue thinner and lighter devices for years. After all, profit is their main goal, if only "a few" customers wanted that, Apple would make thicker devices. If anything, they would be cheaper to design and make.
Don't get fooled, thin devices sell better. Personally, I want the biggest screen on the smallest device possible.
Ok, then you MUST believe most people want soldered in components on mac’s, right? That’s why they do it, right? Non changeable batteries in everything?
They do not have to be soldered in to be thin, connectors can be thinner than the components and very small. The size of sa solder joint.
Don’t be fooled, it’s about money but in a way different than how you are thinking.
One would have to be blind to not see it’s all about up selling based on very low storage/memory entry level and non upgradability. Yes, profit is their main goal.
A business is concerned about making a profit??? Stop the press!!! This expose should be on the front page of the Times!
To your point though, it IS about profitability - if people cared enough they would stop buying and Apple would change. People still buy Macs so really they only care enough to complain on message boards.
I was replying to someone else that said apple made stuff thin because people wanted it that way. It’s about profit, it always is and some like to believe apple is different.
Insinuating I think that’s something new just means you do not understand the conversation. I am retired and damn well knows how all companies work (even apple) or otherwise they would not be in business.
You are half right about the last paragraph. We just got 1tb 12.9 ipad pro’s to last hopefully many years and I still have my last mac......a 2012. No more. Everyone else in the household have gone to windows.